what is the connection? can any of the fan bitches of the retarded fcuking bush admin that is making the dollar drop like a fucking brick explain this please?
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i' dd like to know that too -
Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed (Washington post, 2004)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun16.html
9/11 panel sees no link between Iraq, al-Qaida (MSNBC, 2004)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5223932/
^^^^^or are those conspiracies agaisnt bush, you bush dickriders??
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I hope he chockes for good on a pretzel......Comment
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He was looking for the weapons of gas destruction.Comment
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Where are the Bush fan boys? Im sure they know the answer the bush admin dont even know themselfs.
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He went to war because Saddam was a bad mothafuckaComment
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first it was terrorists , it then turned to wmd , then it turned to getting rid of saddamComment
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"October 2, 2002" - see the dates and news posts i posted before you - lies take a while to goet through the thick heads of the press. Worthless post.Originally posted by Heywood JablomeComment
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For all you liberals/America-haters who are too young to remember:
Bill Clinton claims Saddam has WMDs. Bombs him:
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/New/html/19981216-3611.html
Bill Clinton signs bill demanding regime change in Iraq:
http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...ast/libera.htm
Bill Clinton kills 500,000 Iraqi civilians:
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can you tell me whats the connection between 911 and iraq? And dont forget the deal bush senior had wit our buddy hussein.Originally posted by HawkeyeComment
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The Bush Admin went in to Iraq to establish a significant millitary presence in the Middle East. The people, being no more or less stupid than the average idiot in any other country, were told something else..Comment
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No, Bush went to war so he could funnel lots of taxpayer dollars to his buddies.Comment
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You do realize this hasnt got ANYTHING to do with the 911 hit and iraq connection right?Originally posted by HawkeyeComment
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It's been established many times that the reasons to go to war with Iraq were either lies or "Bad Intel"...
We already have one soldier refusing to go to Iraq due to it being an "Illegal War".
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So the lesson is, better to go to war based on... anything.. than to enforce economic sanctions? lol
What next, someone goes back even further and posts a pic of rumsfeld shaking sadams hand? Thats all pointless. Swift boat style.43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.
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i know the ones with half a brain on here know this, i just want the 2% of brainless bush dickriders on here to finally recognize the facts.Originally posted by aicoComment
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No reason for US to go in war against Hitler, it was the Japs that bomb Pearl H. right?
Things are more complicated than we see and know.Comment
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Al Qaeda attacked us on 9/11.Originally posted by nico-t
Our Marines are currently fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq.Comment
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the DOLLARS GOING DOWN BABY! yeeaaaaah baby YEEAAAAAH! THANK YOU!
btw WHATS THE CONNECTION? NOTHING! oh so funny how thousands of US soldiers and iraqis are getting killed for the oil inustry.... i hear bush say.. "we depend too much on oil"... Wow that was a swift reaction. The war on oil was already going on for more then 3 years when you finally made this statement! I bet the families of the dead soldiers and civilians feel better now. Fucking retard.Comment
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Why did America/Britain invade Africa in WW2?Originally posted by nico-t
Were we attacked by Africa?Comment
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enforcing sactions for over a decade caused exponentially more iraqi deaths than the war has.Originally posted by PR_TomSo the lesson is, better to go to war based on... anything.. than to enforce economic sanctions? lol
What next, someone goes back even further and posts a pic of rumsfeld shaking sadams hand? Thats all pointless. Swift boat style.
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ahaaa! What happened to Osama? He moved to Iraq? The main suspect? you know, the one that was responsible for the whole mess, according to the US, is he in Iraq? What? No? So what IS in iraq? Starts with an O and ends with IL? No that cant be true. The US president wont do such a thing, sacrificing his own people for his own pockets. It's human nature to be egocentric? Noooo, that cant be true.Originally posted by Hawkeye
Keep dreaming while playing the wizard of Oz.Comment
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Well Clinton didnt initiate the sanctions did he? Maybe so, I dont know.
I do know a lot were pissed when Bush sr. didnt press on to Baghdad and take out sadam in the gulf war. We knew then that he'd gassed the kurds and let him have his country still.
The entire region is just fucked up. You know, 65% of suicide bombings are done by Saudi's, 10% by Iraqi's.. wtf. I should be like one of my brothers who ignores the news, especially national/international news. He says "In all my life not a single bit of that will affect me directly so why bother?"43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.Comment
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Top leaders are usually not in the middle of the battle zone. Its called strategyOriginally posted by nico-t
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No Nico... it's got everything to do with it... he's pointing out the fact that this has been an ongoing problem/issue for quite some time.Originally posted by nico-t
I'm not answering nor disregarding your issue, but the real deal is NOT whether you like, dislike, voted for, didn't vote for "Bush" it's not all about that. This problem has been building for over 30 years, so place blame on whomever you like.
Hawkeye has vaild points whether you choose to acknowledge them or not.
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He's in Afghanistan. We have troops there too.Originally posted by nico-t
Pick up a newspaper sometime.Comment
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hes got a point. The normal people like us cant do shit about the world leaders. If they aint getting elected the 'democratic' way, their money speaks and they still be "elected". Money rules, and anyone who says thats a paranoid state of mind is fucking naive. If world leaders want something, they just do it. Just look at the iraq situation.Originally posted by PR_TomComment
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A) different group dumbass. He changed the name to that in "honor" Ossama.Originally posted by Hawkeye
B) Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until AFTER we invaded.
Please learn about FACTS before you post. Makes you look less stupid.Comment
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so what are you doing in iraq? What has saddam has to do with it? He was against the religious extremists. Thats why he got support from Bush senior.Originally posted by Hawkeye
Work on your history boy, and keep on topic please.Comment
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Nico... once again.. I've got no beef with you but the thought that this or any war is about "OIL" is ignorant. The US buys most of it's oil from the UAE. That's not "Iraq". Have you looked to see what Iraqis are paying per gallon for gasoline? If not you might want to do so.Originally posted by nico-t
Like I said above "responsible for this whole mess" isn't one guy. That's not possible. Otherwise it would be "A" mess. Is it a mess? I think so. But I don't think it's a mess that could have been avoided over that last 30 years.
This is more than the voting of some American President and his or her leadership skills. I've said this before, and I'll say it again... this is the Modern Day "Holy Crusades". And it's gonna get worse before it get's better. People that compare Vietnam to this war are maybe correct, the only difference is that instead of fighting governmental ideology, your throwing around religious ideology.
I would be curious to know your I guess "attitude" on 2 issues....
1. What is a "jihad"
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2. What does a "jihad" mean not only to the Western civilization but to all nations? I'm assuming you being from the Netherlands your not Muslim.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincedence that our troops go into Iraq and find themselves fighting a war against Osama's boys.Originally posted by GatorB
Would you rather have Al Qaeda fighting against Marines in Iraq, or against civilians in America?Comment
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Incorrect... it's well documented that Al Queada established and ran terror training camps in Iraq long before the US overthrow of the dictator Sadaam and his 2 sons (RIP).Originally posted by GatorBEvery Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
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you do realize that the people that voted for bush are mostly religious extremists, just like the iraqi bombers? You do realize that the christian followers follow their leader just as hard as the muslim followers follow their leader? They have more in common then they would EVER admit.Originally posted by BlingDaddy
'jihad' is the same as 'operation iraqi freedom'. Same tools, same leaders, different methods. Think about that.Comment
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Are you a fucking idiot? Bush went to war with Iraq because of "weapons of mass destruction" or so he says. We bombed the fuck our of Afghanistan becuase of 9/11. I'm a politic moron but I don't live under a fucking rock.Originally posted by nico-tComment
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The sheer stupidity of some people... sheesh. None of you must watch Fox News, the most fair and balanced of all! It was clear that Saddam INSANE LOL FOX NEWS ROCKS had weapons of mass destruction! When America the brave and bold and terrifically well color coordinated on their naval ships invaded the evil country of the dictator INSANE LOL THIS JOKE NEVER GETS OLD they didn't find the weapons of mass destruction because Saddam INSANE LOL hid them inside his fleet of Camel destroyers and sent the fleet of Camel destroyers to Sudan where they await to take back over the country of Iraq in 2007 when America pulls out of Iraq citing for the six thousandth time "Mission Accomplished".
Oh and Bush will go down in history as being the smartest, best looking president ever.
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see post #3.... did YOU live under a rock, moron?Originally posted by ibbunkComment
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So link to some of this documentation.Originally posted by BlingDaddyComment
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No Nico... once again.. you're incorrect. I voted for Bush, and I'm neither a "religious extremeist" or a Christian. What I am is a veteran (3 generations) and interested in protecting the defense of the people of the US. I'm also a porno webmaster that fully supports free speech. (defense and civil liberty can be seperate)Originally posted by nico-t
They have LESS in common that you might think. Read up, "jihad" calls for the extermination of anyone that stands in the way of the Muslim religion (according to extremeists). If you don't believe that, just ask the Jews of Israel who face a nuke in the face from the same Muslim extremeists that are trying DESPERATELY to accquire nuclear weapons.
Are there "christian" extremeists? You bet your ass... but their agendas don't include things like carbombs, be-headings, terror, and killing women and children who don't listen. They may include "fighting porn" and the like, but that's easy to deal with.
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Originally posted by nico-t
Uniformed idiot thinks all conservatives are religous freaks.
Minorities in our country are more likely to vote based on religious issues. The minorities in our country are tricked into voting for democrats with unresonable promises . So, actually, alot of the votes for democrats come from religious minorities.
Another misconception is that dumb poor southerners are republicans. That couldn't be further from the truth. In the south, the very poor uneducated communities all vote for democrats.
Those are two basic groups that like yourself will never understand the trickle down theory. The democrats are banking on that.Comment
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.htmlOriginally posted by Joe Citizen
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nico-t .... Many of us voted against Kerry, not for Bush. Shitty reason but there it is .....Comment
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aha so thats why the "republicans" are running the show...Originally posted by FunForOne
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Fighting Al Qaeda.Originally posted by nico-t
Does this make you angry?Comment
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now that really sucks..... why? i live in holland but at the start of the race i could see kerry had more potential then bush... you guys think too much in black and white, too much about 'democratic' and 'republic'... you could have seen this coming.Originally posted by L-PinkComment
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Sorry but you are going to have to do better than that. That has long since been debunked.Originally posted by BlingDaddy
In separate interviews with me, however, a former C.I.A. station chief and a former military intelligence analyst said that the camp near Salman Pak had been built not for terrorism training but for counter-terrorism training. In the mid-eighties, Islamic terrorists were routinely hijacking aircraft. In 1986, an Iraqi airliner was seized by pro-Iranian extremists and crashed, after a hand grenade was triggered, killing at least sixty-five people. (At the time, Iran and Iraq were at war, and America favored Iraq.) Iraq then sought assistance from the West, and got what it wanted from Britain?s MI6. The C.I.A. offered similar training in counter-terrorism throughout the Middle East. ?We were helping our allies everywhere we had a liaison,? the former station chief told me. Inspectors recalled seeing the body of an airplane?which appeared to be used for counter-terrorism training?when they visited a biological-weapons facility near Salman Pak in 1991, ten years before September 11th. It is, of course, possible for such a camp to be converted from one purpose to another. The former C.I.A. official noted, however, that terrorists would not practice on airplanes in the open. ?That?s Hollywood rinky-dink stuff,? the former agent said. ?They train in basements. You don?t need a real airplane to practice hijacking. The 9/11 terrorists went to gyms. But to take one back you have to practice on the real thing.?
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/030512fa_fact
Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Pak_facilityLast edited by Joe Citizen; 06-09-2006, 07:01 PM.Comment
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Nico... you laugh at that... but what's next? You do realize that Muslim extremeism isn't contained just against "Western" nations like the US.. They don't care... if you're not "muslim" you're exterminated... kind of reminiscent of something that happened at the turn of the century is it not?Originally posted by nico-t Every Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
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Right... the New "Yorker" is a totally reliable source. LMAO... Okay Joe... terroist are training... that's a FACT. Where are they training? In the "Land Down Under"? In the US? Or in shitholes that love them like Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan?Originally posted by Joe CitizenEvery Day... Bling Daddy's Masturbation Station!
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