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  • MarkTiarra
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2002
    • 3833

    #1

    Paysite Tip - Billing Options

    It's been awhile since I did one of these and I'm waiting on FTP info from a client... so rather than pick my nose and watch TV, I came right to GFY to babble on about this...

    I think I've covered this in another tip way back but it's a good one and it's a common question with new clients: "What do you think I should charge?" Most people go with whatever price point they see on similar sites to theirs. I've found that it's very important to try several and compare the numbers though. It's not just about how it effects conversion too... you have to look at retention numbers for members at various price points and also how it effects your webmaster base (you charge more, they get paid more on revshare or you can afford to pay more on PPS).

    So if you're starting a new site or looking to eek all the profits you can out of an old one, consider setting up three or four options and running them for a couple weeks each so you can compare results. Do something like:

    $2.95 3 day - Recur $29.95 30 day
    $4.95 4 day - Recur $34.95 30 day
    No trial - $24.95 30 day
    No trial - $34.95 30 day

    Then setup a spreadsheet to monitor conversions, trial conversions to full and retention month to month and compare the results of each to see where your best bottom line is. The only thing that you won't get a feel for directly is how your webmasters are responding (they drop your link or add you based on what it works out to in their payout). Don't assume the webmaster will automatically stick with the most profitable option because alot of guys work off perception rather than reality. That's why a program like NATS is so good because you can setup individual billing options per webmaster and allow them to select one. I'd rather have my webmasters keep sending traffick to a less profitable option than get nothing from them!

    Anyway... no rocket science there but it's something worth takign a look at if you have't already. Best of luck to everyone in your ventures!

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  • Big_Red
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 4147

    #2
    thanks a bunch. thread bookmarked.
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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133986

      #3
      Great tip Mark..thanks

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      • JoeS
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        • Aug 2003
        • 891

        #4
        Nice post Mark!

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        • 2HousePlague
          CURATOR
          • Jul 2004
          • 14572

          #5





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          tada!

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          • jono
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2004
            • 617

            #6
            Interesting.

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            • MarkTiarra
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2002
              • 3833

              #7
              Originally posted by 2HousePlague





              2hp
              Indeed! A thousand words, so well spoken.

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              • V_RocKs
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                • Nov 2003
                • 32449

                #8
                Originally posted by 2HousePlague





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                • MarkTiarra
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 3833

                  #9
                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                  The sound of one brick clapping.
                  Heh. We could do a Maxim type thing where the best caption for a pic wins a prize. They get some funny shit there.

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                  • gandalfuy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 4686

                    #10
                    it looks convincent..
                    I'm not back.

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                    • kmanrox
                      aka K-Man
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 29295

                      #11
                      Mark is one of the most knowledgeable guys in this biz... altho he was also famous for the biggest porn-mullet at one time
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                      • BoyAlley
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 19714

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kmanrox
                        Mark is one of the most knowledgeable guys in this biz... altho he was also famous for the biggest porn-mullet at one time
                        Pics of the mullet?

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                        • MarkTiarra
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 3833

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kmanrox
                          Mark is one of the most knowledgeable guys in this biz... altho he was also famous for the biggest porn-mullet at one time
                          Oh ya had to bring up the mullet man!!!

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                          • The Ghost
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                            • Oct 2004
                            • 12188

                            #14
                            Always nice to see your business threads Mark.
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                            • detoxed
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 17798

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BoyAlley
                              Pics of the mullet?

                              sadly any old computer i try to bring these up on crashes...... a curse maybe?

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                              • bobbyjuly
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                                • Jun 2006
                                • 404

                                #16
                                You should throw your Tv away and do more posts. Great thread.
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                                • MarkTiarra
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 3833

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bobbyjuly
                                  You should throw your Tv away and do more posts. Great thread.
                                  LOL, thanks.

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                                  • bizarredollars
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                                    • Mar 2006
                                    • 1582

                                    #18
                                    A great helpul thread... thanks

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                                    • datatank
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 5471

                                      #19
                                      Mark where is your blog? YOU keep posting such good info.

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                                      • dissipate
                                        The Dirty Frenchman
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 8904

                                        #20
                                        Great stuff mark

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                                        • MarkTiarra
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 3833

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by datatank
                                          Mark where is your blog? YOU keep posting such good info.
                                          Hadn't thought of that. I do a blog of sorts for Photoshop tips and such though. Actually just finishing one now...

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                                          • gooddomains
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 10127

                                            #22
                                            bookmarked :-)

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                                            • datatank
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 5471

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MarkTiarra
                                              Hadn't thought of that. I do a blog of sorts for Photoshop tips and such though. Actually just finishing one now...

                                              I think I suggested it in the past

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                                              • MarkTiarra
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 3833

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by datatank
                                                I think I suggested it in the past
                                                Probably did but then again I can't remember what I did for lunch today. My guess is I'll post abnother tip in a month or so, you'll say the same thing... I'll say great idea! Then you'll post this link... =]

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                                                • Sid70
                                                  Downshifter
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 16413

                                                  #25
                                                  well done, thanks, Mark.
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                                                  • Fizzgig
                                                    Registered User
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 9649

                                                    #26
                                                    Thank you, Mark. My husband and I really find your paysite tips useful.
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                                                    • BobG
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 4274

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                      Mark is one of the most knowledgeable guys in this biz... altho he was also famous for the biggest porn-mullet at one time

                                                      Anyone got a pic of this infamous mullet? I can't imagine it.

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                                                      • SGS
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 5176

                                                        #28
                                                        Marks posts are solid gold GFY and make this place still worth reading.
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                                                        • MarkTiarra
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 3833

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SGS
                                                          Marks posts are solid gold GFY and make this place still worth reading.
                                                          Thanks man, that's a really nice thing to say.

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                                                          • andrej_NDC
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • May 2004
                                                            • 7760

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MarkTiarra
                                                            That's why a program like NATS is so good because you can setup individual billing options per webmaster and allow them to select one.
                                                            I have this option from the beginning, not sure if NATS even existed back then.

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                                                            • Tdog
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 2707

                                                              #31
                                                              good tip thanks.

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