clickcash/ifriends - how to deal with them - GoFuckYourself.com

mike503 · 05-31-2002, 10:01 PM

ok, so i actually got my traffic to "convert" with them - it's shitty traffic off my mainstream rating sites. however, it's making more money than i was before (note: $0) and i'm hoping that i am one of the lucky ones they pay.

i mean, they had to have paid SOME of their webmasters over the years, right?

has anyone in here received and successfully cashed a check from them? i'll be fucking pissed if they can't deliver. i don't care if they shave, i'm still making "decent money" as far as i'm concerned from something i wasn't planning on making money from.

if they can't deliver money to me, is there some legal action or some way i can get money from them? how could they continue to do business if so many people have been fucked by them?

btw, the site i'm promoting it from is http://ratemythong.com and the related sites. does anyone have an idea of a good sponsor to change to (i want to use text links only..) for this kind of traffic? ifriends seems to be perfect for it, but if i don't get paid it's a waste of my time and i need to switch so i can make non-funny money.

thanks.

m0rph3us · 05-31-2002, 10:04 PM

i heard bad things about ifriends but you can always try some dating program like adultfriendfinder or something. that will do wonders on your types of sites.

sinmaster · 05-31-2002, 10:05 PM

Great alternative to ifriends is in my signature.
Check it out.

bdld · 05-31-2002, 10:06 PM

yes you'll get paid, every monday

DrewKole · 05-31-2002, 10:06 PM

I've cashed my checks from them...

I think the whole issue arrives from the fact they switched banks, and they have the worst customer support in the whole industry.

So... for about a month or so, people were bouncing their ifriends checks all over the place...

Right now? I don't trust them at all, and I have already switched all of my links away from them... Whether it's a server related issue or a honesty issue, I don't know...

That being said, I know several people who cash $2k+ checks from them every week.

I really wouldn't be worried about YOUR checks bouncing, I think you will get paid... I always got my checks fedex'd for free, and they always showed up.

So if thats the only reason you are worried about ifriends, I really wouldn't be too much... because if your checks don't show up, or bounce you're bound to have a bunch of company here, bitching and screaming.

-Drew

mike503 · 05-31-2002, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
i heard bad things about ifriends but you can always try some dating program like adultfriendfinder or something. that will do wonders on your types of sites.

too bad i hate AFF. i joined friendfinder and i even paid for that piece of shit, late-1990's coding job. even though i paid, they never paid attention to my account so i could never contact anyone, *and* upon sending emails to customer support i wound up with vanilla, automated email-type answers that had nothing to do with my problem.

but hey, if these surfers are gonna leech my bandwidth, fuck them and i'll send them there if i can't make dough with ifriends. has anyone heard anything good/bad about adultfriendfinder?

Va2k · 05-31-2002, 10:07 PM

I have been paid everyweek last check was 4 days late but I still got it never had one bounce

hyper · 05-31-2002, 10:16 PM

from what i gather.. and this is not fact just observation.
foreign webmasters have more problems than u.s based webmasters

mike503 · 05-31-2002, 10:18 PM

first off THANK YOU GUYS for posting this. the only other posts i saw were always "they don't pay" "they bounce their checks" and "they shave" - so this makes me feel so much better. i'm going to be relying on their checks to pay my server bill the next couple of months until i get some other things off the ground.

so thank you and politely go fuck yourselves

ezwink · 05-31-2002, 10:43 PM

well, i got one check from them on time. Now, have been waiting for two checks for a month. NOT ONE response to emails. So, if you are depending on them...go somewhere else. From what I gather, if you need customer support...you are fucked.

TDF · 05-31-2002, 10:45 PM

i recently had a bad experience with them. My ifriends check bounced....so from now on FUCK IFRIENDS!!

meRx · 05-31-2002, 10:48 PM

Iv'e been using clickcash for 2 years and i convert great with them. HOWEVER, i have had my share of bounced checks from them. This problem has NOT happend again since they have changed banks. Also , i get paid every two weeks ontime everytime. I guess it might just be my experience , but in my eyes they're kool.
To each his own

Tipsy · 06-01-2002, 01:48 AM

I have two very big gripes that have stopped me using them.

The first and most important really is that their hit/sales tracking is totally fucked. SOME accounts will work great others will show only a very small % of sales. On both though conversions (for myself and many I know) are now amongst the worst around. The guy(s) who wrote the VB code for their tracking needs to be hung up from the balls with a bit of babred wire and jiggled around until he admits he's written crap software and doesn't really know how to program.

Second point is I also got 2 cheques bounce. Only a few hundred bucks but even so it pays a few bills. My gripe isn't so much that they bounced - it's that clickcash refuse to cancel them and issue me new cheques until they get the old ones back. The onus should be on them to sort this crap out not me - they issued them knowing they'd bounce which is illegal in itself as far as I am aware, they should be responsible for sorting the crap out and sending new cheques. To say it was bank problems may have held the 1st time but to get a second cheque do the same? As I bank in the US but don't live there it's taken several months of the cheques flying backwards and forwards between banks and back to me (I was told to represent them - they were then refused again) to even have them to send back to cc.

Fuck 'em. No sponsor that causes that much shit is worth going anywhere near. There are others sponsors out there that do treat people who make them $'s with just a little courtesy, so why leave yourslelf open to this shit happening again is my view.

Milton · 06-01-2002, 04:39 AM

they robbed me

MinBin · 06-01-2002, 05:39 AM

I've been using Ifriends/Clickcash for 2 years, get a check every week, and (knock on wood) have never had a problem with receiving the checks, or cashing the checks.

cscotb · 06-01-2002, 05:45 AM

Clickcash pays on time. every time. Expect conversion ratios of 1:250 off tgp traffic and 1:25-1:50 with se.

GotGauge · 06-01-2002, 07:10 AM

I have been using them for 2 years now,
Just like every sponsor they have had some problems, but I believe everyone has been paid. For conversions, they are not so good now. 2 years ago mine were 1:20 now they are like 1:250
This is becasue everyone and their brother is promoting them right now, not to mention ifriends/clickcash is also spending tons of money in advertising, have you see what comes up at nightsurf? Mostly clickcash.
Sometimes it is best to promote other programs for a little while,
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bunky · 06-01-2002, 07:20 AM

i was with ifriends for about 8 months, all checks were ontime and they never bounced... now i think they are just overdone

bunky

DamnFineOnline · 06-01-2002, 07:23 AM

ClickCash is crap...

A year or so ago they were great but it's been trailing off for the past 6 months..

my conversion ratios are terrible, their stats program is ALWAYS messed up, and I've bounced like 2k in checks from them...

There are alot better live cam networks to promote. These days I've been using g04livecam with much better success...

clickcash

Tipsy · 06-01-2002, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DamnFineOnline
ClickCash is crap...

A year or so ago they were great but it's been trailing off for the past 6 months..

my conversion ratios are terrible, their stats program is ALWAYS messed up, and I've bounced like 2k in checks from them...

There are alot better live cam networks to promote. These days I've been using g04livecam with much better success...

clickcash

Exactly. For every person who's not had a problem more have and have dropped them. The warning's there to be taken...

pr0 · 06-01-2002, 10:20 AM

They bounced the first check they sent to me. So i will never use them again, call it a bank switch, act of god, i don't give a fuck.

I will also continue to tell webmasters not to touch them, its not worth the possibility of losing money/traffic.

I am using a new webcam program now that converts 1/45 for me, and like 1/120 for most people i know. If your interested icq me for details.

jules180 · 06-01-2002, 11:15 AM

They stiffed us for 30k saying that we spammed. (which we didnt - we dont even do any kind of email marketing) they even went through the trouble of putting together a fake spam that they said we were sending.

Brian · 06-01-2002, 11:17 AM

Click cash is converting for me at about 1:100 and has been for a couple months.

AdultFriendFinder can suck my left nut. I pushed them for about 3 years and did great. One day they sent me an email saying they termed my account for spam. The only place I ever had their link was on my tgp. Never spammed their shit a day in my life. Fuck them.

cherrylula · 06-01-2002, 11:37 AM

They are notorious for canning your account and not giving you any explanation, and screwing you out of thousands of dollars.

I've known a few honest people who have had this happen to them, with no explanation whatsoever. Ifriends/Click Cash has the poorest customer service I have ever experienced.

You can make $ with them, but don't be surprised if something goes wrong.

Fletch XXX · 06-01-2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jules180
They stiffed us for 30k saying that we spammed. (which we didnt - we dont even do any kind of email marketing) they even went through the trouble of putting together a fake spam that they said we were sending.

Same here, Ifriends killed one of my accounts claiming I was using pictures of girls that were not supposed to be used to promote ifriends.

The fact is though, the girl they claimed emailed them to take down my pics, was my girlfriend, so theyre excuse of me using pictures illegally was bullshit, which is really why I think they never replied.

I emailed and emailed about it, no reply. The week they killed my account, I was owed 900 bucks for the week they cancelled my account, and provided NO INFO and would not even communicate with me.

I swore to them the pics came from their archives and even sent them screen shots and proof of where the pics came from, no word and that was awhile.

I guess they didnt know I live with the girl they claimed was against me.

I had promoted CC for 3 years, and this was like 6 months ago. So its been near 4 years my affiliation with Ifriends. and There checks are and werre and will always be late, anyone who says they never got a check late is bullshit.

Ive made FedEx more times than I can count with ClickCash (they FedEx your check when ya hit 1k in a week) And ive had FedEx come late... not next day, try next week.

I figure I averaged no less than 400 a week from week one on iFriends, so they no doubt owe me thousands...

Not to mention when the whole check cashing thing went down, By February 13 I hadnt recieved a good check for the year!!! From December to Feb no good checks... this year.

from them and was holding 4 checks totally over 3 k that were all NSF...

Let me also say I had a "replacement" check that was also NSF, and wouldnt you know before they paid these, my account was closed for illegal picture use,... yeah right.

I can give you info on where to send that cam traffic ;)

05-31-2002, 10:01 PM	#1
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	clickcash/ifriends - how to deal with them ok, so i actually got my traffic to "convert" with them - it's shitty traffic off my mainstream rating sites. however, it's making more money than i was before (note: $0) and i'm hoping that i am one of the lucky ones they pay. i mean, they had to have paid SOME of their webmasters over the years, right? has anyone in here received and successfully cashed a check from them? i'll be fucking pissed if they can't deliver. i don't care if they shave, i'm still making "decent money" as far as i'm concerned from something i wasn't planning on making money from. if they can't deliver money to me, is there some legal action or some way i can get money from them? how could they continue to do business if so many people have been fucked by them? btw, the site i'm promoting it from is http://ratemythong.com and the related sites. does anyone have an idea of a good sponsor to change to (i want to use text links only..) for this kind of traffic? ifriends seems to be perfect for it, but if i don't get paid it's a waste of my time and i need to switch so i can make non-funny money. thanks. __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

05-31-2002, 10:04 PM	#2
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05-31-2002, 10:05 PM	#3
sinmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 376	Great alternative to ifriends is in my signature. Check it out. __________________

05-31-2002, 10:07 PM	#7
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	I have been paid everyweek last check was 4 days late but I still got it never had one bounce __________________

05-31-2002, 10:16 PM	#8
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	from what i gather.. and this is not fact just observation. foreign webmasters have more problems than u.s based webmasters __________________

05-31-2002, 10:06 PM	#4
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	yes you'll get paid, every monday

05-31-2002, 10:06 PM	#5
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	I've cashed my checks from them... I think the whole issue arrives from the fact they switched banks, and they have the worst customer support in the whole industry. So... for about a month or so, people were bouncing their ifriends checks all over the place... Right now? I don't trust them at all, and I have already switched all of my links away from them... Whether it's a server related issue or a honesty issue, I don't know... That being said, I know several people who cash $2k+ checks from them every week. I really wouldn't be worried about YOUR checks bouncing, I think you will get paid... I always got my checks fedex'd for free, and they always showed up. So if thats the only reason you are worried about ifriends, I really wouldn't be too much... because if your checks don't show up, or bounce you're bound to have a bunch of company here, bitching and screaming. -Drew

05-31-2002, 10:18 PM	#9
mike503 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: oregon. Posts: 2,243	first off THANK YOU GUYS for posting this. the only other posts i saw were always "they don't pay" "they bounce their checks" and "they shave" - so this makes me feel so much better. i'm going to be relying on their checks to pay my server bill the next couple of months until i get some other things off the ground. so thank you and politely go fuck yourselves __________________ php/mysql guru. hosting, coding, all that jazz.

05-31-2002, 10:43 PM	#10
ezwink Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 22	well, i got one check from them on time. Now, have been waiting for two checks for a month. NOT ONE response to emails. So, if you are depending on them...go somewhere else. From what I gather, if you need customer support...you are fucked. __________________ <a href="http://www.commandcash.com/">$50 signup bonus at Command Cash!</a>

05-31-2002, 10:45 PM	#11
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	i recently had a bad experience with them. My ifriends check bounced....so from now on FUCK IFRIENDS!! __________________ Sig heil

05-31-2002, 10:48 PM	#12
meRx Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Oahu , Hawaii Posts: 362	Iv'e been using clickcash for 2 years and i convert great with them. HOWEVER, i have had my share of bounced checks from them. This problem has NOT happend again since they have changed banks. Also , i get paid every two weeks ontime everytime. I guess it might just be my experience , but in my eyes they're kool. To each his own __________________ <a href="http://www.freeezinebucks.com/ps.php?s=feb&u=merxxx"><font size="2">FreeZineBucks</font></a> <font size="2"> EASY MONEY! Earn $1.00/email address! NO DEDUCTIONS!</font> <a href="http://www.contentlotto.com/index.php?account=merx"><font size="2">ContentLotto</font></a> <font size="2"> Win Free Content , Hosting , Traffic , Site Designs & more! Why pay?</font> Last edited by meRx; 05-31-2002 at 10:57 PM..

06-01-2002, 01:48 AM	#13
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	I have two very big gripes that have stopped me using them. The first and most important really is that their hit/sales tracking is totally fucked. SOME accounts will work great others will show only a very small % of sales. On both though conversions (for myself and many I know) are now amongst the worst around. The guy(s) who wrote the VB code for their tracking needs to be hung up from the balls with a bit of babred wire and jiggled around until he admits he's written crap software and doesn't really know how to program. Second point is I also got 2 cheques bounce. Only a few hundred bucks but even so it pays a few bills. My gripe isn't so much that they bounced - it's that clickcash refuse to cancel them and issue me new cheques until they get the old ones back. The onus should be on them to sort this crap out not me - they issued them knowing they'd bounce which is illegal in itself as far as I am aware, they should be responsible for sorting the crap out and sending new cheques. To say it was bank problems may have held the 1st time but to get a second cheque do the same? As I bank in the US but don't live there it's taken several months of the cheques flying backwards and forwards between banks and back to me (I was told to represent them - they were then refused again) to even have them to send back to cc. Fuck 'em. No sponsor that causes that much shit is worth going anywhere near. There are others sponsors out there that do treat people who make them $'s with just a little courtesy, so why leave yourslelf open to this shit happening again is my view. __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.

06-01-2002, 04:39 AM	#14
Milton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauritius Posts: 1,118	they robbed me

06-01-2002, 05:39 AM	#15
MinBin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 4	I've been using Ifriends/Clickcash for 2 years, get a check every week, and (knock on wood) have never had a problem with receiving the checks, or cashing the checks.

06-01-2002, 05:45 AM	#16
cscotb Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: adams, ma, usa Posts: 92	Clickcash pays on time. every time. Expect conversion ratios of 1:250 off tgp traffic and 1:25-1:50 with se. __________________ Clickcash $60 per free signup.

06-01-2002, 07:10 AM	#17
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	I have been using them for 2 years now, Just like every sponsor they have had some problems, but I believe everyone has been paid. For conversions, they are not so good now. 2 years ago mine were 1:20 now they are like 1:250 This is becasue everyone and their brother is promoting them right now, not to mention ifriends/clickcash is also spending tons of money in advertising, have you see what comes up at nightsurf? Mostly clickcash. Sometimes it is best to promote other programs for a little while, here is a cam program that is kinda like clickcash but has the potential to make more money per signup then clickcash, since they pay a percent on what the guy spends, and them horny fuckers spend a Lot. Click Here to check them out Compare to ifriends/clickcash Or check my sig for others __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

06-01-2002, 07:20 AM	#18
bunky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Charlotte NC USA Posts: 902	i was with ifriends for about 8 months, all checks were ontime and they never bounced... now i think they are just overdone bunky __________________ BoneProne 4 Life - BoneProne Family [insert title here]

06-01-2002, 07:23 AM	#19
DamnFineOnline Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: palm beach, fl. Posts: 348	ClickCash is crap... A year or so ago they were great but it's been trailing off for the past 6 months.. my conversion ratios are terrible, their stats program is ALWAYS messed up, and I've bounced like 2k in checks from them... There are alot better live cam networks to promote. These days I've been using g04livecam with much better success... clickcash

06-01-2002, 10:20 AM	#21
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	They bounced the first check they sent to me. So i will never use them again, call it a bank switch, act of god, i don't give a fuck. I will also continue to tell webmasters not to touch them, its not worth the possibility of losing money/traffic. I am using a new webcam program now that converts 1/45 for me, and like 1/120 for most people i know. If your interested icq me for details.

06-01-2002, 11:15 AM	#22
jules180 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 45	They stiffed us for 30k saying that we spammed. (which we didnt - we dont even do any kind of email marketing) they even went through the trouble of putting together a fake spam that they said we were sending.

06-01-2002, 11:17 AM	#23
Brian Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Amherst, MA Posts: 450	Click cash is converting for me at about 1:100 and has been for a couple months. AdultFriendFinder can suck my left nut. I pushed them for about 3 years and did great. One day they sent me an email saying they termed my account for spam. The only place I ever had their link was on my tgp. Never spammed their shit a day in my life. Fuck them. __________________ ICQ: 89118055 HerbalCommerce.com - Herbal Product Manufacturing/Private labeling - NOT a middleman! WebmasterCommerce.com - Webmaster Resources FightResource.com - *THE* Online Mixed Martial Arts Directory

06-01-2002, 11:37 AM	#24
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	They are notorious for canning your account and not giving you any explanation, and screwing you out of thousands of dollars. I've known a few honest people who have had this happen to them, with no explanation whatsoever. Ifriends/Click Cash has the poorest customer service I have ever experienced. You can make $ with them, but don't be surprised if something goes wrong.