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DVTimes · 03-18-2005, 06:22 PM

DarkJedi · 03-18-2005, 06:23 PM

yes. now shut the fuck up and log off.

wjxxx · 03-18-2005, 06:24 PM

pornguy · 03-18-2005, 06:25 PM

No it is not the end of web based. How many people want to explain to their wife what the box is, Or to the frineds when they show up???

I think that most porn is viewed by people alone, and only a small % is done with another person.

w0rstluk · 03-18-2005, 06:26 PM

read the end, it costs $180 to buy and $30/month

Project-Shadow · 03-18-2005, 06:28 PM

ONline is cheaper, the majority of people will prefer online I believe.

DVTimes · 03-18-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rstluk

read the end, it costs $180 to buy and $30/month

Yes, but with websites you get a few small clips, with this dvd quality porn direct to your tv.

£180 is not a bad price (about £90). I could see this doing bit time. The only thought is, would the boxes work outside the usa. Say the UK, as in power problems.

Babagirls · 03-18-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yes. now shut the fuck up and log off.

DVTimes · 03-18-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Project-Shadow

ONline is cheaper, the majority of people will prefer online I believe.

I this is so, then DVD porn would not sell. And as we know its sells big time.

This I see gives you the quality of dvd porn and ease of web porn.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 03-18-2005, 06:35 PM

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XPays · 03-18-2005, 06:35 PM

i think it's the providers like directv and comcast etc that will see this eat into their market share if it passes the giggle test that is

Rex · 03-18-2005, 06:36 PM

I think its the privacy of a personal computer that provide the allure to most porn viewers. Quick clip here, fast pic there, etc.

Trax · 03-18-2005, 06:37 PM

the percentage of people who will buy something like this is so small... it ain't even worth talking about.

axelcat · 03-18-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi

yes. now shut the fuck up and log off.

DVTimes · 03-18-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the percentage of people who will buy something like this is so small... it ain't even worth talking about.

"today shipped more than 2,000 adult TV set-top boxes to subscribers who pre-ordered the service during the product?s soft launch. "

They said that only a few people would buy dvd players.........

XPays · 03-18-2005, 06:42 PM

anyone can output from a cheap laptop to their tv and one can bundle the subscription to their site with instructions etc. and a lot of competition could spring up overnight - if the product passes the giggle test.

it will be interesting to see if people adopt this new twist on high def web content.

w0rstluk · 03-18-2005, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by allanuk

Yes, but with websites you get a few small clips, with this dvd quality porn direct to your tv.

£180 is not a bad price (about £90). I could see this doing bit time. The only thought is, would the boxes work outside the usa. Say the UK, as in power problems.

the quality of online porn continues to get better. So in this case that is not a good argument, DVD quality porn can already be found at deluxepass, videoz, etc. Those cost like $29.99 a month but you don't have to pay $180 for basically a 'porn' machine.

As internet2 and better quality broadband connections get better i think there will be a seamless integration between your internet connection + tv.

hydro · 03-18-2005, 06:57 PM

despite xtv and columbia starting thier $1 for 12 porn dvds online porn will be the most popular since its so easy to hide from friends/family/wives/girlfriends

Adult-biz · 03-18-2005, 07:11 PM

In the UK (and throughout most of the western world I would imagine) porn is readily available on cable / satellite TV after the evening watershed.

There is countless softer type porn channels here and for the hardcore stuff, it is not difficult to find European viewing cards etc.

Porn on the TV has been available for years and the online porn business continues to grow as we all know.

Nothing to worry about.

tungsten · 03-18-2005, 07:14 PM

i doubt it will affect anything

Jeff aka NIGHTfall · 03-18-2005, 07:17 PM

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David Koenig, owner of XTV parent company Holio.net, told XBiz that ?90 percent [of the boxes] have been turned on and are up and running, and subscribers are already using them,? adding that the most watched channel so far is ?the midget channel.?

just a punk · 03-18-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the percentage of people who will buy something like this is so small... it ain't even worth talking about.

Agreed. Don't see a reason to be worried about.

Aric · 03-18-2005, 07:19 PM

I see it going the way of WebTV personally.

But hey, what do I know

teksonline · 03-18-2005, 07:32 PM

30.00 a month and 200 bucks to watch doc johnson advertisements... lol NOT

BRISK · 03-18-2005, 07:36 PM

Another allanuk thread that leads me to believe he's an idiot

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

No it is not the end of web based. How many people want to explain to their wife what the box is, Or to the frineds when they show up???

I think that most porn is viewed by people alone, and only a small % is done with another person.

"In this world, nothing is certain but death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin

Obstacles are very much present, but if you think outside the box and are willing to take a risk, then the rewards will be that much sweeter!

BTW, we ran some analysis on Dvdsforabuck's user base, you'd be surprised to know the % of couples who watch porn together + the amount they spend per month

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rstluk

read the end, it costs $180 to buy and $30/month

w0rstluk,

You need to make a splash somewhere along the price range. It's not impossible to blow out boxes ala Satellite dish marketing .. every move is a calculated step

Shoehorn! · 03-18-2005, 08:09 PM

Midget porn is the most popular so far?

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

i think it's the providers like directv and comcast etc that will see this eat into their market share if it passes the giggle test that is

Hit me up on ICQ

Aric · 03-18-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Midget porn is the most popular so far?

Certainly my favorite!

"Don't Believe the Hype" -- Some rapper

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the percentage of people who will buy something like this is so small... it ain't even worth talking about.

good marketing = people talk about things ain't worth talking about? Or how about good marketing = people who say they shouldn't talk about things that shouldn't be talked about because they're too small to even talk about so how is it that it's even being talked about?

I've gone cross eyed

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

anyone can output from a cheap laptop to their tv and one can bundle the subscription to their site with instructions etc. and a lot of competition could spring up overnight - if the product passes the giggle test.

it will be interesting to see if people adopt this new twist on high def web content.

We're waiting to see it happen ...

brutus · 03-18-2005, 08:18 PM

END OF DAYS ARE COMING... GET YOUR CADDY WHILE YOU CAN!

JSA Matt · 03-18-2005, 08:20 PM

It's a great concept but I honestly can't see it taking off, let alone taking over.

Ron Bennett · 03-18-2005, 08:29 PM

The box seems redundent ... why should someone pay $180 for another box when their computer can perform most of the same functions, especially since the feeds themselves are already internet based.

Even if the box is the best thing since sliced bread, one of the biggest stumbling blocks is that people want to keep their porn surfing on the downlow - most folks certainly don't want a porn box sitting on top of their TV.

With all that said, it's probably a nice niche product to push ... but certainly no threat to the on-line adult industry - in my view, the biggest threats are more regulation and consolidation, such as cable companies offering hardcore XXX adult, including gay content, on-demand.

Ron

FabianC · 03-18-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Midget porn is the most popular so far?

Believe it!

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=445759

Paul Markham · 03-19-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rstluk

read the end, it costs $180 to buy and $30/month

Stop thinking like a free surfer, thats a steal. A lot will sign up for it and not even think about the price.

DVD = $25 for 2 hours.
XTV = $45 for a month, breaking the $180 up over 12 months.

Remember we are selling to the guys with money, the guys without are free surfers who leech the system.

I'm not worried, the more pron sold means the more porn needed.

FTVGirls · 03-19-2005, 12:26 AM

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Paul Markham · 03-19-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

the percentage of people who will buy something like this is so small... it ain't even worth talking about.

I said the exact same thing.

About Internet porn.

OzMan · 03-19-2005, 12:33 AM

I would willingly pay $30 a month, not for set top porn, but for a way to make news thread diarrhea go away on GFY

Paul Markham · 03-19-2005, 12:37 AM

10 years ago the porn magazine and video industry laughed at the Adult Net, I know I was one of those laughing

, now they have joined in and made it harder for some of those already here.

It's amazing how in a fresh, young, go ahead industry there are so many backward thinking people. This is a new delivery method for porn which will make a slice of the porn consuming market sit up and take notice.

Don't think like King Canute, he's the one who thought he could turn back the tide. Remember all the content providers telling me 3 years ago that my style of porn would never take off the Net?

w0rstluk · 03-19-2005, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

Stop thinking like a free surfer, thats a steal. A lot will sign up for it and not even think about the price.

DVD = $25 for 2 hours.
XTV = $45 for a month, breaking the $180 up over 12 months.

Remember we are selling to the guys with money, the guys without are free surfers who leech the system.

I'm not worried, the more pron sold means the more porn needed.

I think you are misunderstanding my point here. I mentioned the price because surely that will be a major selling point for some of these buyers. Relative to what is CURRENTLY available online, ala www.deluxepass.com, www.videoz.com, etc it isn't such a good deal. Like I said before, the quality of online streaming/downloadable is just going to get better. Theoritically you could download all the 1000+ DVDS from deluxepass and burn them to dvds for your $29.99/month. I mean, if you are really into porn that much

Manowar · 03-19-2005, 12:45 AM

that must be pretty bad if someone visiting your house recognises the set top box

Tat2Jr · 03-19-2005, 12:50 AM

I'm not worried about "internet porn", but I do think that through the TV is the way we will be viewing at the very least 'internet" porn, and mainstream vod, but most likely your average basic surfing too. check email... maybe a check the score of a game or two. Before I got into this business I would have ABSOLUTELY paid $30/month for non stop porn. Could have probably gotten at least 2 of my ex girlfriends to help pay for it. I dunno, I kinda like the idea of these boxes. I'm going to be looking into offering content to them this year (I think there's 3 of these companies now). It's not like time warner is wanting to hear from me, so I say more power to 'em... but NO I'm not worried.... I just like to go with the flow.

Bosco4y2k3 · 03-19-2005, 12:58 AM

That brings up a good point. What do you think the ratio of porn subscribers that hide the porn to the ones that don't is. It is typically not socially acceptable to view porn so I'm guessing alot of people hide the fact they subscribe to it. My guess is it's also the reason so many people view ie redirects so badly...kinda hard to hide when your homepage goes straight to a porn site even if you LOVE the site it brings you to.

KRL · 03-19-2005, 01:00 AM

webcrawler · 03-19-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by allanuk

Yes, but with websites you get a few small clips, with this dvd quality porn direct to your tv.

£180 is not a bad price (about £90). I could see this doing bit time. The only thought is, would the boxes work outside the usa. Say the UK, as in power problems.

This won't go to countries who consider pornography illegal.

SykkBoy · 03-19-2005, 01:03 AM

will it take over Internet porn? no
but it will be a nice little niche market. too many of you think like webmaster instead of surfers....kind of ironic considering the ratio of webmasters to surfers here ;-)

Remember, there are a lot of people out there tired of being fucked with, having their credit cards jacked, email spammed and just burned way too much to trust another paysite ever again. With this, they know exactly what they are getting. Think of how many people are still on dialup and also consider how many are just sick and tired of virii, trojans, adware, spyware, cocksuckerware, etc.

I know a couple amongst my friends who will never ever pay for porn again due to being fucked with so much and a couple have already ordered their XTVs

Bosco4y2k3 · 03-19-2005, 01:10 AM

I agree, it'll be a nice niche market for those who've had it with the paysites already and those that are seriously into porn. Jacking ccs is what the big guys do best so I doubt it will affect the internet market much at all.

Corona · 03-19-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosco4y2k3

It is typically not socially acceptable to view porn so I'm guessing alot of people hide the fact they subscribe to it.

I think this will really take off if they add a channel for stock quotes or sports betting lines.

Gives people a non-porn excuse to have a box.

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Adult-biz Service Provider Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,139	In the UK (and throughout most of the western world I would imagine) porn is readily available on cable / satellite TV after the evening watershed. There is countless softer type porn channels here and for the hardcore stuff, it is not difficult to find European viewing cards etc. Porn on the TV has been available for years and the online porn business continues to grow as we all know. Nothing to worry about.

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Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	The box seems redundent ... why should someone pay $180 for another box when their computer can perform most of the same functions, especially since the feeds themselves are already internet based. Even if the box is the best thing since sliced bread, one of the biggest stumbling blocks is that people want to keep their porn surfing on the downlow - most folks certainly don't want a porn box sitting on top of their TV. With all that said, it's probably a nice niche product to push ... but certainly no threat to the on-line adult industry - in my view, the biggest threats are more regulation and consolidation, such as cable companies offering hardcore XXX adult, including gay content, on-demand. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

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Bosco4y2k3 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 113	I agree, it'll be a nice niche market for those who've had it with the paysites already and those that are seriously into porn. Jacking ccs is what the big guys do best so I doubt it will affect the internet market much at all. __________________