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Old 06-27-2006, 04:29 PM   #51
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:43 PM   #53
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<Emphasizing your own quote>

"of religion"

Meaning people are free to chose their own religion, whatever that might be.


"From" would indicate a removal or exlusion of the people and religion... which would mean that the Constitution defines us as an atheist state... which isn't the case. You might begin to realize how inaccurate that statement might be when you remember that many of our founders were religious men.

I think this might just be a case of you not understanding the difference between the use of "of" and "from."
Holy crap, this sounds like one of those logical reasoning,analytical skills trick questions you would find ont he law school entrance exam or something.

My brain just exploded from reading that.
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:52 PM   #54
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not an american citizen though...
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:08 PM   #55
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You answered 90% of questions correctly.

I missed:

8. Which of the following amendments to the Constitution does NOT address or guarantee voting rights?
24th Amendment is not correct.
7th Amendment


I had no fucking clue on it. The second one I missed I must have misread, because while I might have gotten it wrong, I'd have known 50 wasn't enough.

15. How many representatives are there in Congress?
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:15 PM   #56
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Old 06-27-2006, 10:17 PM   #57
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:03 AM   #58
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"From" would indicate a removal or exlusion of the people and religion... which would mean that the Constitution defines us as an atheist state... which isn't the case. You might begin to realize how inaccurate that statement might be when you remember that many of our founders were religious men.
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Actually I think Jefferson while he was president put it quite plainly:
"In 1802, President Jefferson wrote a letter to a group of Baptists in Danbury, Connecticut, in which he declared that it was the purpose of the First Amendment to build ''a wall of separation between Church and State.''

Although your interpretation of it establising an atheist state is pretty close - that was the intent - to establish a government with no preferential treatment because of religion - keep in mind that most of why people left England and other European countries and settled in the US colonies was because of religious persecution.

Also - you might do a little research into the religious beliefs of the constitutional signers - a heavy percentage of them were NOT Christian and had very robust beliefs that religion was an anchor that could drag down a new nation
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Actually I think Jefferson while he was president put it quite plainly:
"In 1802, President Jefferson wrote a letter to a group of Baptists in Danbury, Connecticut, in which he declared that it was the purpose of the First Amendment to build ''a wall of separation between Church and State.''

Although your interpretation of it establising an atheist state is pretty close - that was the intent - to establish a government with no preferential treatment because of religion - keep in mind that most of why people left England and other European countries and settled in the US colonies was because of religious persecution.

Also - you might do a little research into the religious beliefs of the constitutional signers - a heavy percentage of them were NOT Christian and had very robust beliefs that religion was an anchor that could drag down a new nation

If I am not mistaken, most were Deists, right? ie., God created the world then let it to run on its own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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Old 06-28-2006, 04:17 AM   #60
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Ok yes, the title of the amendment is "of", but in practice it's really freedom from a congressionally established religion, and freedom from persecution for practicing whatever religion we want.

After all, some of the very first colonists fled to America for the very reason that they were being persecuted based on their religions. Thats why it's the 1st amendment.

I also feel that in everyday life, people interpret the phrase "freedom of religion" as being a protection for churches (which it is) but not as protection for citizens (which is it's 1st real purpose).

Whereas the phrase "freedom from religion" much more clearly tells that the main purpose is to protect the citizens from the imposition of any particular religion over another.
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Funny, I just took the actual test two months ago. It was the easiest thing ever but then again I've been in the states 11 years and speak fluent english. Marc had to buff up on his history skills to help me study lol.
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Old 06-29-2006, 01:21 AM   #67
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all i missed was the INS form # question.
Only one I missed, too.

Dumb question anyway... if someone is sitting down taking this test, he obviously figured out which forms to fill out.
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Old 06-29-2006, 03:27 AM   #69
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If I am not mistaken, most were Deists, right? ie., God created the world then let it to run on its own.
Thats correct - and most liked the world that way - which is why they bothered to work on the Constitution - if they had been god fearing Christians they would have just sat on their collective asses waiting for god to fix things llike they do today
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:51 AM   #71
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i am an american, and i missed 3.

i would have bombed had it not been multiple choice, i havent studied that stuff since school days.
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:57 AM   #72
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:57 AM   #73
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Actually - you are mistaken:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" - therefore freedom from religion - not freedom of religion
Hmm guess you failed the basic english portion then.
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Ok yes, the title of the amendment is "of", but in practice it's really freedom from a congressionally established religion, and freedom from persecution for practicing whatever religion we want.

After all, some of the very first colonists fled to America for the very reason that they were being persecuted based on their religions. Thats why it's the 1st amendment.

I also feel that in everyday life, people interpret the phrase "freedom of religion" as being a protection for churches (which it is) but not as protection for citizens (which is it's 1st real purpose).

Whereas the phrase "freedom from religion" much more clearly tells that the main purpose is to protect the citizens from the imposition of any particular religion over another.

No the Pilgrims came here so they could practice their own religion. Meaning whatever religion they saw fit. Hence freedom OF religion. They did flee here to become atheists..
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You guys are missing the point of the statement in the Constitution - relating it to the pilgrims being able to escape persecution is not the purpose of it being in there - its to ensure that the government is never influenced by religion and that the government never establishes a certain religion as the "state-supported" religion

The argument over semantics of the words "of and from" is really kinda ridiculous as some people use them interchangebly and some see them as two separate words - the purpose of the framers of the Constitution was to keep religion away "from" government - some have interpreted this their own way to say that it also means freedom to practice whatever religion they want - therefore "of" - but this was not a consideration during the original writing of the Bill of Rights since it was already assumed that the colonial citizens were very diverse in their religious practices
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I'm in. 100%. I even got the forms right.

Now if we can get Congress to reread the Bill Of Rights and stop stepping on speech and the press we will be in good shape.
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