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  • DatingGold
    $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
    • Feb 2003
    • 13185

    #1

    Official Response for "The Demon" from DatingGold.com

    Normally I don't respond to crap on the boards but I felt like it today.

    There are several reasons why your account was terminated.

    Here are the two main ones.

    #1. You committed fraudulent and deceptive methods to generate leads.
    #2. You have bogus information in your account information

    We would be glad to tell everyone the lowlife tactics you used to generate free joins, but then we would just open the floodgates to more cheaters. It's only $112 but those can add up and it more the principle of not paying cheaters.

    If you'd like we could switch you to the revshare program for payout, in which case your commission would be $0. However you would probably try to scam that now too.

    When you try to cheat the system, sometimes you get away with it and other times you don't. You should just quit all your little AOL games and fake email confirmations.

    I'd advise no one to take his traffic.
    9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!



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  • pornstar2pac
    Omaha Hi/Lo
    • Nov 2003
    • 17380

    #2
    glad we got the story now.



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    • woj
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      • Jul 2002
      • 47882

      #3
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      • L-Pink
        working on my tan
        • Mar 2005
        • 39151

        #4
        Professional post, not a surprising answer.............

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        • The Demon
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2003
          • 7336

          #5
          I used deceptive methods? Oh really now.. Since when were these methods deceptive, and if they were deceptive, why did you tell me to go ahead and see how it goes? Why are you trying to cover your ass for something YOU approved, that wasn't even deceptive. It's not my fault you convert like shit for some traffic, and instead of switching me to Revshare you shut off my account and called me a cheater. That makes you not only a liar but shady as well.. So stop playing the victim for something you approved, because you've already lost a lot of credibility. I'm sure these people would LOVE to know the "lowlife tactics" I used too... This should be a laugh.. There's a difference between doing something professionally and doing what you did which was not only ridiculous, but unprofessional..
          Last edited by The Demon; 06-14-2006, 01:55 PM.
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          • Trent Edison
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Jun 2003
            • 6132

            #6
            look at my cyan sig

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            • DatingGold
              $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
              • Feb 2003
              • 13185

              #7
              Originally posted by The Demon
              I used deceptive methods? Oh really now.. Since when were these methods deceptive, and if they were deceptive, why did you tell me to go ahead and see how it goes? Why are you trying to cover your ass for something YOU approved, that wasn't even deceptive. It's not my fault you convert like shit for some traffic, and instead of switching me to Revshare you shut off my account and called me a cheater. That makes you not only a liar but shady as well.. So stop playing the victim for something you approved, because you've already lost a lot of credibility. I'm sure these people would LOVE to know the "lowlife tactics" I used too... This should be a laugh.. There's a difference between doing something professionally and doing what you did which was not only ridiculous, but unprofessional..
              I'll go ahead and put you on revshare and send you your check for $0. There problem solved, now move on to your next program. I have a feeling we'll be seeing you claiming someone else ripped "you" off in the future.



              PS..... You didn't deny the bogus account info LOL.
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              • loverboy
                When it rains, it pours
                • May 2003
                • 20609

                #8
                hope things get sorted out soon, goodluck guys

                im signing off

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                • The Demon
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 7336

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DatingGold
                  I'll go ahead and put you on revshare and send you your check for $0. There problem solved, now move on to your next program. I have a feeling we'll be seeing you claiming someone else ripped "you" off in the future.

                  Translation: We have no proof of you cheating, I don't want people to know I approved what you did so I will act negligent in hopes that people don't suspect something...

                  Way to go killer, you sure proved your credibility on that one..

                  Oh and why in the world would I give you any of my real information when you pay via epassporte? Smart thinking their poindexter.
                  Greed is Good

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94735

                    #10
                    Sig placement...

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                    • pocketkangaroo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 8452

                      #11
                      Lets hear the tactics you used. I mean if they aren't bad, shouldn't be a big deal.

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                      • The Demon
                        Confirmed User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7336

                        #12
                        Ask the esteemed leader of DG.. IT should be interesting the crap he makes up to cover his own ass.
                        Greed is Good

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                        • L-Pink
                          working on my tan
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 39151

                          #13
                          "Oh and why in the world would I give you any of my real information when you pay via epassporte? "



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                          • The Demon
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 7336

                            #14
                            Hey pink, am I required to give them my information? No seriously am I? I didn't think so.. Thanks.
                            Greed is Good

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                            • WiredGuy
                              Pounding Googlebot
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 34512

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Demon
                              Oh and why in the world would I give you any of my real information when you pay via epassporte? Smart thinking their poindexter.
                              These companies need to know who they're paying, just having an epassporte card doesn't exclude you from being anonymous. The IRS is pretty strict on maintaing records of whom you're paying and last I checked, DatingGold is american.
                              WG
                              I play with Google.

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                              • The Demon
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 7336

                                #16
                                Hmmm I suppose, but that isn't reason enough to call me a cheater for no apparent reason. Maybe it was wrong of me to not include my real information but that changes absolutely nothing.
                                Greed is Good

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                                • SomeCreep
                                  :glugglug
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 26118

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Demon
                                  Hey pink, am I required to give them my information? No seriously am I? I didn't think so.. Thanks.
                                  Signing up with fake info is shady to say the least. If you're legit, then you have no reason to hide your info from them.

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                                  • L-Pink
                                    working on my tan
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 39151

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                    Hmmm I suppose, but that isn't reason enough to call me a cheater for no apparent reason. Maybe it was wrong of me to not include my real information but that changes absolutely nothing.
                                    You are a real piece of work !

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                                    • KRosh
                                      So Fucking Outlawed
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 5114

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Demon
                                      Translation: We have no proof of you cheating, I don't want people to know I approved what you did so I will act negligent in hopes that people don't suspect something...

                                      Way to go killer, you sure proved your credibility on that one..

                                      Oh and why in the world would I give you any of my real information when you pay via epassporte? Smart thinking their poindexter.

                                      Why do you insist on being proven right or wrong on the boards?

                                      He clearly said that if he reveals the tactics used, it can potentially open up room for others to cheat his program.

                                      The best thing to do is work this out off the boards. As for credibility of Dating Gold, I don't think the $112 you claim he owes you is going to ruin his reputation. Dating Gold pays out hundreds of thousands of dollars monthly to webmasters.

                                      Now let's end this fiasco!!!
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                                      • The Demon
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 7336

                                        #20
                                        Pink stay out of logical conversations, they are above you... And I don't consider it shady knowing I don't want anyone on the internet, especially in the adult industry, wanting my information. Again, it is irrelevant in this particular problem.
                                        Greed is Good

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                                        • WiredGuy
                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 34512

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                          Hmmm I suppose, but that isn't reason enough to call me a cheater for no apparent reason. Maybe it was wrong of me to not include my real information but that changes absolutely nothing.
                                          Its enough reason to withhold your payment, but based on DG's claims, it would seem you were doing something fraudulent.
                                          WG
                                          I play with Google.

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                                          • The Demon
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 7336

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by KRosh
                                            Why do you insist on being proven right or wrong on the boards?

                                            He clearly said that if he reveals the tactics used, it can potentially open up room for others to cheat his program.

                                            The best thing to do is work this out off the boards. As for credibility of Dating Gold, I don't think the $112 you claim he owes you is going to ruin his reputation. Dating Gold pays out hundreds of thousands of dollars monthly to webmasters.

                                            Now let's end this fiasco!!!
                                            THe point is these tactics were not shady nor fraudulent, and that he knew full well what I was doing, I've seen sponsors act negligent when something happens MANY times, this isn't something new. I just think it's a pathetic thing to do.
                                            Greed is Good

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                                            • pocketkangaroo
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2005
                                              • 8452

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                              Hey pink, am I required to give them my information? No seriously am I? I didn't think so.. Thanks.
                                              If they are American, and you are American, there are many tax reasons why they need your actual information.

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                                              • baddog
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Demon
                                                Ask the esteemed leader of DG.. IT should be interesting the crap he makes up to cover his own ass.

                                                Why don't you tell us? Also, what does epass have to do with giving bogus info on yourself?

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                                                • FreeHugeMovies
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                  • 14141

                                                  #25
                                                  Signing up with fake info can get you terminated just for that. Very shady business.

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                                                  • The Demon
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 7336

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                    If they are American, and you are American, there are many tax reasons why they need your actual information.
                                                    Perhaps but I've never promoted a sponsor that's ever threw a hissy fit because I didn't use my real information. This is just a petty excuse and a stall tactic..
                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                    • The Demon
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 7336

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      Why don't you tell us? Also, what does epass have to do with giving bogus info on yourself?
                                                      Uh read where I said I would prefer to not share my information, especially with the adult industry. I don't see how you can consider that a shady tactic.. And I'd like DG to tell you what I did since he's the one making the false accusations.
                                                      Greed is Good

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                                                      • lazycash
                                                        Troll Patrol
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 15214

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                        Hey pink, am I required to give them my information? No seriously am I? I didn't think so.. Thanks.
                                                        Moron, of course you are, your income needs to be correctly reported to the IRS.
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                                                        • woj
                                                          <&(©¿©)&>
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 47882

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                          Pink stay out of logical conversations, they are above you... And I don't consider it shady knowing I don't want anyone on the internet, especially in the adult industry, wanting my information. Again, it is irrelevant in this particular problem.
                                                          That's how shit works around here, if you don't want to give out your personal info, form a cooperation, get a PO Box, etc and use that for your online businesses...
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                                                          • The Demon
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                            • 7336

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by lazycash
                                                            Moron, of course you are, your income needs to be correctly reported to the IRS.


                                                            And for the second time for the reading comprehension impaired(you), I have never had this problem with any other sponsors, I report my stuff normally.. Just stop typing.,
                                                            Greed is Good

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                                                            • Brandon99
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2005
                                                              • 2214

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                                              Perhaps but I've never promoted a sponsor that's ever threw a hissy fit because I didn't use my real information. This is just a petty excuse and a stall tactic..
                                                              Hissy fit eh?
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                                                              • The Demon
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 7336

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by woj
                                                                That's how shit works around here, if you don't want to give out your personal info, form a cooperation, get a PO Box, etc and use that for your online businesses...
                                                                I agree.....
                                                                Greed is Good

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                                                                • RawAlex
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 9465

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you didn't provide valid indormation for your account, then you didn't legally enter into the contract to get paid, so you are SOL. How hard is that to figure out?

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                                                                  • L-Pink
                                                                    working on my tan
                                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                                    • 39151

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                    Pink stay out of logical conversations, they are above you... And I don't consider it shady knowing I don't want anyone on the internet, especially in the adult industry, wanting my information. Again, it is irrelevant in this particular problem.

                                                                    How's this for logic:

                                                                    The IRS requires a SS# or Federal Tax# on record for any pay-outs that decrease a companies own taxable income. DUH .......

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                                                                    • L0rdJuni0r
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                                      • 5883

                                                                      #35
                                                                      LOL @ 112 bucks....
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                                                                      • lazycash
                                                                        Troll Patrol
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 15214

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                        THe point is these tactics were not shady nor fraudulent, and that he knew full well what I was doing, I've seen sponsors act negligent when something happens MANY times, this isn't something new. I just think it's a pathetic thing to do.
                                                                        Why not let us all decide if they are shady or not, give us a link to the site that generated the leads and tell us what methods you were using. Let's see if you do, put up or shut up.
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                                                                        Its crazy..."

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                                                                        • The Demon
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                          • 7336

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                          If you didn't provide valid indormation for your account, then you didn't legally enter into the contract to get paid, so you are SOL. How hard is that to figure out?

                                                                          Yet another one who completely misses the point. Read the thread, they didn't pay me because of any of that shit, although they did use it as a bullshit stall tactic, they accused of somehow cheating or being fraudulent.. Jesus, it's like I have to repeat myself.
                                                                          Greed is Good

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                                                                          • baddog
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                            Uh read where I said I would prefer to not share my information, especially with the adult industry.
                                                                            I would terminate you and not even offer the revshare option

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                                                                            • stickyfingerz
                                                                              Doin fine
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 24984

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                              Translation: We have no proof of you cheating, I don't want people to know I approved what you did so I will act negligent in hopes that people don't suspect something...

                                                                              Way to go killer, you sure proved your credibility on that one..

                                                                              Oh and why in the world would I give you any of my real information when you pay via epassporte? Smart thinking their poindexter.
                                                                              Umm for tax information? Doesnt Dating Gold Require a w9 form?

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                                                                              • The Demon
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 7336

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                Why not let us all decide if they are shady or not, give us a link to the site that generated the leads and tell us what methods you were using. Let's see if you do, put up or shut up.

                                                                                Why not let you decide? Because you have shown to have no common sense throughout the argument, and because it was DG who accused me of something, therefore the onus is on them to prove it. Learn to argue.
                                                                                Greed is Good

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                                                                                • KRosh
                                                                                  So Fucking Outlawed
                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                  • 5114

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  As a business owner (inthe US) you are required by law to report payments made from your company to other entities. Whether a business or an individual acting as an independent contractor . I am surprised more businesses do not "require" a w-9 to be submitted on file. The IRS is not an entity that any business owner should take lightly.

                                                                                  That said, If you do not give your real information, they have "legal" right not to pay you!
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                                                                                  • The Demon
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                    • 7336

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                    I would terminate you and not even offer the revshare option

                                                                                    Good thing your opinion isn't relevant in this argument, nor do you get the point.
                                                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                                                    • The Demon
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 7336

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by KRosh
                                                                                      As a business owner (inthe US) you are required by law to report payments made from your company to other entities. Whether a business or an individual acting as an independent contractor . I am surprised more businesses do not "require" a w-9 to be submitted on file. The IRS is not an entity that any business owner should take lightly.

                                                                                      That said, If you do not give your real information, they have "legal" right not to pay you!

                                                                                      And here's another one that misses the point.. For the 5th time, read the thread as to WHY I didn't get paid.. Not a crutch or an excuse.
                                                                                      Greed is Good

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                                                                                      • WiredGuy
                                                                                        Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 34512

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                        And for the second time for the reading comprehension impaired(you), I have never had this problem with any other sponsors, I report my stuff normally.. Just stop typing.,

                                                                                        Those sponsors are likely not american or are being misled by the false information. Nevertheless, companies like DG are required to have your correct information for taxation purposes.
                                                                                        WG
                                                                                        I play with Google.

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                                                                                        • lazycash
                                                                                          Troll Patrol
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 15214

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                          And for the second time for the reading comprehension impaired(you), I have never had this problem with any other sponsors, I report my stuff normally.. Just stop typing.,
                                                                                          So you're saying you signed up with false info to your other sponsors?
                                                                                          "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                                          Its crazy..."

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                                                                                          • L0rdJuni0r
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                                                            • 5883

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                            Perhaps but I've never promoted a sponsor that's ever threw a hissy fit because I didn't use my real information. This is just a petty excuse and a stall tactic..


                                                                                            so your saying you use fake info with other sponsors?
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                                                                                            • The Demon
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 7336

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                              Those sponsors are likely not american or are being misled by the false information. Nevertheless, companies like DG are required to have your correct information for taxation purposes.
                                                                                              WG
                                                                                              This I understand and THAT was my fault, but that doesn't explain why I didn't get paid. Some people(most of GFY) don't get simple facts.
                                                                                              Greed is Good

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                                                                                              • L0rdJuni0r
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2004
                                                                                                • 5883

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                So you're saying you signed up with false info to your other sponsors?



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                                                                                                • The Demon
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 7336

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by lazycash
                                                                                                  So you're saying you signed up with false info to your other sponsors?

                                                                                                  Wow, you derived that all by yourself? Could it be that I said I don't want anyone in the adult industry to have my information and your delayed intelligence added 2 and 2 together? Yes, I did.... And I don't consider it shady, but maybe I should have done what wiredguy said. You still as usual, miss the point.
                                                                                                  Greed is Good

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                                                                                                  • lazycash
                                                                                                    Troll Patrol
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 15214

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                    Why not let you decide? Because you have shown to have no common sense throughout the argument, and because it was DG who accused me of something, therefore the onus is on them to prove it. Learn to argue.
                                                                                                    Lol, we all knew you didn't have the balls to show us how you were promoting DG. You're just a whiney little kid who got caught and wants to shovel all the blame back on DG. If your promoting methods were not shady or fraudulent then prove it to us or shutup.
                                                                                                    "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                                                                    Its crazy..."

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