In response to Mayor and Biggy, regarding Brooke and Midwest

[galleryseek]

this is from an outsiders perspective, i don't know either "parties"..

but...

if you're #1, willing to get fucked by a bigger dildo than you're used to, that's your choice.

if you're #2, not willing to simply "remove" yourself from the position to avoid further pain, that's your fault.


bitch about it then, not after the situation when you could have put your foot down and controlled it.

:P

[Alphonso]

sig spot

[Spunky]

Melissa needs my monster dong in her ass

[hova]

good point, but I'm waiting for everybody's full story

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

this is from an outsiders perspective, i don't know either "parties"..

but...

if you're #1, willing to get fucked by a bigger dildo than you're used to, that's your choice.

if you're #2, not willing to simply "remove" yourself from the position to avoid further pain, that's your fault.


bitch about it then, not after the situation when you could have put your foot down and controlled it.

:P

That's my perspective as well and that's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading all the drama

[MikeVega]

there was a lot of pressure in that room ..from the guys ... I can see a girl trying to get through it based on that alone ...as a model if Melissa noticed it was hurting her she also could have stepped up and stopped .. I think it was just a bad deal all around ...

[StuartD]

Damn, I'm such a loser... I have no idea what's going on

[beemk]

couldnt agree with you anymore.

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Damn, I'm such a loser... I have no idea what's going on

- too much drama on this board there's no way to keep up with it all!

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

- too much drama on this board there's no way to keep up with it all!

I'm telling you!! I step away for a little while to get some work done and all hell breaks loose!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

this is from an outsiders perspective, i don't know either "parties"..

but...

if you're #1, willing to get fucked by a bigger dildo than you're used to, that's your choice.

if you're #2, not willing to simply "remove" yourself from the position to avoid further pain, that's your fault.


bitch about it then, not after the situation when you could have put your foot down and controlled it.

:P

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Wanton

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

Dean has shot a few girls in his day and he agrees with him.

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by MikeVega

there was a lot of pressure in that room ..from the guys ... I can see a girl trying to get through it based on that alone ...as a model if Melissa noticed it was hurting her she also could have stepped up and stopped .. I think it was just a bad deal all around ...

Seriously!! Look at the backlash that Lia got when she tried to set up boundaries on a radio show (was it the same one?)

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by Wanton

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

Jeeeez Brian - just a little harsh don't you think?

[vidvicious]

Originally Posted by Wanton

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

Bravo Bravo .. it had to be said

[sonofsam]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Damn, I'm such a loser...

at least you finally admit it

[Elli]

Good post, Wanton. That's one of the reasons I don't do radio shows. The ones I have been on have spun way out of control and I ended up looking like the "no fun" girl because I wouldn't bounce on the guy's lap or do whatever stupid things to make them laugh. Sure, you end up doing things just to be entertaining and to show you're a good sport. Most models are used to doing what they're told/asked without questions. Separate the model from her usual "handler" and she'll have no idea what to say yes or no to.

*this is not meant to denigrate models at all. I understand the mentality and the situation, as I've been there myself.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by Wanton

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

eh i might have agreed with what you said if you left out the part:

you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

that's the thing, girls shouldn't be "models" if they don't have the correct mentality, and certainly shouldn't if you can equate their behaviors/personalities to children on a playground.

i haven't been in the content business, but it IS a serious business with professionals behind the scenes, and IN the scenes, that's a given. and i think it is completely unprofessional of a girl to simply give into pressure and not voice herself if she is uncomfortable.

it's a valuable lesson she will have learned. this drama should probably not be taking place.

[Pornwolf]

Ok, I haven't followed any of the drama regarding this but now I'm interested. First let me ask, where are the pics, and second, which thread should I read first?

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by sonofsam

at least you finally admit it

oh look, sos out of context yet again. Shocking!

[Phoenix]

as a model you get paid for your time and various certain jobs
that doesnt mean you are entitled to hurt the bitch. get a clue man
she is in pain...you stop
you want to shoot her in pain? pay her for it...tell her..this will hurt..you wont like it..but you will make XXXX..then she is informed.

this attitude of if she is a model you can throat fuck her and shit on her face needs to be kicked to the curb

you want to do some hardcore shit that hurts...let her know..let her decide beforehand...and even so..if she asks to stop...you best stop...especially if you got it on tape

fuck..lets see the tape

now im all pissy

[Thurbs]

easy brad if u need someone to talk to, im there bro.

[spacedog]

oohh... what did I miss!! Melissa & Brooke & a bigger Dildo??

Where's the pics......

[xxxdesign-net]

how big was the dildo anyway?

[MikeVega]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Seriously!! Look at the backlash that Lia got when she tried to set up boundaries on a radio show (was it the same one?)

it was the same show and bubba pushes the girls to go as far as he can get them ... Being on satellite radio he can push it pretty far ...plus the fact that he sells memberships to bubbaraw.com to see it on the web. it takes a strong girl to get through that show ...

[spacedog]

Originally Posted by spacedog

oohh... what did I miss!! Melissa & Brooke & a bigger Dildo??

Where's the pics......

I just saw Mayor's thread... pretty fucked up..

[ne0]

need video for better decisions.

[Hunter_ST]

bubba just wants to sell memberships to his own site... as far as he's concerned, it's like shooting porn without paying the girls anything for it.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

eh i might have agreed with what you said if you left out the part:



that's the thing, girls shouldn't be "models" if they don't have the correct mentality, and certainly shouldn't if you can equate their behaviors/personalities to children on a playground.

i haven't been in the content business, but it IS a serious business with professionals behind the scenes, and IN the scenes, that's a given. and i think it is completely unprofessional of a girl to simply give into pressure and not voice herself if she is uncomfortable.

it's a valuable lesson she will have learned. this drama should probably not be taking place.

tell ya what . . you go shoot about 1500 models and work with about 350, then come back and talk about models with me . . . . what's next with you anyway? goverment officials won't steal/lie/cheat because they have honor?

[MikeVega]

Originally Posted by Hunter_ST

bubba just wants to sell memberships to his own site... as far as he's concerned, it's like shooting porn without paying the girls anything for it.

he pays them with some pretty good exposer ...

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

eh i might have agreed with what you said if you left out the part:



that's the thing, girls shouldn't be "models" if they don't have the correct mentality, and certainly shouldn't if you can equate their behaviors/personalities to children on a playground.

i haven't been in the content business, but it IS a serious business with professionals behind the scenes, and IN the scenes, that's a given. and i think it is completely unprofessional of a girl to simply give into pressure and not voice herself if she is uncomfortable.

it's a valuable lesson she will have learned. this drama should probably not be taking place.

I have not shot as many models as Wanton and therefore am probably not qualified to make a statement about this subject but I will anyway. I agree 100percent with your post

[abyss_al]

Originally Posted by Wanton

only someone who has not shot models extensivly would ever make a comment like that . . once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

shoot 250+ models a year for about 6 years then you 'MIGHT' be qualified to make statments about model persectives and model thought patterens however only if you're a perceptive person yourself on any levels . .

which I wonder about when you make broad sweeping statements about something you have no understanding of

i'd have to disagree... a model knows what fits, and what doesn't... and they all know when to say NO

[Pornwolf]

Originally Posted by abyss_al

i'd have to disagree... a model knows what fits, and what doesn't... and they all know when to say NO

Exactly. They aren't the smartest apples in the bunch either so I would take any drama relating to them with a grain of salt.

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by abyss_al

i'd have to disagree... a model knows what fits, and what doesn't... and they all know when to say NO

You mean...we actually agree on something?

[beemk]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Exactly. They aren't the smartest apples in the bunch either so I would take any drama relating to them with a grain of salt.

yeah no shit, to start all this drama based on what one of your models told you is nuts.

[Amysworld]

Originally Posted by Wanton

once you spend time with these models you'll understand that models are like children in some respect and children do get hurt on the playground.

lol @ comparing models to children.

Classic.

[Amysworld]

Originally Posted by Elli

Good post, Wanton. That's one of the reasons I don't do radio shows. The ones I have been on have spun way out of control and I ended up looking like the "no fun" girl because I wouldn't bounce on the guy's lap or do whatever stupid things to make them laugh. Sure, you end up doing things just to be entertaining and to show you're a good sport. Most models are used to doing what they're told/asked without questions. Separate the model from her usual "handler" and she'll have no idea what to say yes or no to.

*this is not meant to denigrate models at all. I understand the mentality and the situation, as I've been there myself.

I agree with you there. Just like these girls who go on Howard Stern. You KNOW what you are getting yourself into when you sign up for such things.

[GigoloJustin]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Seriously!! Look at the backlash that Lia got when she tried to set up boundaries on a radio show (was it the same one?)

Someone backlashed Lia19?! They should be shot =)

[LexiLexxx]

Where's the video?

I would have to see it, before saying anything...but it didn't seem as if Mayor's $$$ people, would be shut out. They might have backed out.

[Major (Tom)]

man, all you softcore guys are giving porn a bad name.

lol

Duke

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by MikeVega

it was the same show and bubba pushes the girls to go as far as he can get them ... Being on satellite radio he can push it pretty far ...plus the fact that he sells memberships to bubbaraw.com to see it on the web. it takes a strong girl to get through that show ...

Thats awesome.
Long Live Bubba!!

Duke