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Old 06-10-2006, 02:09 AM   #1
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:stoned Anyone IE 7 yet?

Anyone IE 7 yet? - I did on one box - not 100% sure I like this yet!!!!
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:15 AM   #2
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guess not - okay then
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:15 AM   #3
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I have it, but don't like it. of course, it's still beta.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:27 AM   #4
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I don't like the feel of it I hope it changes before the final cut at least.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:29 AM   #5
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yes
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don't like not being able to move the URL bar at all
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:32 AM   #6
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we'll all test it out since our consumers use it....but i think thats about as far as it goes on my pc's.....firefox or any other non MS virus trap 4 life
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:44 AM   #7
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we'll all test it out since our consumers use it....but i think thats about as far as it goes on my pc's.....firefox or any other non MS virus trap 4 life
lol yep. only reason i got IE opened is to make sure my sites look ok in em. My girl got IE7 and she doesn't like it much. I took it for a ride for a few minutes and I didn't like the twists and turns, almost puked
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:46 AM   #8
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i only use it for testing designs because i cant seem to remove it and rollback to 6
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:19 AM   #9
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i am running vista and office 2007 on one machine - i LOVE it
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:48 AM   #10
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I like it, It's a lot more stable in beta than 6 was for me
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:49 AM   #11
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I'm interested in hearing from some coders about IE7.... if people have tried any layer work, AJAX.... stuff like that.

Is IE 7 as compliant as they'd like to have us believe?
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:52 AM   #12
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I won't touch until it's at least RC2 or RC3
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Old 06-10-2006, 05:14 AM   #13
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IE-Vista rocks, the OS is still a bit unstable.
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Old 06-10-2006, 05:30 AM   #14
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beta no thanks , you can shove that
i don't put anything beta on any of my pc's
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:32 AM   #15
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I installed it after doing a system repair but had problems (with the repair, not IE7) so had to do a complete restore. Only had IE7 for a couple hours but that was enough to know I wasn't to keen on it.

I like to combine all of my navaigational buttons/links, address bar, etc. into just a couple lines. Just the fixed part at the top of IE7 is as big as I normally have for my entire browser top, then it takes at least one more line for the things it will no longer let me combine at the top. People carry on about tabbed browsing like it is indispensable but I see little difference between that and toggling the open window tabs on the toolbar the way IE6 works... and those tabs don't take up fixed browser space.
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:12 PM   #16
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Yes, here

Don´t seem too unstable as previous beta software released from Microsoft.
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:19 PM   #17
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I tried it and liked it a lot. However, I found beta1 to be better than the recent release. Most of the changes they made between version were good but beta2 suffered from 2 problems which made me remove it...

Scripts time out on it and there seems to be no way yet to stop it doing so. After something like 30-60 seconds if you're on a page with a slow script a 404 pops up which makes it almost useless for me.

Also I had an odd problem where pages with image recognition would never like the code I put in. They always seemed to want a different code from the one shown no matter what page on what site.

Nice to finally have tabbed browsing in IE though which for me was the only reason to use Mozilla etc (security IS NOT a problem in IE if you update regularly and have sensible security settings)
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:28 PM   #18
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sucks balls...their idea of tabbed browsing in comparison to FF or Moz blows ARSE...

also they need to get some plugins that Im hooked on and then MAYBE i'd use that POS to surf with....

until then it's only useful to see what the n0bs that view my pages are seeing...
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:32 PM   #19
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IE7 is being built to run on Vista.

Running it on an XP box is supposedly much different and watered down.

..what I've read
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:38 PM   #20
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I won't touch until it's at least RC2 or RC3
what he said, FF is still the best browser

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Old 06-10-2006, 05:05 PM   #22
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I dont need to try it to know it will suck.
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sucks balls...their idea of tabbed browsing in comparison to FF or Moz blows ARSE...
Actualy I couldn't stand tabbed browsing in FF. One of the reasons I hated using it. IE's tabbed browsing is much better.

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POS? You haven't even used it. At least I tried to use FF. At least I have something to base an opinion on. I'm sure IE7 has pluggins since IE6 does. Anyways I have yet to have any use for extentions. I have yet to see a useful extention in FF, for me anyways.

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Well it's still beta so it's not perfect. I'm 100% sure you you download the FireFox 2.0 Beta you will encounter bugs, but you don't bring that up. Hmmmmmmm.

Also whether you FF lovers like it or not, 85% of surfers will be using IE7. So if you only design a page that only works properly in FF then you're just screwing yourself.
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:21 PM   #25
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I am sticking to FireFox for now...
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:22 PM   #26
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Stick with firefox or a mac. Your passwords will thank you for it.
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Actualy I couldn't stand tabbed browsing in FF. One of the reasons I hated using it. IE's tabbed browsing is much better.



POS? You haven't even used it. At least I tried to use FF. At least I have something to base an opinion on. I'm sure IE7 has pluggins since IE6 does. Anyways I have yet to have any use for extentions. I have yet to see a useful extention in FF, for me anyways.



Well it's still beta so it's not perfect. I'm 100% sure you you download the FireFox 2.0 Beta you will encounter bugs, but you don't bring that up. Hmmmmmmm.

Also whether you FF lovers like it or not, 85% of surfers will be using IE7. So if you only design a page that only works properly in FF then you're just screwing yourself.

Yeh I've used it for a few hours, it blew ass, still blows ass...I also know what a beta is, so I'm sure we can expect it to get a little better...



Like it or not 85% of surfers are idiots...



PS: You must not have caught the part where I mentioned that I DO use it so that I can checkout what the surfers are seeing.

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as for plugins, I like to check keyword density on a page quickly, I like to study backlinks in a snap, etc...I LOVE adblock, and several other lil things, FAST proxy switching....I'm sure I could think of others

I like customization, I like to see and use tools that I want to, not what Bill thinks I should and only that...
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:32 PM   #28
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:33 PM   #29
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i only use it for testing designs because i cant seem to remove it and rollback to 6

I uninstalled it and it rolled back to ie6 for me.
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Yeh I've used it for a few hours, it blew ass, still blows ass...I also know what a beta is, so I'm sure we can expect it to get a little better...
Oh yeah a few hours. I used FF for weeks and I can say for a fact I hate it. Hours mean shit, especially with a BETA. Also you didn't answer my question about FireFox 2.0 beta. I mean if you were willing to download IE 7 BETA why not FF 2.0 beta since you like FF so much? Hmmmmm.

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On IE right click > page info > backward links. Not that hard. And no plug in necessary.

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Do you love it when surfers on your site use adblock? Kind of hypocritical of you isn't it? Anyone that tries to convince any potential customers to use something that has a feature called "adblock" is an idiot.

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IE has plug-ins too. IE6 had a tabbed browsing plug-in for example. Quit making FF like it's the shit. Actually most "experts" would say that Opera is the best browser if you want to be that way about it.

I can tell you one thing, IE7 has a anti-phising feature FF does not. For a browswer that is supposed to be superior in terms of security why is this feature lacking?

Fact is if FF would actualy not act like it's on a 56K conection when loading graphics on webpage I might use it more. That's my biggest beef and they have yet to fix this serious flaw. On some pages the graphics never fully load with FF. I mean like a good portion of them. That's not good. I tend to like to see the ENTIRE page when I surfing not part of it. And load at a reasonable rate. IE provides this FF does not.
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