Absolutely! Add database connectivity and you've got a cutting edge website.

I code with MySQL & ASP. It's a bit of a cunt because hardly any hosts offer windows hosting of any significance (read: >100gb/mo).

(any suggestions?)

stephan, you got mail


also i read your yesterday's post about cookies.

Interesting thing:

Hi Guys,

I am attending the Montreal convention this weekend & my first concern was about the cookies that billing company's use to track sales from your referral links? Ok here is a scoop for everyone that is making their income threw referral programs.... All surfer that have internet explorer 6.0 on their machine as their cookies set to disable automatically. That means you are not getting credit for the sale if somebody clicks on your referral code... Now, how many surfers will enable cookies, not to many. I have spoken to a representative from http://www.paycom.net & they are coming with a solution for this problem, I really think that we should only promote anyone that is using paycom.net for now until other billing company's come up with a solution of their own. It will only help your sales. Most of the webmasters running paysites don't give a shit about this cookie thing but I do, their is no free ride in this business. I work hard on building & marketing my sites & I want to make sure I get proper credit for my efforts. I seriously think you should look into this & complain to your webmaster that owns the paysite that is using cookies to track sales. I will come up with a list of all referral program sites that are using paycom as their credit card processors. No more shaving our hard earned cash....

Thank-you,
Stephan

They do that shit alll the time, the only time they ever do anything about it is when someone complains. I have even seen people post usernames and passwords on that site and give thousands of bandwidth sucking assholes access to some poor assholes members section.

Most of the ones that aren't hotlinked are unlicensed illegal bootleg clips from DVD and VHS porn movies. I have been amazed for years that guy hasn't been shut down.

xxxmovieforum - thats just BS..

you dont stop hotlinkers. i know this for a fact. all you do is get complaints from board owners that someone is "spamming" (posting < 1mb movies) and you ban them - but thats about it. you dont stop hotlinking - you promote it.

same goes for bianca, phatforums, dirtymessages, pornforums, etc, etc, etc

So True!

You members can free to use www.verisexy.net to post movies up to 1MB in size. I was really tired of hotlinkers myself. Just don't hotlink off my servers either. People that link directly to movies on other peoples servers are just selfish.

They can use a splitting program to split them into 1MB sizes and I am cool with it as long as they make actual gallerys.

Very well said! Don't cry cuz people call you for what you are! Setting up an area for people to steal makes you just as responsible!! Funny how you have to say "I'll say it again..." most reputable sites never have to say it once!

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A few things I've learned from pirate boards:

Lots of them don't spend that much time finding the links. Half the time they're just reposting links that others have found on other pirate boards ... You'll see the same links posted over and over on different boards ...

You'll also notice that the pirates are really fond of hacking content providers mostly, I assume, because there's easier access with trial offers and such. And since content provider sites are usually built to be easily accessed by other webmasters, some of those sites tend to get hacked alot. Once they get in ... bam ... tons of movies ...

Another trick the pirates use is playing with the file names. Too many webmasters name the full movie almost exactly the same as the preview vid. All the pirate has to do is play around with the file name and he's got the full movie. Also, too many webmasters will name the movies in progressive order like ... oralvideo1, oralvideo2, etc ... pretty easy to figure out and all the pirates on the board will jump in and help each other find the other file names ...

These people will do pretty much anything to avoid paying for porn ... LOL

Fuck hot linkahs

I am so inclined ... Are there any books in particular that you would recommend?

Yeah recommend one of these books you have read man. All ears.

Those fucking hotlinkers are getting a damn pain in the ass.
In May I had about 300 or 400gigs burned by those damn fuckers.
Dude your lucky you don't live in my town.
Don't say shit like " I am not responsible blahblah"
Bullshit!
Nowwhere you guys say that hotlinking is illegal and not allowed.
If one of your members has hotlinks on his site you should take him down right away.
it's that simple.
But no your a coward and hide behind your "I'm not responsable"
Some webmasters take your links down fast after you mailed them but with some fuckers it takes days.
Well I have everything logged and the assholes hotlinking and allowing people to hotlink my movies will pay the bandwidth bill or I will seriously hunt them down.
I'm done with hotlinkers.

that has got to be one of the dumbest things I have heard all day!

Hotlinking is hotlinking is stealing no matter what the size :321GFY

who the fuck are you kidding? I ran 4 MGPs and never had one fucking hotlinker on them. It is no problem verifying that the clip plays on the same domain as the site submitting the gallery. You are as guilty as they are for allowing them to get away with it, and you do it because they bring you cash. :321GFY

Hi,

For any webmasters that run movie sites & are concerned about hotlinkage, I have created a site for banning url's on xxxmovieforum.com forums.
http://www.xxxmovieforum.com/Webmaster/bannedurls.html
just submit your site & will make sure that it will be listed.

Thank-you,
Stephan
:(

out of curiousity, xxxmovieforums do you have an example of legitimate content that is posted on your site? could you show an example where there is a practical application for your site other than stolen material? btw, thx for the popup chain of 'porn password' sites and such. you can really tell that you're running a classy operation.

haha

you're just doing this to shut up a handful of people, what about the other 99% of people that dont post on here or dont read this thread? you're still responsible for all the others.

ok so you're telling your users that they can hotlink anyone but people on the list? it should say "DO NOT HOTLINK ANYONE OR I WILL DELETE YOUR FORUM". its quite clear that you support hotlinkers, you just backed our accusations up even more.

I said it once, I will say it again, "? I ran 4 MGPs and never had one fucking hotlinker on them. It is no problem verifying that the clip plays on the same domain as the site submitting the gallery. You are as guilty as they are for allowing them to get away with it, and you do it because they bring you cash." :321GFY

Or even more important why should we have to go through that effort to avoid being ripped off by your users!! Though eventually if everyone submitted their site you would be shut down cuz one one is going to post on your site if they can't post stolen material! Show us how serious you are and post that url on every webmaster board and on your site so when ppl find out they've been hot linked by your users they know how to avoid it again! You should also post on your site that users caught are liable to pay bandwidth charges!!

Literally, 99% of the stuff on those forums is hotlinked.. how about that xxxmovieforum? Just visit any board, and under every post youll see a hotlinked movie. Dont try to shut us up because of your page which has a list of 5 links.. your boards on your domain on your hosting are hotlinking - YOU are responsible

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Okeyday! I'm only experienced in ASP, thus can't offer much in the way of PHP; but it is very powerful and a damn fine serverside option.

I chose ASP because of it's option to write in [the default] VBScript. This is a big plus if you know a bit of VB/VBS, and besides that, it's a bloody easy to pick up since it makes full use of plain english syntax.

Books;

ASP: Beginning Active Server Pages 3.0 by Wrox Press. Aimed at the new ASPer this is a good one to add to the bookshelf. (this is only an option if you are on a windows box OR otherwise have ASP support (via a third party ASP parser ie ChiliSoft on unix))

PHP & MySQL: Build Your Own Database Driven Website Using PHP & MySQL. This is a top book (or so I hear).

There is [ofcourse] a plethora of other great books available but I couldn't comment on any others.

Obviously, you don't need to buy a book at all; some of the best information about serverside coding is found on sites like;
www.codeproject.com, www.visualbuilder.com, www.webmonkey.com, www.w3schools.com;
ASP only: www.asp101.com, www.15seconds.com, www.brainjar.com, www.4guysfromrolla.com, www.activeserverpages.ca, www.haneng.com, www.aspemporium.com, www.asphole.com, www.ultimateasp.com.

The new coder may find it a little daunting finding the information they need - this is where printed publications can have a definite advantage.

Also sitepoint.com & sitepointforums.com is a great webmaster resource site and board. Great place to post questions about all aspects of webdesign. Has a thriving PHP, ASP and MySQL user base to turn to when you're stuck.

If you're only interested in protecting your files and are running on windows however, I can offer a solution which I will write in ASP that checks referrer headers. Very basic and I know you can spoof referrer headers but I don't foresee linkers posting spoofing software along with their dirty links :oP

Cheers

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Thanks Raymo ... Much Appreciated

Well it is mostly about the "right click save target as" issue.
For left click you can setup protection.
If they leftclick on a link to a movie and are not on my domain they are taken to the paysite but most of those hotlinkers just do right click save target as and as far as I know there's nothing you can do against it.
Fuck the hotlinkers and the cowards who say "I'm not responsible".

No probs dude.Wha? Are you saying surfers can still download your content if they save target as [thus not sending referrer headers]? That makes no sense - access should be granted if referrer is your domain. All other request should be denied; 'save target as' falls under this category as it doesn't send referrer headers at all.

What exactly is the problem?

Pirates are always going to be ripping off movies and bandwidth ... you can't stop boards like this ... it's completely useless ...

Besides the ASP/PHP solutions ... people may want to take a look at DRM ... Digital Rights Management with Windows Media ...

The files are encrypted and, from what I can tell, pirates can't crack them ... much less hotlink to them ...

CCBill's got a deal with DRM Networks (I think CCBill actually owns them) ...

I've been checking their pricing and it's getting relatively affordable ... Just FYI

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meh...why should it bother you if boards like this operate if you're not open to attack? If everybody takes care of themselves there will be no content left to target.

This is, after all, a thread about xxxmovieforums linking somebody, not the board in general.

Regarding DRM - isn't that a little over the top considering the same thing can be achieved for free with serverside scripting?

i dont think it helps out people paysite conversions too much when some people put it on message boards for free :2 cents:

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<b>beemk</b> true, it likely affects paysite operators indirectly.

<b>Brown</b> what's up?
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Sorry if I wasn't clear ... All I was saying was that people have to protect their content and bandwidth ... trying to get pirate boards to "reform" is useless ... Even if you shut them down they just set up shop elsewhere ...

Good point about DRM, although do the ASP/PHP solutions prevent copying of the content as well as preventing the hotlinking?

I just mentioned DRM for those who may not want their movies copied ... it does seem to be effective in that regard ...

OH! In that case we're on the same page.

No, serverside [scripting] solutions, thus far, can only deny malicious linking. Once downloaded, the surfer has the content in as regular file.

DRM definitely has it's uses for certain applications, but you'd have to seriously think if you wanted to implement it on your website. For example some paying members may be unimpressed if they can't download their content at work on a phat pipe and bring it home with them...that sorta thing.

In essence, on the other side of the coin copying has it's legitimate uses too.

BrownBear, whats up with the :mad: ? bringing up the ol post count, eh?

Anyway, I contacted a forum owner at xxxmovieforum - and guess what - he doesnt even know about your page saying dont post these domains!

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