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Old 05-31-2002, 07:34 PM   #1
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How did you start out in porn?

Im new here, and this topic has probably already been covered so many times already but like i care, go fuck yourself

Anyways my life story:

I use to run warez/hacking/password site on fsn.net back in like 97-98, lol remember fsn. It was probably the most famous free host out there at that time. Well after I found out my password page was way more popular than my warez and hacking, i decided to just concentrate on passwords.

Well after a couple of months, i opened up pornhackers.com and unknownpasses.com, both were pretty succesful those days at 10k uniques each day. After like 2-3 years I got bored and just stop working on them and by that time the password scene was dead anyways. So i called it quits and decided to concentrate on school.

Now im back in the game, and i kinda regret dropping all that traffic away for nothing. Oh well I geuss its time to start from the beginning again.

If anyone wants to help an ol' webmaster start up again, please contact me via icq 27954989. I will do your dirty work just to try to get back into the flow of things again ...
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:36 PM   #2
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:42 PM   #3
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:43 PM   #4
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Im new here, and this topic has probably already been covered so many times already but like i care, go fuck yourself

Anyways my life story:

I use to run warez/hacking/password site on fsn.net back in like 97-98, lol remember fsn. It was probably the most famous free host out there at that time. Well after I found out my password page was way more popular than my warez and hacking, i decided to just concentrate on passwords.

Well after a couple of months, i opened up pornhackers.com and unknownpasses.com, both were pretty succesful those days at 10k uniques each day. After like 2-3 years I got bored and just stop working on them and by that time the password scene was dead anyways. So i called it quits and decided to concentrate on school.

Now im back in the game, and i kinda regret dropping all that traffic away for nothing. Oh well I geuss its time to start from the beginning again.

If anyone wants to help an ol' webmaster start up again, please contact me via icq 27954989. I will do your dirty work just to try to get back into the flow of things again ...
I still have a dead link to xxx.fsn.net on one of my sites. They used to send a lot of traffic from their toplist or whatever it was.
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:44 PM   #5
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hate to be cruel, but you don't sound trustworthy
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:46 PM   #6
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You are a scammer and a cheat. You will never make much money in this industry.

GO FUCK YOURSELF!
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:47 PM   #7
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hate to be cruel, but you don't sound trustworthy
Yeh I know wtf who is stupid enought to go on a adult webmaster site around 50% of whose members own pay sites and tell them about password stealings sites.

Lol some of you should go on the internet history thing lookup his sites, then sue him for the money you lost to those sites. That should get him back into the game

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Old 05-31-2002, 07:48 PM   #8
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:57 PM   #9
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What do you think is worst off, me giving free porn to 10,000 people or the hun giving free porn to 1,500,000?
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:58 PM   #10
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Thats true, but the hun does it with permision and does not hack peoples websites. You need to remember that bandwith etc costs money.
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Old 05-31-2002, 08:05 PM   #11
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Old 05-31-2002, 08:06 PM   #12
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And let's not forget about...ETHICS!

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Old 05-31-2002, 08:09 PM   #13
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And if you knew anything about the password industry back then, most "passes" were actually to fake membership section. Pretty much like an AVS site with 3 gals and then some scam link to their sponsors.

In total ive probably had 3 webmasters email me to remove the links, which i happily obliged. Most of my 'passes' we're given to me by email, Ive never hacked or carded sites, that would be way too time consuming.

here's to the motherfuckers who called me a cheat and scam!
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Old 05-31-2002, 08:10 PM   #14
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the hun is promoting a product, you are stealing a product and giving it away for free. which one is wrong? i'll let you decide that for yourself. if i was you i would quit right now and make a new name.
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Old 05-31-2002, 08:24 PM   #15
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This is a good strategy if done correctly, AND honestly.
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:37 PM   #16
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This is a good strategy if done correctly, AND honestly.
How can you do it honestly, though?

1. Steal the passwords and you're not being honest/ethical with the paysties.

2. Use fake paysites and lie to the surfers telling them they are getting stolen passwords.

Either way, it's hardly honest.
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:41 PM   #17
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way back in the day i talked with someone who said that password sites actually help his paysite, because once it crosses over the 3 ip limit, the account is locked out anyway. he gets to collect full membership costs

i guess the point is.. if your site is getting leaked, hope it gets spammed all over and you have iprot installed or something similar, because it will shut down the account pretty instantly before people suck you dry...
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:45 PM   #18
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way back in the day i talked with someone who said that password sites actually help his paysite
he must be crazy. think about it, you can loose someone who may have had an account for 5 years just because some password kids put it all over the net. what i do think may work is submitting FAKE passwords, but i doubt the traffic will convert anything close to good. mabye not even good enough to pay the BW bills.
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:49 PM   #19
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What do you think is worst off, me giving free porn to 10,000 people or the hun giving free porn to 1,500,000?
He chooses to, you stole it.

Put up a site, I will hack into it and steal all your content and give away passwords. That's all right with you, right.

Problem is I'm honest and do not steal.
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:52 PM   #20
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Old 05-31-2002, 10:57 PM   #21
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How can you do it honestly, though?

1. Steal the passwords and you're not being honest/ethical with the paysties.

2. Use fake paysites and lie to the surfers telling them they are getting stolen passwords.

Either way, it's hardly honest.
In case 2, I couldn't care less. Surfers who are trying to get stolen passwords and end up with fake stolen passwords don't really get my sympathy meter cranking.
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Old 05-31-2002, 11:03 PM   #22
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I shit you not, my PW sites were awesome in converting ... look i just went to my old trafficcash.com acct and went to the last week i could go to which was about a year ago ... and i got this, this was when my site was dying and i didn't work on it. When It was bigger i was getting about 10-15 signups a week.

Bad Girls Club 8 5 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00
Private Teens 9 5 1 $ 35.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 35.00
Private Gold 12 8 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00
School Girls 40 34 1 $ 35.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 35.00
True Celebs 11 9 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00

Normal Sales Sub-Total 80 61 2 $ 70.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 70.00

Yes that is a 1:30 ratio, some TGPs would kill for that. Traffic to the site was around 800-1500 uniques a day.

I don't understand some of these noobs, bashing on PW sites when they obviously had no experiance with them. Just like mike said, most paysites out there by that time had the technology to lock down IPs when there were mulitple logins with different IPs. So most of the passes were fake "passes" to small sites with 3-5 gallery pages.
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Old 05-31-2002, 11:13 PM   #23
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I am a paysite owner and I love PW traffic! Whenever I get posted, my joins sky-rocket. So, feel free to send all that "shitty" traffic my way, lol.

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Old 06-01-2002, 01:13 AM   #24
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I shit you not, my PW sites were awesome in converting ... look i just went to my old trafficcash.com acct and went to the last week i could go to which was about a year ago ... and i got this, this was when my site was dying and i didn't work on it. When It was bigger i was getting about 10-15 signups a week.

Bad Girls Club 8 5 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00
Private Teens 9 5 1 $ 35.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 35.00
Private Gold 12 8 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00
School Girls 40 34 1 $ 35.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 35.00
True Celebs 11 9 0 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00

Normal Sales Sub-Total 80 61 2 $ 70.00 $ 0.00 $ 0.00 $ 70.00

Yes that is a 1:30 ratio, some TGPs would kill for that. Traffic to the site was around 800-1500 uniques a day.

I don't understand some of these noobs, bashing on PW sites when they obviously had no experiance with them. Just like mike said, most paysites out there by that time had the technology to lock down IPs when there were mulitple logins with different IPs. So most of the passes were fake "passes" to small sites with 3-5 gallery pages.

CEN counts second page clicks, not first page clicks, so your ratio is not as good as you think it is.....
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Old 06-01-2002, 02:32 AM   #25
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Old 06-01-2002, 04:01 AM   #26
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If your hosting company protects your shit, you are golden!

Password sites give you free traffic if you deal with it right. The only downer is loosing that one visitor who's pw is being used. But yu should make that up. Right?
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