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jonesy 06-18-2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM
There are a number of people I have seen grow into various success stories in this business. Not all, but MOST of them changed along the way. For the most part, they became assholes.

I'm glad I chose to be an asshole from day one. When I reach their level of success then I will either be the same asshole or maybe I will be a bit nicer.

or a bigger one - :1orglaugh

i see you mellowing with age yet maintaining your acerbic wit.

Aric 06-18-2006 03:56 PM

It sucks even more when they change and forget the people that helped them gain that success.

p1mpdogg 06-18-2006 04:04 PM

i have yet to hit my pinnacle.

im doing ok tho, and i am a total asshole on the boards, but off the boards im the opposite. im as laid back as they come and very easy to get along with. ask anyone has met me.

madawgz 06-18-2006 04:07 PM

forsure money changes people, you can do so many more things...

Relish XXX 06-18-2006 04:07 PM

If there is one person who I know will be a sucess story and not change is Boy Alley from www.alleybucks.com

I am a multimillionaire and I like be rude to people who are pathetic.

Relish XXX 06-18-2006 04:11 PM

You have guys who are nothing but think they are something because they are employed by people who are ie 12 Clicks. 12 Clicks thinks because he works for a guy who came up with some great ideas and made a shit load of cash that he is him. Same kind of thing goes for Baddog. Badbog is a gambler who is always chasing his losses. Without Goodgirl he would be fuck all.

Farang 06-18-2006 04:12 PM

I'm still a nice guy.............. but not very succesful... yet :upsidedow

Aric 06-18-2006 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
You have guys who are nothing but think they are something because they are employed by people who are

You also have people who would be nothing if not for their employees. Works both ways :)

12clicks 06-18-2006 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
You have guys who are nothing but think they are something because they are employed by people who are ie 12 Clicks. 12 Clicks thinks because he works for a guy who came up with some great ideas and made a shit load of cash that he is him. Same kind of thing goes for Baddog. Badbog is a gambler who is always chasing his losses. Without Goodgirl he would be fuck all.

two questions.
#1 who's my boss?
#2 wtf have you ever done in this business?

I'll wait.

CuriousToyBoy 06-18-2006 06:55 PM

I was the same person doing the same shit when I was on the bones of my ass.

The only thing that has changed is the global location and accents of people I am around.

;-)

CuriousToyBoy 06-18-2006 06:55 PM

50 Aaron Assholes.

;-)

baddog 06-18-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX
You have guys who are nothing but think they are something because they are employed by people who are ie 12 Clicks. 12 Clicks thinks because he works for a guy who came up with some great ideas and made a shit load of cash that he is him. Same kind of thing goes for Baddog. Badbog is a gambler who is always chasing his losses. Without Goodgirl he would be fuck all.


Chasing my losses?

It is funny to hear this kind of crap from some guy that calls my up drunk and crying one day because his girlfriend is leaving him, and the next day wants to pay me to take him on a personal tour of the Unite States.

You have always been a loser in my book, and always will be.

12clicks 06-18-2006 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy
I was the same person doing the same shit when I was getting boned in my ass.

say what?

12clicks 06-18-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Chasing my losses?

It is funny to hear this kind of crap from some guy that calls my up drunk and crying one day because his girlfriend is leaving him,

hahaha, and this loser called me nothing?


you gotta wonder about GFY scum who prattle on about things they don't know (even if it is who their girlfriend is banging):1orglaugh

baddog 06-18-2006 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
hahaha, and this loser called me nothing?


you gotta wonder about GFY scum who prattle on about things they don't know (even if it is who their girlfriend is banging):1orglaugh


What I couldn't believe is that he thought I gave a shit.

CuriousToyBoy 06-18-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks
say what?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nice quote change dude.

:thumbsup

12clicks 06-18-2006 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
What I couldn't believe is that he thought I gave a shit.

who is he?
I've never really noticed the moron before and I tend to still keep my eye out for people with a clue in this biz.

12clicks 06-18-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nice quote change dude.

:thumbsup

yeah, that whole "change the quote when it flips to page two" thing is great.
I made you look twice, didn't I?:winkwink:

baddog 06-18-2006 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
who is he?
I've never really noticed the moron before and I tend to still keep my eye out for people with a clue in this biz.


"He" is some multiple personality numbnut that would like us to all think that he is the richest person in all of England.

I think he sells condoms in those machines you find in the pubs of London . . . something like that.

Of course, he also tries to tell me that 3 or 4 different people post with this screen name. He used to go by Krome.

12clicks 06-18-2006 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
"He" is some multiple personality numbnut that would like us to all think that he is the richest person in all of England.

I think he sells condoms in those machines you find in the pubs of London . . . something like that.

Of course, he also tries to tell me that 3 or 4 different people post with this screen name. He used to go by Krome.

ah, a troll.
No wonder I don't know who he is.

reynold 06-18-2006 07:22 PM

Why choose to be bad if you can be good and then be loved by people around you? :)

MaddCaz 06-18-2006 07:22 PM

seems like porn would not be the business to adopt the asshole mentality. Fucking for everyone!

baddog 06-18-2006 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
ah, a troll.
No wonder I don't know who he is.


Not just a troll, the richest troll in all the land

RogerV 06-18-2006 07:47 PM

I've been in the biz 10 years now and try to always remain humble and nice..

mfps 06-18-2006 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
Not just a troll, the richest troll in all the land

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

J$tyle$ 06-18-2006 08:49 PM

The worst are people that have "power positions" like managers/supervisors in retail or airlines or credit card companies.

It's not that they have success or money - it's the little shit that they could do to affect your day in a good way but don't because they're so unhappy with their miserable peon fuckin' existences!

There's a guy, this little arrogant prick that manages the local Rite Aid by my house - It's a long story I won't get into here BUT I'd like to throw this douche a "blanket party" the "ski mask way" and teach him a nice lesson for fucking with my day!

I guess his punishment is having to go out and collect the wagons at closing. I saw him the other day and beeped my horn laughing and pointing at him

:winkwink:

CumPacker 06-18-2006 08:53 PM

66......

Grapesoda 06-18-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD
Sadly, it seems to be true.

I find that people treat friends, acquintances and other's in business with a certain level of equality and fairness... until they begin to gain a certain level of success, at which point they begin to not only value some people more.. but feel others aren't worth their time.

It's almost comical to see these people fully dismiss others simply because they don't have enough to offer them in return, $$ wise.

I've had issues with my personal success and friends . . I've found that most of the 'friends' I had, assumed that I would cover all cost, all the time, every time we went to dinner, lunch etc. . . expected me to loan $$ as needed etc . . and it was pointed out to me that I took away all their excuses to be losers too :)

and very many dropped me due to the nature of my work . . think about, they were pissed because I wouldn't let them come hang out while I shoot, wouldn't hook them up with the models . .

now the people that know what I do and don't know me personally don't make close associations with me and I don't push it . . the friend I have, I've had for 25 years and that's about it for me . . (he's a working musician, and even he doesn't really understand the nature of my work, like most of this forum has no concept of shooting sex from the comments I've seen and read) everyone else is just an association or someone I do biz with . . that's all.

(Just imagine a 51 year old heavily tattooed guy pulls up in a new caddy or vette, somewhat quiet and reserved, and you know that he gets his pole waxed by 18-20 year old hotties and gets paid for it . . How does that hit you? . . Makes people a little uncomfortable in my experience)

anyone I've tried to work with and be 'friends' with has gone 'side-ways' on me in a major way and I no longer allow anyone close that shoots . .

so have success changed me? you bet . . am I an asshole? . . nope . . . I just play it very close, staying focused on the work. I'm always polite and courteous to everyone . . that's called professionalism.

-bmb

edit: also I'm busy as hell . . work 70-100 hrs per week and spend the down time with my daughter . . .

SleazyDream 06-18-2006 11:52 PM

i saw myself change. i was happy with the changes though

tony286 06-18-2006 11:56 PM

it happens in all industries, I read books on Elvis,Jim Morrison and Frank Sinatra.Some of the most insecure people on the planet. I decided to stop reading biographies on entertainment people it was too depressing ,they had the world by the balls and never really saw it.

Zuss 06-19-2006 01:50 AM

The real question is: Do they succeed because they turn into assholes, or do they turn into assholes because of success? I guess it'S a bit of both ....

gooddomains 06-19-2006 01:59 AM

assholes galore

CuriousToyBoy 06-19-2006 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
yeah, that whole "change the quote when it flips to page two" thing is great.
I made you look twice, didn't I?:winkwink:

Yep.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dagwolf 06-19-2006 02:02 AM

You know, when all's said and done, I hope people will remember me as a gentleman, or at least a pretty nice guy.

NoComments 06-19-2006 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
There are a number of people I have seen grow into various success stories in this business. Not all, but MOST of them changed along the way. For the most part, they became assholes.

I'm glad I chose to be an asshole from day one. When I reach their level of success then I will either be the same asshole or maybe I will be a bit nicer.

Time will tell. :glugglug


I haven't changed. I was asshole BEFORE and remain asshole after and will piss with anybody, anywhere even though there are no money in it for me.
I cherish CONSISTENCY.

How is life, Aaron?

NoComments 06-19-2006 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
i saw myself change. i was happy with the changes though


oh puuuhleeze!

12 clicks changed and now drinks good wines,
while you still drink some crap!
;)

NoComments 06-19-2006 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
I've been in the biz 10 years now and try to always remain humble and nice..

I learned to be humble and nice from Fantasy Man...and this si why I am no longer in the business.

Stop being a prick! If Bill gates hasn't bought DOS for 50k and "conned" IBM into royalty agreement, he'd be some GFY poster now
;)

CumPacker 06-19-2006 02:12 AM

76........

Paul Markham 06-19-2006 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks
This subject comes up from time to time and its only ever an issue for the small guy who thinks he should be treated better.
"oh, we used to be friends and now you're a big shot with no time for me, boo hoo"

here's a clue, they're successful now and its much harder to find time for people who bring nothing to the table. This is a business, you want friends? spend more time on myspace.

People who gain success have done so by prioritizing their time. If you're getting less of their time, look at yourself for answers, not them.

I so rarely agree with you but on this I do.

This is business not a social club.

You need to be honest and reliable.

But like Aaron I was unbearable as a failure.

Hang on I'm still a failure. :1orglaugh

karlm 06-19-2006 02:59 AM

Cant stand stuck up people


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