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Holly Lez! 06-12-2006 01:22 PM

I love Kathleen but she didn't party with me so I will have to correct her!

xxxjay 06-13-2006 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex
You make content (occash movies). They get it for free (user submitted/ripped aka stolen) Guba sells it for a fee with out giving you a penny. You then go to party with them.

Thats whats he is saying

Well, I think Guba is kind of fucked up. We've had to have our stuff taken off there before. Either way...I got a nice table at The Cabana Club and a few bottles out of Guba...everyone else just got their content stolen.

Better than you are gonna do with a lawyer.

:2 cents:

ssp 06-13-2006 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Well, I think Guba is kind of fucked up. We've had to have our stuff taken off there before. Either way...I got a nice table at The Cabana Club and a few bottles out of Guba...everyone else just got their content stolen.

Better than you are gonna do with a lawyer.

:2 cents:

I don't know you but I'm laughing so hard over this. You don't even realise you paid for your own fucking tab!! Classic! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Love Sex 06-13-2006 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Well, I think Guba is kind of fucked up. We've had to have our stuff taken off there before. Either way...I got a nice table at The Cabana Club and a few bottles out of Guba...everyone else just got their content stolen.

Better than you are gonna do with a lawyer.

:2 cents:

you said guba had your stuff on there, did you seriously talk to your lawyers about it. My lawyer would rip them apart on copyright infringement

Love Sex 06-13-2006 02:37 AM

Hey you might win big and get your own residence at the cabana club.

JFK 06-13-2006 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
LOL...where is the landslide of hate? This isn't what I was expecting.

the Hatorade must be running low.............

Linkster 06-13-2006 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe
cough (easynews)

Or just about any ISP - they all have access to the newsgroups - and with a copy of Agent you could have a 30G pod filled in 24 hrs :)

BTW - Hiya SiMpLe - LTNS - you going to Vegas?

From what Ive seen on Guba (actually guba doesnt handle Adult stuff anymore - its their daughter site now) most of the content they obtain from the newsgroups is stuff put out there by program owners - there are a few exceptions where the kids rip a members area but if I remember correctly if you contact Guba they will take it down with no questions - doesnt get it off the newsgroups - but then Guba doesnt police(or own) the newsgroups

xxxjay 06-14-2006 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Linkster
Or just about any ISP - they all have access to the newsgroups - and with a copy of Agent you could have a 30G pod filled in 24 hrs :)

BTW - Hiya SiMpLe - LTNS - you going to Vegas?

From what Ive seen on Guba (actually guba doesnt handle Adult stuff anymore - its their daughter site now) most of the content they obtain from the newsgroups is stuff put out there by program owners - there are a few exceptions where the kids rip a members area but if I remember correctly if you contact Guba they will take it down with no questions - doesnt get it off the newsgroups - but then Guba doesnt police(or own) the newsgroups

What Linkster said.

DWB 06-14-2006 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
We do create content. LOL

Traitor no. But come on now Jay.... picking up content from Phil (and other companies) does not count as shooting content.

If you actually shot it yourself, dealt with the drama or risks involved with shooting the content on your sites, you would not be so friendly to people who jack content.

For example, those black cats who Phil sent to Thailand to shoot for his Asian creampie line, that you just made a site from... if those guys get arrested there, they go away for a long, long, long time in a prison that is worse than Hell. Ask those guys, or Phil, if it's ok for Guba to do what they do with their content. :2 cents:

DWB 06-14-2006 02:38 AM

BTW... today is a hate free day.

woj 06-14-2006 02:41 AM

50........

seeric 06-27-2006 05:28 PM

traitor!!!!!!!

CE_Rashaan 06-27-2006 05:52 PM

Yo...this one is good Jay. I'll tell you this, we make content and we have DMCA'd Guba a couple of times and they take the stuff down. We would sue (like others have suggested) but to tell you the truth we are tired of suing people. There is nothing that gets us heated more then our shit being stolen. Oh yeah FYI, I be approachin muthafuckas about that shit, so beware all you theives. But the guys at Guba are good peeps (waz up Bart and Kathleen) and they buy a healthy amount of shit from us for their other sites (skinvideo and videobox) and I understand how usenet works. So are you a trader, no. But dude you don't make content so like others have said it's hard to understand. The guys at Guba know how most of us feel about the site and I think that is why they are doing other things. Don't be surprised if Guba aint around pretty soon. Oh yeah I almost forgot..... "who let your black ass in here?!" LOL

Linkster 06-28-2006 04:13 AM

Actually - Guba doesnt handle adult stuff anymore - they have it under their skinvideo site now - as far as Guba going away - dont think that will happen now that a major mainstream studio/distributor has signed with them to distribute their stuff

nico-t 06-28-2006 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404
traitor no, if you dont create content its hard to understand.

i dont create content but its not exactly rocket science to see why so many peeps hate guba

hova 06-28-2006 04:48 AM

it sure doesn't, never had any problems with what they do

Rolo 06-28-2006 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
Yo...this one is good Jay. I'll tell you this, we make content and we have DMCA'd Guba a couple of times and they take the stuff down. We would sue (like others have suggested) but to tell you the truth we are tired of suing people. There is nothing that gets us heated more then our shit being stolen. Oh yeah FYI, I be approachin muthafuckas about that shit, so beware all you theives. But the guys at Guba are good peeps (waz up Bart and Kathleen) and they buy a healthy amount of shit from us for their other sites (skinvideo and videobox) and I understand how usenet works. So are you a trader, no. But dude you don't make content so like others have said it's hard to understand. The guys at Guba know how most of us feel about the site and I think that is why they are doing other things. Don't be surprised if Guba aint around pretty soon. Oh yeah I almost forgot..... "who let your black ass in here?!" LOL

Basicly why we will seen an influx of YouTube/GUBA sites... they will count on the apathy from the content owners :2 cents:

belle2003 06-28-2006 05:32 AM

never never never
 
of course not..any party is justifiable. visit www.mythrillworld.com

xxxjay 06-28-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
Yo...this one is good Jay. I'll tell you this, we make content and we have DMCA'd Guba a couple of times and they take the stuff down. We would sue (like others have suggested) but to tell you the truth we are tired of suing people. There is nothing that gets us heated more then our shit being stolen. Oh yeah FYI, I be approachin muthafuckas about that shit, so beware all you theives. But the guys at Guba are good peeps (waz up Bart and Kathleen) and they buy a healthy amount of shit from us for their other sites (skinvideo and videobox) and I understand how usenet works. So are you a trader, no. But dude you don't make content so like others have said it's hard to understand. The guys at Guba know how most of us feel about the site and I think that is why they are doing other things. Don't be surprised if Guba aint around pretty soon. Oh yeah I almost forgot..... "who let your black ass in here?!" LOL

Yeah, they will take shit down if you ask them to. They did for us.

Rolo 06-28-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Yeah, they will take shit down if you ask them to. They did for us.

But you do not feel like they should compensate you for the "free ride" they got with your content on their servers making them money?

If not, then would mind others using your content, until you find them and ask them to take it down?

JMM 06-28-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
Yo...this one is good Jay. I'll tell you this, we make content and we have DMCA'd Guba a couple of times and they take the stuff down. We would sue (like others have suggested) but to tell you the truth we are tired of suing people. There is nothing that gets us heated more then our shit being stolen. Oh yeah FYI, I be approachin muthafuckas about that shit, so beware all you theives. But the guys at Guba are good peeps (waz up Bart and Kathleen) and they buy a healthy amount of shit from us for their other sites (skinvideo and videobox) and I understand how usenet works. So are you a trader, no. But dude you don't make content so like others have said it's hard to understand. The guys at Guba know how most of us feel about the site and I think that is why they are doing other things. Don't be surprised if Guba aint around pretty soon. Oh yeah I almost forgot..... "who let your black ass in here?!" LOL

One of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on GFY. This being GFY, that says alot.

CE_Rashaan 06-28-2006 04:54 PM

Ridiculous? I hope you have some other sites because that content on your homepage is ridiculous....ridiculously garbage.

CE_Rashaan 06-28-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rolo
But you do not feel like they should compensate you for the "free ride" they got with your content on their servers making them money?

If not, then would mind others using your content, until you find them and ask them to take it down?


I would like nothing more then to get compensated for the "free ride" from everybody that steals our shit, but it just isn't that easy especially with foreign webmasters. If anybody would like to make a percentage and try I have a global list of people to collect from.

JMM 06-28-2006 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
I would like nothing more then to get compensated for the "free ride" from everybody that steals our shit, but it just isn't that easy especially with foreign webmasters. If anybody would like to make a percentage and try I have a global list of people to collect from.

GUBA is not foreign, they are right there in California, so why don't you start with them? After you are done selling out your customers of course.

VicD 06-28-2006 06:01 PM

Not again....

CE_Rashaan 06-28-2006 06:53 PM

First off, as you can see by my nuber of posts that I don't post a lot so pleae save the drama for someone else. Second as I said in my earliel post we already handled our Guba issue so I don't have to go after them. Third I have never sold anybody out EVER in my life, so get your fuckin facts straight before you speak about me!

CE_Rashaan 06-28-2006 07:00 PM

Funny how you have nothing to say about that ridiculously garbage content....One yourself, you need a hug

JMM 06-28-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
Funny how you have nothing to say about that ridiculously garbage content....One yourself, you need a hug

I do quite well with my content, thank you for your concern.

Oh, and in case anyone is interested, I keep ALL my customer information confidential.

CE_Rashaan 06-28-2006 07:26 PM

Hahahahaha....what customers? Be real!

JMM 06-28-2006 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
Hahahahaha....what customers? Be real!

Ok noob, have a nice day.

SilentKnight 06-28-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
Either way...I got a nice table at The Cabana Club and a few bottles out of Guba...everyone else just got their content stolen.

Guba didn't buy those bottles.

We did.

Rolo 06-28-2006 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatrixRashaan
I would like nothing more then to get compensated for the "free ride" from everybody that steals our shit, but it just isn't that easy especially with foreign webmasters. If anybody would like to make a percentage and try I have a global list of people to collect from.

As stated GUBA is located in the USA, and so are many of the other big business operations who makes a profit from your content, without paying you.

2006 and beyond you will see an influx of YouTube/GUBA sites using your content. If you do nothing, then your content will be spread to a point, where no one wants to buy it. There is no other way than to sue these operations until they learn that only publishing legal content is a good idea.

"Perfect 10" is active about protecting their content - is your content less value than theirs?

xxxjay 06-29-2006 02:39 AM

I'm really dissapointed at the hate level of this poll...I will not stop bumping it till I hit 80% traitor.

You guys are slippin'.

Rolo 06-29-2006 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
I'm really dissapointed at the hate level of this poll...I will not stop bumping it till I hit 80% traitor.

You guys are slippin'.

And I will not stop bumping this until everyone see how cheap you can get away with stealing from adult content producers/owners :)

I wonder if GUBA is also paying Hollywood with free beers? :1orglaugh

marketsmart 06-29-2006 06:11 AM

:sleep.... oh.. where to begin.. actually, i wont... people, you need to learn to adapt to the times or you are going to be gone in the near future...

do you realize that these sharing sites and p2p are evolving as we speak. even if you take them all away tomorrow, the future is going to be private sharing/trading networks. think about this, how will you stop people from sharing your content when you never know they even have it and are trading it? and, the sharing will all be done via proxy...

i predict that in less than 10 years, you will be able to join a private sharing network and get any music, video, or any content that matter, for free...

so either learn to protect your content or find ways to capitalize on the changing times... :2 cents:

seeric 06-29-2006 06:12 AM

it will only let me vote once.


traitor!!!!!!!


ROFL.

Rolo 06-29-2006 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart
so either learn to protect your content or find ways to capitalize on the changing times... :2 cents:

True, and that is why I suggest content owners/producers to stop being ignorant about what GUBA, AEBN and others are doing.

Protect your content - monetize it... do not give it away for free beers :2 cents:

jayeff 06-29-2006 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay
I'm really dissapointed at the hate level of this poll...I will not stop bumping it till I hit 80% traitor.

If it makes you feel better, okay you are a traitor. But truth be told, what you will most likely turn out to be is irrelevant.

The first 10 years of post-BBS online porn have generated some nice businesses. Lots of ordinary guys have been able to buy big houses, exotic cars and the rest. And some may still be around in another 10 years. But a lot will disappear and very few will progress much further. That's the way every industry develops and the next phase will see growth coming from corporate operations. They will make the money we have seen until now seem like small change.

AEBN and Guba are showing signs that they might be part of that future. It certainly seems to be their direction and if they prove to have what it takes, it won't make any real difference whether we work with them or not. Hence my comment about irrelevance, which is true of all of us, not just you.

seeric 06-29-2006 07:41 AM

jayeff is 100% right unless this industry starts to take responsibility for its own future. i know several people that are 100 times smarter than anyone in adult that make ridiculous amounts of money in ways that many of us haven't even thought of. there are people out there now, that don't post on boards, that don't go to shows that are shellacking the internet and "balling" in the real sense.

adult has no organization, won't unite, and will be extinct eventually.

i wonder to myself sometimes why i even waste my breath arguing and caring about an industry that doesn't even care about itself.

weak things are hunted, killed and eaten. thats just the way it is.


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