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06-22-2006, 02:27 AM

My sister studied in New York and then got married to her american boyfriend. Shes been living there 5-6 years and shes just got a $45k / year job but immigration won't accept her on some technicality!

So she might have to leave her husband, her job and the place shes lived for 5 years and be banned from USA for 7 years.

At every stage she has had a nightmare dealing with the immigration system why does the USA make it so dificult for people from UK?0 (Despite being related to me!) she is an educated person with a American Husband and a $45k / year job! she is not a burden on the system.

Land for the free if you have $500k + to setup a bussiness or you are from a poor country and want to work shit jobs americans don't want to do or if you are Irish!

The UK and USA are supposed to be on good terms we are in the stupid Iraq war and everything. UK does not make it this hard for US citizens to come and work a good job in the UK, why does USA do it to us?
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06-22-2006, 03:38 AM

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06-22-2006, 03:41 AM

I am intrigued to know what is this technicality you speak of.

If it is a technicality in the sense of being caught dealing drugs or what have you then she´s screwed.

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06-22-2006, 03:55 AM

These issues used to be so easy to fix via the 'administrative waiver' provision. 9/11 changed all that.

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06-22-2006, 04:04 AM

yeah what are the technicalities no grey areas with Immigration

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06-22-2006, 04:11 AM

That really stinks. I went thru the whole INS thing when I married someone from Scotland and we had no problems. The whole thing was over & done with in 2 years. What's the technicality?
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06-22-2006, 04:31 AM

Sounds weird, as marriage to a US citizen is usually guaranteed green card unless you fuck up at the interview.
I've heard of cases like yours but that was because one of the party was caught overstaying their student visa or some other infraction prior to getting married.

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06-22-2006, 04:52 AM

Originally posted by xtrasyn

I am intrigued to know what is this technicality you speak of.

If it is a technicality in the sense of being caught dealing drugs or what have you then she´s screwed.

no nothing like that! I think it is a problem that last year her and her husbands combined income was too low. The reason for this is she was not allowed to work because her application was pending! Her husband broke both his legs in a car accident and was in hospital for 9 months and couldn't work either! but now they are both back to work and shes on $45k / year but because of this have told her to stop working and she will lose her job!
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06-22-2006, 07:07 AM

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06-22-2006, 07:12 AM

Not the land of freedom anymore but good luck with everything
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06-22-2006, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy

Uniformed power trippers - you want to try clearing US Customs and Immigration as often as I do.

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06-22-2006, 07:15 AM

Spanno, I assume you make good money and report your income. You sign a paper and sponsor them. That would solve it.

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no nothing like that! I think it is a problem that last year her and her husbands combined income was too low. The reason for this is she was not allowed to work because her application was pending! Her husband broke both his legs in a car accident and was in hospital for 9 months and couldn't work either! but now they are both back to work and shes on $45k / year but because of this have told her to stop working and she will lose her job!

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06-22-2006, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by RogerV

Not the land of freedom anymore but good luck with everything

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06-22-2006, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by bobbyjuly

Spanno, I assume you make good money and report your income. You sign a paper and sponsor them. That would solve it.

Uh huh. You obviously have no idea how the system works.
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06-22-2006, 07:57 AM

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Uh huh. You obviously have no idea how the system works.

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06-22-2006, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by bobbyjuly

Spanno, I assume you make good money and report your income. You sign a paper and sponsor them. That would solve it.

well yes she didn't know she needed it and it maybe too late + she might lose her job because she has been told not to work :o/
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06-22-2006, 08:11 AM

so she was told not to work but a got a job anyway?
How is that not her fault?
I agree with ya about our immigration policy being shit, but sometimes people need to buck up and take responsibility for their own action

Anyways, it sounds like she is the type of citizen this country wants, yet INS is wasting its time on her instead of tending more pressing issues..
I wish her the best of luck
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06-22-2006, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by spanno

well yes she didn't know she needed it and it maybe too late + she might lose her job because she has been told not to work :o/

If immigration revokes her work permit, it's all over. She basically has to start over.
If they deport her... she's screwed.

They could both head back to the UK of course. Always an option.
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06-22-2006, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by juz

so she was told not to work but a got a job anyway?
How is that not her fault?

no! she had permission to work while her application was pending she has now been denied yesterday and told not to work so she might lose her job if she can't sort it out.

I don't really want to go into details but something is very fucked up when someone with US education, a decent job and a husband and five years in the country can't get a residency.

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06-22-2006, 09:12 AM

It is true that it is harder to go from the UK to the USA than the other way around but let me assure you it isn't at all easy to become a UK citizen when you are an American either. Took me ten years.
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06-22-2006, 09:19 AM

That sucks...I hope everything works out for her. Good luck!

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06-22-2006, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by spanno

My sister studied in New York and then got married to her american boyfriend. Shes been living there 5-6 years and shes just got a $45k / year job but immigration won't accept her on some technicality!

So she might have to leave her husband, her job and the place shes lived for 5 years and be banned from USA for 7 years.

At every stage she has had a nightmare dealing with the immigration system why does the USA make it so dificult for people from UK?0 (Despite being related to me!) she is an educated person with a American Husband and a $45k / year job! she is not a burden on the system.

Land for the free if you have $500k + to setup a bussiness or you are from a poor country and want to work shit jobs americans don't want to do or if you are Irish!

The UK and USA are supposed to be on good terms we are in the stupid Iraq war and everything. UK does not make it this hard for US citizens to come and work a good job in the UK, why does USA do it to us?

she has done wrong. Transferring from nonimmigrant (student) visa to Immigrant is a little bit tricky. There are laws and restrictions. She should have left and got a Fiancee visa and come back and marry. Do not blame the Immigration in U.S.A.
That's why they give instructions. 6-7 years?!?

If she would have done the right way as stated above, she would get greencard in 1 1/2 years and by now she was a U.S. Naturalized citizen.
You don't like the rules and laws, go back home
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06-22-2006, 09:38 AM

Well hope she can fix the problem.
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06-22-2006, 09:40 AM

That's ashame. Income does play a big part of the whole thing. I remember having to provide the previous 5 yrs' tax records plus proof of annual income with one of the forms I had to fill out. It had a preselected annual income requirement that I had to prove I had met and/or exceeded to show I could support a spouse solely on my own income.

With her husband having been out of work for 9 months last year, I guess he didn't meet the requirement. She's trying to get approved based on an American spouse so it's up to him, as the American, to prove to INS that he can support her on his income, not that she can support herself. Hopefully they understand the situation he was in with the broken legs and the inability to work because of it and approve it. I wish her a lot of luck.
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06-22-2006, 09:43 AM

Gone through that myself with my wife. Not being rejected, but the whole immigration process. She couldnt work for 3 years while we waited. Hope it works out for her.
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06-22-2006, 10:43 AM

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It is true that it is harder to go from the UK to the USA than the other way around but let me assure you it isn't at all easy to become a UK citizen when you are an American either. Took me ten years.

well yes to become a citizen how dificult was it to get resindency / permission to work in?UK?
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06-22-2006, 10:55 AM

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06-22-2006, 11:05 AM

find co-sponsor
if you provide 2-3 cosponsors (family members that care) that have income 125% proverty line plus the household graph they have. Then she can get approved for it. Or she can leave and come back with a Fiancee visa without getting a ban
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06-22-2006, 11:05 AM

find co-sponsor
if you provide 2-3 cosponsors (family members that care) that have income 125% proverty line plus the household graph they have. Then she can get approved for it. Or she can leave and come back with a Fiancee visa without getting a ban
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06-22-2006, 11:08 AM

anyways the HUSBAND is the sponsor and why isn't he working?
That is suspecious for the USCIS. Sponsor needs to have a job plus he's a guy that's another story..
Something is fishy so they will deny the case and he will get into trouble plus she will get a Red stamp on her visa and will never be able to come to the U.S. or 10 years ban
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06-22-2006, 11:14 AM

Our experience hasn't been that bad but we did a lot of research and avoided making some mistakes. My wife was already here on an expired student visa but because we did things properly had no issue getting her 10 year green card.

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06-22-2006, 11:55 AM

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06-22-2006, 12:32 PM

Her husband needs to claim her for the spousal visa/greencard.

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06-22-2006, 12:53 PM

Had a friend where his wife needed to visit US for about four days and needed a visa.

She gets rejected because "How do we know you will not remain in the US after your visa term expires?". That was the first dumb-ass excuse.

That couple personally own 55% of a chain of .. around 380 international hotels - including a number in the US, - and currently buying majority shareholding in a well-known US hotel chain and completing a deal for the purchase of a cruise line.

Like she needs to become a "illegal alien" in a country she has no desire to live in anyways??

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06-22-2006, 01:25 PM

Immigration is fucked in the US. My wife is an immigrant and I can tell you that it is theoretically possible to get US citizenship after 2 years of marriage. Realistically with all the paperwork fuckups and incorrect forms and just general slowness it will be more like 5 years. They cannot deport you though if you are married to a citizen its basically impossible. They have a bunch of BS about getting a greencard, but they don't enforce any of the laws so it doesn't really matter. The only way you are going to get in trouble is if you get busted for drug selling or gangbanging. Its easier & cheaper to deport you than prosecute you. I really think that they should allow anyone with a 4 year degree a greencard. Most illegals are people who over stayed their student visa (except fence jumping mexicans). If they gave everyone with a degree a greencard they would be really motivated to finish college and we would have an influx of educated employees.

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06-22-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by nostradamus

anyways the HUSBAND is the sponsor and why isn't he working?

He wasn't working last year because he is a drummer / drums teacher and he was in a car accident and broke both his legs make it hard to play the drums!
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06-22-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by spanno

well yes to become a citizen how dificult was it to get resindency / permission to work in?UK?

Permenant residency due to marriage was more of a red tape nightmare than difficult for any other reason. The biggest pain was after a year of marriage (you have to go once you get married and then a year after) that it came down to somebody behind a desk judging if my husband and I were really in love. Hoenstly, that was what they had to judge - somebody who never met us. Luckily we were lovestruck so it was hard for them to say otherwise and then it was just red tape. That was because I came from another Western nation. I was in line at Lunar House with wives from other countries that were sent back that had been married just as long as me, etc.
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