50.........

This makes the most sense in my opinion as well. Better planning could have solved a lot of problems early on. I could clearly see how uncomfortible the girls were and how they were egged on to do more and more...
I hope both girls come out on top and do not hold a grude against each other.
I hope this works out in their favors for a long time.

damn... you like to drag things out don't you...

how great was the "backlash"? the thread was closed/moved in less than 8 hours... a few webmasters who may have dropped links have probably already replaced them, LOL. You make it sound like Melissa will never be able to work in this town again. :upsidedow and you also make it seem like you or Melissa don't deserve any of the blame. BullShit. All parties are to blame in this situation. Brooke should've walked away and clearly Melissa should've STOPPED fucking her when Brooke said "No" over and over again. I wonder why Melissa didn't let Brooke fuck her right back? Obviously Bubba is at fault too, and both Mayor & Yourself should make amends and target him & Sirius. Mostly likely you won't win a dime from each other, so all you have to gain is publicity by targeting one another... so if you're going to exploit this situation for publicity's sake, go after the real target: Bubba & Sirius. You'll find more than enough publicity for both of you to share.

And it's ridiculous that you don't want to share the content with all the solo girls to use on their own sites, because... and your reasoning is... that Melissa's content only appears on her exclusive site and we want to keep it that way... blah blah blah... but have you forgotten Bubba's video from this shoot featuring Melissa all over HIS site. ridiculous. why the fuck does a shock jock need to shoot a porn flick for? Why would anyone who manages a model even consider letting Bubba shoot free content for his own site? You say you're overly-protective of Melissa's content, yet it looks like Bubba was filming his own 55 minute version (for his site) the whole time your crew was filming yours. He's just a fucking satellite radio shock jock... there are kids on youtube & myspace that have more of an audience than he does... and you all let him take advantage of 3 models. pitiful.

you all should just kiss and make up, then move on. Brooke & Melissa should go on a vacation (together or separately) where they are pampered for a week so they can heal their wounds, both physical &/or psychological... nothing like massages, pampering, jewelry & shopping sprees to make a woman forget all her problems... my girlfriend swears by it.

(maybe even film the vacation and cross-promote each other, LOL, j/k)

good luck to everyone involved. hope you all wise up and work things out.

my rant is over... back to business for me. the only thing useful I got out of all this drama was the links that Steve provided and all the time I killed while reading this & riding my exercise bike :1orglaugh

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It's surprising to me that no one here knows Bubba - but I've lived in FL my whole life - he's been the most infamous "shock jock" in this area for as long as I can remember.

The largest FCC fine ever was against his show - so this is pretty standard everyday fare for him - he was fired from Tampa's 98 Rock in 2002 and due to an ongoing contract hasn't been able to return to radio until now.

I'm surprised he's part of Sirius's Howard101 'cuz he used to call Stern a pussy. :upsidedow And he's doing just what he's always done, creating controversy and making everyone talk about him. yea, he's a total a-hole, but you don't go on the show if you expect any different...

http://www.stpetersburgtimes.com/200...on_fires.shtml
TAMPA - Controversial talk show host Bubba the Love Sponge (aka Todd Clem) was fired Monday, less than a month after his station racked up the highest fine ever for indecency broadcasts.

The Federal Communications Commission proposed a $755,000 fine against Clear Channel Communications last month for segments of Clem's show that aired on four Florida radio stations between 6:30 a.m. and 9 a.m.

The segments - which aired in Callahan, Clearwater, Port Charlotte and West Palm Beach - included graphic discussions about sex and drugs that were "designed to pander to, titillate and shock listeners," the FCC said.

One segment featured the cartoon characters Alvin the chipmunk, George Jetson and Scooby Doo discussing sexual activities.

In 1998, Clem was fined $23,000 by the FCC for airing indecent material that included describing a member of his radio entourage receiving an enema.

Clem was acquitted in 2002 of animal cruelty charges stemming from the on-air slaughter of a feral pig. The animal was castrated and slaughtered during a show in February 2000.

In Tampa Bay, Clem's program ranks first in its time slot among listeners 18 to 54.

It isn't Clem's first brush with the chopping block. His first radio job was in Grand Rapids, Mich., and he bounced around stations in San Antonio, Texas; Chicago; Philadelphia; Milwaukee and Orlando, getting fired, by his count, at least six times along the way.

In a 1995 interview with the Times, he said of his past experiences:

"They just didn't appreciate me."

"Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD" --- especially at the cost of someone else's health, safety, or reputation.

He won't get any of my girl's on that show.

Steve Lightspeed

It takes a real man to make an apology for something you admit you've done wrong.

And it takes a real man to accept that apology.

Are you one? :2 cents:

Stick both of your heads together and go after the real suspect in this disaster, do the right thing.

Steve

>> d: Media horny pornactress and over exited guys in a radio studio without her manager / pimp / caretaker leads to this kind of shit.

what he said

Yep, if that happened to me, I'd be pissed off. Mayor made a mistake there.

But I have just two things to say

One, I doubt if more than 2 or 3 webmasters got off their asses to remove links, or add any for Brooke. They are busy and/or lazy and/or don't really care. Was your traffic and sales cut in half? Be honest here. A $50k promotion is barely enough to move traffic patterns nowdays.

Two, Brooke has been on Bubba's show before, so by not insisting on being present during the show, they gave evidence that they not only trusted Bubba, but they trusted YOU. When a model comes to me crying about the way she was treated, its easy to assume the worst. Do you really think it was fair for you to insist on being the only camera? That's a mistake on your part.

So you both made mistakes, and now need to stop being so stubborn. Bubba made the REAL mistakes, and left you two at war.

Put yourself in the other's shoes, and you'll see more clearly.

Steve Lightspeed

:thumbsup words of wisdom throughout this thread...

you should change your name to "Solomon Lightspeed." :)

gives me an idea... maybe, they should cut the video footage in half and split it... play part 1 on Melissa's site, and if members want part 2, they have to visit Brooke's site... should boost traffic for both parties and everyone walks away happier and with more money in the bank. it should generate a lot more than :2 cents:

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Most sensible reply I've seen on this silly drama so far. I'd definitely be aiming my attorneys at this Bubba jerk. He's bad news for our industry and makes us all look bad.

Why again didn?t Brooke just refuse to take part in this monster strap on? Doesn?t the model have the right to refuse doing something they are not comfortable doing in any situation.

Seems to me she didn?t exercise her right to saying NO!

The girls where both poorly managed and nor or them said NO! to the situation that presented itself. To blame someone else like BTLS or the show is one looking to shift the blame, both girls and parties involved should take responsibility for there actions.

:thumbsup :thumbsup Like I mentioned in the other thread "some people just don't get it"! We're all in this business to make money, if more people would look at those in the same niche or genre as potential "partners" rather than "competitors" they'd increase their bottom line literally overnight. But Steve, you really need to quite sharing this information with all our "competitors" :winkwink:

pretty much my sentiments exactly.

as well, i know what kinda traffic people see from that show, its not worth all this that is happening. he isn't howard and the listenership is not what people think it is. you will get more traffic from a hun listing than you will from that show.

finally someone that makes sense

fuck that slut melissa and that dirty whore brooke

i want steve!

steve nails it.

very true, I have learned it is not good to have an enemy in any business. We are all here to make money. Team up and work out a deal that would benefit everyone and not hurt everyone. have a coke and smile

Brian

Biggie, you're girl "hurt" by a post I made then removed then YOU REPOSTED??? Get real man, don't you have any guilt about using a video YOU ADMIT a model was physically hurt in to boost your company? I tried repreatedly to make things right. You've lowered yourself to bubba's level. What's your next big post going to be Biggie launches Melissiarapesbrooke.com FUCK YOU MAYOR?

You sir are a monster at heart.

06/14[16:15] Biggy: i only care about filming rights, i dont want melissa midwest on the top of brookeskyes website in a strap on scene.


06/15[17:25] Biggy: the only thing that matters is brooke was hurt


Public Biggie and private

Steve, you're wasting your time with baddog. His sole intention is to stick his nose so far up Melissa's ass, so the next he sees her he can take another picture with her with that little brown nose of his.

When that's all you have to live for, I guess it makes a little sense.

You know how I persuaded myself that this is fake drama?

Even after all this, and everyone at GFY pointing fingers at the host of this dumbass show - neither Biggy, Mayor, Melissa have yet to say anything even critical about the host's part in all of this and they keep pointing fingers at each other.

this is getting ugly and wish both parties would let it go. know one needs this type of publicity and bubba is the only one who benefited.
content for his show and content for his site? did he gets rights too?
the sites of these girls and Bubba did not match up except in away to expliot sexy solosite models to the next level

I love you.

As a former model who appeared on Blubber the Tub Sponge's show back when he was a Stern wannabe working in his daddy's radio station, I can tell you first hand the guy is a prick. I refused to do something on his show that he wanted me to do and he turned into Linda fucking Blair on me. So I can see where both models were coming from. Brooke doing something she really wasn't comfy with and Melissa being a tad rougher than she should have. They were under the control of Bubba.

I hate that this Melissa/Brooke issue has turned into such a huge deal but, I have to say that the way I see it and going from past experience, I blame Bubba. Since the two sides can agree only to disagree, perhaps it would be the best thing to channel all that resentment and anger towards the asshole that honestly deserves it. Go after Bubba.

Again, so someone tell me why neither Biggy nor Mayor is putting ANY blame on Bubba? (seriously, not even 0.01% of the blame)

Let's put 2 and 2 together here.

Fake drama.

Just wait.

I'm downloading the video Mayor posted before writing what I think.

Wait for what?

Did you read what I quoted of Honez's post?
Even watching the video, you can see that Bubba was in control of all this with his bullshit tactics. And yet you and Biggy don't say a damn thing about Bubba in your bickering at GFY? Who are you guys trying to protect? Your models or Bubba?

Why again didn?t Brooke just refuse to take part in this monster strap on? Doesn?t the model have the right to refuse doing something they are not comfortable doing in any situation.

Seems to me she didn?t exercise her right to saying NO!

The girls where both poorly managed and nor or them said NO! to the situation that presented itself. To blame someone else like BTLS or the show is one looking to shift the blame, both girls and parties involved should take responsibility for there actions.

Totally agree! It's so simple that is actually hurts the brain.
In these types of shoots everyone should have a chance to benifit from it. NOT just the one model who thinks she is better than the rest.

Bubba is what bubba is. Of course he's going to act like that and say what he says... DUH, it's RADIO. A good dj is going to try and paint a MENTAL image of what happening in the room so his listeners and SEE in there imagination what he WANTS them to see... This does not mean that the actions have to actually be taking place as he's screaming about them. The actualy people doing the scene are, or should have been in this case, ready for an experiance like this and known how to handle it.

yeah i agree with you too steve! they should sue him!

The part where bubba said "Shut up Brooke!" would have floored me... I'd have slapped that fat fuck in his mouth and got my girl and walked out... no fucking respect at all.. he should be thankful he has girls like these two on his show to carry his ass in ratings...

Without talent you are nothing... without content you are nothing.. I wish Bubba had a forum.. there would be some serious postings in regards to his disrespect for talent..

You can tell that Brooke did NOT want to do it, but he edged and edged her to keep doing it..

Who brought this dildo in btw? Was it in the package NEW or was it old? I thought I saw some other girls with a similar strap on in some other pics, hopefully this piece is not just getting passed around..

Nice Job and I agree with you 100%....and the Silacone Sisters Look Awesome !!

wtf are you talking about? Did you watch the video? Who the hell cares about his listeners?

Read my post again.

We already established that Bubba is an 'idiotic-Howard-Stern-wannabe-who-wants-to-be-famous-by-being-a-dickhead' personality. 99.99% of GFY members agree to this. That's a given. However, this does not mean Mayor, Brooke, Biggy, Melissa can't blame (even if it's partially) the idiot for this. The 0.01% of GFY people that has yet to send a single bad-mouthing blame toward Bubba is... yes, Biggy and Mayor.

Seriously, it looks like they are trying to protect Bubba from a fallout on his show which makes me believe that this is fake drama.

Heaven knows this Bubba character doesn't sound like someone I want to appear to be supporting, but if someone sells you an obviously cheap pair of shoes for many times what they are worth, most people would grudgingly admit he is a good salesman. From what I understand, Bubba didn't suddenly undergo a personality transplant: everyone there should have expected him to pressure them for something over the top.

That's not an excuse for him, but when all is said and done, he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head. Everyone was there to somehow benefit from the situation and played along: even Mayor and Brooke. And I'm sorry to come down against the girl who was apparently hurt, but she has to be responsible for what she allows to be done to her. If she is going to work in a tough business, she is going to have to learn to stand up for herself.

The "no, no, no" thing... maybe it looked different in the room. If so and Brooke was obviously in discomfort, everyone there deserves nailing to a wall. But to me the video looks exactly like lots of others in which the participants are faking passion, so I think people here are jumping to too many conclusions. The only person, whatever his reasons (the trust thing etc), who it seems certain was not doing his job was "Mayor".

I haven't figured out from all this who agreed the poor deal Brooke was given in the first place, but to be left alone during filming, after coming along with someone she expected to support her... that simply shouldn't have happened.

:2 cents: Steve and I must have something in common because that is the exact word for word way I would handle it if it had anything to do with me!

sweet post Steve!

CarlyMoore

So if a woman was raped in a parking lot on the way to her car, is she responsible for her own actions? Is she to be held accountable, for being less physically strong than the man who raped her?

Responsibility for onesself can only go so far. Sad, but true. There IS only so much that a woman can do, to defend herself. And when you're on your back with your legs spread and someone is inbetween them (no matter how gently) then you are at that person's mercy. How exactly was Brooke supposed to prevent it from happening? She had her hand on the dildo, trying to stop it from hurting her more, and that didn't work. She tried to say "No" and that didn't work, in fact she was told to "Shut up" Tell me how Brooke was supposed to "get up" and "leave" with Melissa between her legs, the back of the couch at one side of her, and guys on the other side of her. She couldn't go anywhere! She did what she could, and it was ignored.

Great points Steve! 100% agreement!

I think they are trying to protect future appearances and more publicity from the show. I bet both the guys would go on that show again in a heartbeat.

:ugone2far That's even more fucked up on their part if its true.

You can't sue a shock jock for being shocking. The court would rule that he wasn't at fault because guests on his show should expect him to push the limits.

I think that some stupid choices were made on both parts.

I think its safe to say that this was handled poorly from the getgo.

What if a woman agreed to have sex with a man in the parking lot, had the sex, then several days later accused the man of raping her to the man's family, business associates, etc?
Should she be accountable for her accusations?

And I think that Biggy/Mayor are protecting Bubba because
a) MelissaMidwest is already booked for another appearance on Bubba
b) Mayor claimed a crime took place on Bubba's show and Bubba's lawyers are well aware of this drama. :2 cents:

Who said anything about suing the show? That was not my point. I'm not saying take the show/Bubba to court - it's obvious that no one's going to win by taking the show to the court.

I'm saying stop pointing fingers at each other for even one second to realize that it was 1) a mistake to go on the show, 2) the host was completely oblivious to the well-being of their respective models, and 3) to never do anything with Bubba ever again for the sake of their models. As far as I read, not Mayor nor Biggy has said any of this. That is ridiculous.

Sexual assault isn't 'shocking', it is criminal.

well said

Nice our Selena Spice is #16 :winkwink:

and I agree with ya Steve :thumbsup