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  • Faustino
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2002
    • 56

    #1

    US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison

    Operators of commercial websites with sexually explicit content would have to post warning labels on each offending page or face imprisonment under a new proposal in the US Senate....
    ...Senator Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican, who joined eight members of his party in introducing the bill on Tuesday, said: "The increase in internet use has given sexual predators new ways to prey on children. This bill, among other things, is intended to shut down these opportunities, and severely punish the degraded individuals who are involved in the sexual exploitation of our youth."

    http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39159571,00.htm"]US Senate proposals: Label smut or face prison
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  • marketsmart
    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
    • Dec 2004
    • 20419

    #2
    i am all for labeling but it wont do shit to cut down on online predators..

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    • Tom_PM
      Porn Meister
      • Feb 2005
      • 16443

      #3
      I wouldnt mind that one bit personally. But they darn well better define it specifically. Do they want it ON the image? ON the page which contains the image AND the image? Do we use title 2256 for the definition? Etc etc.
      43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151

        #4
        If the warning is ignored on the first full page "enter-exit" the whole concept is worthless.

        Like a warning on each cigarette vs the package.

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        • GatorB
          The Demon & 12clicks
          • Oct 2001
          • 18208

          #5
          They are so clueless. Yes commerical websites want kids( who have no credit cards ) to look at porn.

          How come THIS is good enough for ALCOHOL companies?

          http://www.busch.com/busch.html

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          • MrJackMeHoff
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2004
            • 4569

            #6
            Originally posted by GatorB
            They are so clueless. Yes commerical websites want kids( who have no credit cards ) to look at porn.

            How come THIS is good enough for ALCOHOL companies?

            http://www.busch.com/busch.html
            Well duh busch is run by bush. They just add the c to throw us off.

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            • GatorB
              The Demon & 12clicks
              • Oct 2001
              • 18208

              #7
              Originally posted by PR_Tom
              I wouldnt mind that one bit personally. But they darn well better define it specifically. Do they want it ON the image? ON the page which contains the image AND the image? Do we use title 2256 for the definition? Etc etc.
              They want it on EACH page. So enter warning page then porn. The when the surfer click the NEXT page on the tour he get yet another warning page then he can go on to page 2. Then he clicks next and gets another warning page then he can click to get to page 3 and so on.

              Also they are talking about COMMERCIAL sites. Well if someone has already paid to be a member didn't they prove they were 18? So therefore why would a warning page be necessary? Would a TGP be considered a COMMERCIAL page? I bet you could fight that out in court. Also I'm sure the hun is going to obey this law. When are these dipshits going learn the USA doesn't control the internet.

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              • Mr. Soul
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2005
                • 1633

                #8
                Originally posted by Token Clueless GFY Republican
                Republican's aren't bad for our industry!

                Originally posted by Faustino
                on each offending page
                Notice the language?

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                • JD
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22651

                  #9
                  i have no problem labeling things but jesus....c'mon EVERY PAGE with a warning page? WTF

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                  • Mr. Soul
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 1633

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GatorB
                    They want it on EACH page. So enter warning page then porn. The when the surfer click the NEXT page on the tour he get yet another warning page then he can go on to page 2. Then he clicks next and gets another warning page then he can click to get to page 3 and so on.

                    Also they are talking about COMMERCIAL sites. Well if someone has already paid to be a member didn't they prove they were 18? So therefore why would a warning page be necessary? Would a TGP be considered a COMMERCIAL page? I bet you could fight that out in court. Also I'm sure the hun is going to obey this law. When are these dipshits going learn the USA doesn't control the internet.

                    I don't think they're talking about warning pages, I think they mean ever page has to have a warning on it. As in, you're going to have to put a warning about your tours and on every TGP gallery page.

                    I haven't followed this closely but that's the impression I got.

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                    • DaddyHalbucks
                      A freakin' legend!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 18975

                      #11
                      Parents need to watch their kids on the net.

                      There is no substitute for parenting.
                      Boner Money

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                      • bdld
                        $100,000
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 11452

                        #12
                        maybe they mean labeling as in http://icra.org/ if so i'm all for it.

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                        • notabook
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 9748

                          #13
                          Finally, the first sensible thing I've seen the Senate do in years! Too bad John Ashcroft still wasn't around to see... it would have brought a tear to his eye, it's just so beautiful! Now finally we can once again realize the ultimate truth: Nothing is at the fault of the parent's of any child in the world, it is always somebody else problem, usually either video game makers, MTV, or pornography. Thankfully the Senate has now seen the light and is going to put a staple (come on, it ain't a nail... yet) in the coffin for the third big evil!

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                          • GatorB
                            The Demon & 12clicks
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 18208

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                            I don't think they're talking about warning pages, I think they mean ever page has to have a warning on it. As in, you're going to have to put a warning about your tours and on every TGP gallery page.

                            I haven't followed this closely but that's the impression I got.
                            What is the point of putting a warning just above a pic of some chick sucking a dick? They want a warning page BEFORE any porn can be seen. Each page that has porn on it has to have a warning page BEFORE it. This is why this law would be overturned in court. It's excessive. ONE warning page is enough.

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                            • Pornwolf
                              Drunk and Unruly
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 22712

                              #15
                              I'm all for this as well. C'mon guys, you can't really complain about something we know we should all do anyway.
                              I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                              Webair, bitches.

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                              • GatorB
                                The Demon & 12clicks
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 18208

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                I'm all for this as well. C'mon guys, you can't really complain about something we know we should all do anyway.
                                On EVERY page?

                                Take a TGP for example. A warning page before entering the tgp. Then when the surfer clicks a link he gets another warning page before he sees the gallery. And every gallery he clicks he has to see a warning page FIRST.

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                                • Tom_PM
                                  Porn Meister
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 16443

                                  #17
                                  I think the icra/PICS method should be good if they'd adopt it. Plus, I believe it can be setup at server level to send the "adults only" tag(s) on each request.
                                  If this was standardized, then esessentially all we SHOULD have to do is have our servers send the "warning", and it would be transparent to us.
                                  Plus SE's could read it (if they felt like it) and only include it if the users preferences were set to "dont censor".

                                  That could all make too much sense though, it's government after all
                                  43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                  • wyldblyss
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 5779

                                    #18
                                    These people are obviously brain dead. When a kid is looking for online porn because his parents are not monitoring him and he comes across a page that says you have to be 18 to enter, do they really think the kid is going to go...OMG, I have to be 18!!!! I will leave this page NOW". The kid is going to go, yeah, yeah, I'm 18 and head right on it.

                                    I however can find no relation to labeling a site ADULTS only and the "degraded individuals preying on our youth" One has nothing to do with the other.

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                                    • BobG
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 4274

                                      #19
                                      A label? oh yeah, thats gonna fix everything. "Hey, I know, lets put labels on all the pornsites and then all of our kids can be happy and start playing with slinky again and the world can go back to being a good place." What a fucking joke. I think the naked girl with the dick in her mouth pretty much informs you that the content is of an adult nature.

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                                      • GatorB
                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 18208

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                        These people are obviously brain dead. When a kid is looking for online porn because his parents are not monitoring him and he comes across a page that says you have to be 18 to enter, do they really think the kid is going to go...OMG, I have to be 18!!!! I will leave this page NOW". The kid is going to go, yeah, yeah, I'm 18 and head right on it.

                                        I however can find no relation to labeling a site ADULTS only and the "degraded individuals preying on our youth" One has nothing to do with the other.
                                        Also not to mention that fact this is an AMERICAN law and no non-American sites wil follow this rule so what is the whole point?

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                                        • Tom_PM
                                          Porn Meister
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 16443

                                          #21
                                          Yeah exactly, wyldblyss. It's a scarlett letter they're talking about when you boil it down. But it's classic government. Appease the votes, dont upset the business money. Maybe it's not all bad.
                                          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                          • dynastoned
                                            mmm yeah!
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 5061

                                            #22
                                            this proposal can lick my balls. along with whatever other ingenious ideas they come up with.

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                                            • Tom_PM
                                              Porn Meister
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 16443

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dynastoned
                                              this proposal can lick my balls. along with whatever other ingenious ideas they come up with.
                                              Thats fine, just warn us first before posting the pics
                                              43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                              • czarina
                                                Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 10752

                                                #24
                                                the government will always take the path with the most complications.

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                                                • dynastoned
                                                  mmm yeah!
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 5061

                                                  #25
                                                  i blame irresponsible parents fuck the rest. give your kid a football or a jump rope and tell them to go play outside so we don't have these problems anymore. too many lazy idiots in this country anyway. if you wouldn't let your child watch HBO after 10PM then you shouldn't let them use the internet unsupervised. plain an simple.

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                                                  • nestle
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                    • 647

                                                    #26
                                                    There's gotta be enough senators that look at internet porn (not that they'll publicly admit it) so that such proposals don't go through. Seriously.

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                                                    • G-Rotica
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                      • 4258

                                                      #27
                                                      I never hid shit from my kids. Caught my daughter surfing gay porn when she was 14, I guess she wanted to see what a penis looked like. I sat her down, explained to her it wasn't bad, she just wasn't old enough to see it yet. All was good. My kids are very well adjusted. Don't do drugs, don't run with gangs. Maybe had something to do with the fact that I raised them instead of nintendo.

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                                                      • czarina
                                                        Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 10752

                                                        #28
                                                        the parents will never get in trouble for what thier children do.

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                                                        • solonline
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 718

                                                          #29
                                                          Another fuking great idea from the Usa! So glad I live in a liberal part of the world that dont give a flying fuk what you watch so long as its 18plus and walks on 2 legs!!

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                                                          • L-Pink
                                                            working on my tan
                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                            • 39151

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                                                            i have no problem labeling things but jesus....c'mon EVERY PAGE with a warning page? WTF

                                                            They can't mean INSIDE the members area where nothing can be accidently stumbled across ...... do they?

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                                                            • JD
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 22651

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by solonline
                                                              Another fuking great idea from the Usa! So glad I live in a liberal part of the world that dont give a flying fuk what you watch so long as its 18plus and walks on 2 legs!!
                                                              so no amputee porn then.

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                                                              • Mr. Soul
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2005
                                                                • 1633

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                What is the point of putting a warning just above a pic of some chick sucking a dick? They want a warning page BEFORE any porn can be seen. Each page that has porn on it has to have a warning page BEFORE it. This is why this law would be overturned in court. It's excessive. ONE warning page is enough.

                                                                I don't think there is a point. I don't think these people are very smart. That's just what it sounds like to me based on what this article says.

                                                                would have to post warning labels on each offending page
                                                                On, not before.

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                                                                • Pornwolf
                                                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 22712

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by PR_Tom

                                                                  That could all make too much sense though, it's government after all
                                                                  Yeah Tom, that makes waay to much sense. That would mean folks would have to use all the safeguards that have been in place for the last 5 years. It would never work.
                                                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                                                  Webair, bitches.

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                                                                  • notabook
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2006
                                                                    • 9748

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by G-Rotica
                                                                    I never hid shit from my kids. Caught my daughter surfing gay porn when she was 14, I guess she wanted to see what a penis looked like. I sat her down, explained to her it wasn't bad, she just wasn't old enough to see it yet. All was good. My kids are very well adjusted. Don't do drugs, don't run with gangs. Maybe had something to do with the fact that I raised them instead of nintendo.
                                                                    You should have just pulled out your cock and showed her what it looked like and told her she could touch it if she wanted to. That's how parents are supposed to teach their children, jackass.

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                                                                    • Juilan
                                                                      Sultan of Swing
                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 15141

                                                                      #35
                                                                      So google images will have to put up a warning sign? I love it.
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                                                                      • GatorB
                                                                        The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 18208

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Mr. Soul
                                                                        On, not before.
                                                                        Yes explain that to the feds when they take you to jail for violating the law. If the law purpose is to prevent kids from seeing porn then placing a warning on the SAME page as the porn is stupid. I'm quite certian someone will point this out before this gets voted on.

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                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 18208

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Juilan
                                                                          So google images will have to put up a warning sign? I love it.
                                                                          Well Google is exempt from 2257 for some reason. I'm sure they have enough $$ to get an exemption from this law too.

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                                                                          • MrPinks
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 1767

                                                                            #38
                                                                            More bullshit and hoops to jump through. Did everyone read the full article. 15 years imprisonment? That's crazy. That part that is fucked up is "severely punish the degraded individuals". Sounds like they would get off on ruining the lives of webmasters.

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                                                                            • scottybuzz
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • May 2006
                                                                              • 14799

                                                                              #39
                                                                              jeeeez just what we all need more fucking hoops to jump through.. too hoops to many for some
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                                                                              • FetishTom
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 341

                                                                                #40
                                                                                As a matter of curiosity why are Americans so obsessed with banning porn - or trying to ban porn or at least make life difficult?

                                                                                What gives?

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                                                                                • MrPinks
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                  • 1767

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  The other night I was seriously pondering why America is soo obsessed with sex predators. Seriously, it is all we hear about now. It is a horrible crime but it is getting a little sickening when it is exploited by the news and shows like Dateline and Donny Douche.

                                                                                  Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                                  As a matter of curiosity why are Americans so obsessed with banning porn - or trying to ban porn or at least make life difficult?

                                                                                  What gives?

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