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rowan 06-08-2006 09:36 PM

Wow, $37k seems real low for a long established site... doesn't seem to have a shitload of traffic (perhaps 90-100k) but there are some quality sites in his trade list.

BusterBunny 06-08-2006 09:36 PM

poop on a stick

Snake Doctor 06-08-2006 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest
Coming from the guy who has never run/grown a TGP... or at least one that was at least a marginal success.

Just because I've never built a car doesn't mean I don't know anything about the auto industry. I buy traffic from most of the "big boys" in the TGP game and I know whose traffic is quality and whose is garbage.
The nastydollars/bangbros guy started in the TGP side of this business, and they also run some of the biggest and most successful affiliate programs.
So I was just saying that selling it to a program doesn't mean the death of a site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest
Some people like their successes to live on as a "testament" to something they've built.. But if he didn't care, then why didn't he go for the bigger money.

This is the emotional attachment I was talking about, it's bad for business.
I'm guessing he didn't hold out for the big money for the reason you stated...he's having some sort of financial emergency and this was the only real "asset" he had to liquidate.

Also I think a real "testament" to your success would be if the person who bought if failed miserably so you could say the site was successful in the past only because of you.
If you sell to Pierre or Shap and they turn the site into twice what it was that's not a testament to your success, it's a testament to them being better than you at this game.

:2 cents:

Worldsex 06-08-2006 09:37 PM

Shap, I wan to invite you and your Shapette for a stay here in Curacao, the island of love...
your flight will arrive at 10.30, I will pick you up at 10.31!
If you don't see me at 10.44, please don't take a cab, I will be there....in a minute

onlymovies 06-08-2006 09:38 PM

Shit, after reading this thread, i better not sell out behind Pierre's back! Oh my!
:winkwink:

JD 06-08-2006 09:38 PM

LMAO what a dipshit. A site like that could have gone for way more than 37k imho.

Hows the blog going Pierre?

the Shemp 06-08-2006 09:40 PM

why the big hurry to sell the site/s?
something going on behind the scenes for sure...

JD 06-08-2006 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
why the big hurry to sell the site/s?
something going on behind the scenes for sure...

yeah, definately something weird. maybe he made a big bet and there's a few "gentlemen" looking for him

Shap 06-08-2006 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike33
Did you know him beforehand or do trades with him previous to this? I thought most of you big tgp guys knew each other and were pretty much friends or associates.

Only us dutch know each other. As pierre would tell you the others don't matter.

I know one thing this guy was definitely not dutch. Douche but not dutch :1orglaugh

Shap 06-08-2006 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
Wow, $37k seems real low for a long established site... doesn't seem to have a shitload of traffic (perhaps 90-100k) but there are some quality sites in his trade list.

There's no money in tgps.

Shap 06-08-2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlymovies
Shit, after reading this thread, i better not sell out behind Pierre's back! Oh my!
:winkwink:

LOL. Anybody who wants to get paid fairly will try to sell to either Pierre or I. If they don't we will publicly humilate them so everyone else remembers not to not sell to us.

Murderous 06-08-2006 09:45 PM

I think Ah-Me would have been a nice addition to Pierres network.

webgurl 06-08-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
why the big hurry to sell the site/s?
something going on behind the scenes for sure...

shemp ,
I hope you were serious about my position at the
adult arcade :helpme

Thurbs 06-08-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap
DAVE! (said in seinfeld "newman" voice)

omfg shap - that gave me a good laugh, been a while since i've heard the ol' NEEWMAN!

Shap 06-08-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
why the big hurry to sell the site/s?
something going on behind the scenes for sure...

Yeah i agree. I see the site was supposedly sold within the last 2 hours however the domain is already in wildcash's name. Something weird is up for sure.

Worldsex 06-08-2006 09:45 PM

Shap is right,
no money at all, I review for the hun, and may I quote: to put food on my family!!

Shap 06-08-2006 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurbs
omfg shap - that gave me a good laugh, been a while since i've heard the ol' NEEWMAN!

I didn't want to post his last name so had to do it with DAAAAAAAAVE :)

Worldsex 06-08-2006 09:47 PM

Yeah!!! Marc Perrins has a small penis!!

Shap 06-08-2006 09:50 PM

I could just picture something like this happening in the real world.

Pierre goes to buy his new Ferrari. He's all set. Signed the paperwork all that's left is to give the dealer the money order. Before doing so he excuses himself to use the washroom. The excitement has had an effect on his kidneys. He returns excited and ready to leave with his car. Only to be informed that while he was taking a piss somebody else came in and paid for the car.

Worldsex 06-08-2006 09:53 PM

ROFL!!

good thing I never lost sight of my wife at our wedding!

Shap 06-08-2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldsex
ROFL!!

good thing I never lost site of my wife at our wedding!

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA! Shit i forgot the ring. Brb honey. You get back and she's married to your best man :1orglaugh Sorry honey i couldn't wait 2 minutes to marry you.

pornguy 06-08-2006 09:55 PM

I dont think that 1 to 3 k makes someone a bad business person, I think that it makes them short sighted.

Worldsex 06-08-2006 09:57 PM

Hmm..seems we're the only 2 webmasters left in this thread Shap, can you please lock the door and dim the lights when you leave?
thanks and goodnight!

the Shemp 06-08-2006 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl
shemp ,
I hope you were serious about my position at the
adult arcade :helpme

hehe, yes i am...i think you'd sell a lot of tokens.... ;)

RRRED 06-08-2006 11:48 PM

All you silly tgp people... Can't you come up with a more productive hobby?

hehe.. hey Shemp have you enjoyed the total of 5 sunny days we've had so far?

shermo 06-09-2006 12:16 AM

$37k? OMFG. Hahahah!

Congrats to the winners!

the Shemp 06-09-2006 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED
All you silly tgp people... Can't you come up with a more productive hobby?

hehe.. hey Shemp have you enjoyed the total of 5 sunny days we've had so far?

the weather is just pathetic here...

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-09-2006 12:48 AM

:thumbsup :321GFY :helpme :error :1orglaugh :warning

Trax 06-09-2006 12:52 AM

lol
what an idiot haha
this is so funny.

nofx 06-09-2006 12:54 AM

oh shit craziness

SomeCreep 06-09-2006 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan
doesn't seem to have a shitload of traffic (perhaps 90-100k) but there are some quality sites in his trade list.

I'd be surprised if ah-me.com gets even half that much per day. They do have some nice trades though.

Theo 06-09-2006 12:55 AM

lesson learned

always keep 40k on epassporte lol

BVF 06-09-2006 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap
Btw all joking aside I'd be livid if i were Pierre. This jackass agreed to do the deal. He told Pierre it's a done deal. Then as Pierre is discussing how he's going to pay the guy he says sorry i sold it to someone else who paid me faster than you (which was not even 14 minutes).

This guy is such a joker and people wonder why it sold for 37k. The guy was a class A douche bag that's why.

I used to submit to Ah-me a couple of years ago...then I was given a submit account...Then all of a sudden I was banned for no reason..I didn't say anything because shit happens even though I KNEW that I did nothing wrong..

Then almost a year ago, he comes on here and says that the submit accounts that he did cut off were cheaters...Knowing that I WASN'T a cheater, I entered the thread and told him what happened and even gave him my submit account code...He said he would look into it and nothing happened..

I knew right then that if he's going to just accuse people of cheating with no proof, that he wasn't trustworthy...Even though I wasn't specifically called out, I still don't like being lumped in with cheaters and I took offense to his accusation....It's the principle of the thing..

Your character affects every business transaction in life.

Brujah 06-09-2006 01:06 AM

So are you saying the Dutch are slow-payers? :)

Matiz 06-09-2006 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worldsex
ROFL!!

good thing I never lost sight of my wife at our wedding!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

kaylacam 06-09-2006 01:38 AM

well i'm knocking him off my to-fuck list now

SleazyDream 06-09-2006 01:41 AM

didn't want to say it - but if i felt it was quality I would have been bidding.

hummm - stiff shap and pierre as a way to start.

me rethinking my trade with ah-me now

pussyluver 06-09-2006 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap
I'm always amazed at how many bad business people there are in this industry. Dealing with some of our industry folk is worse than dealing with infants. Anyhow today we had one leave the biz. Crysty the former owner of Ah-me.

The two biggest buyers (Pierre and Myself) in the free site market contacted him to purchase his site. I tell him to not sell without contacting me first and I'll match any offer. Pierre obviously had his own conversation where he expressed his interest. Then out of the blue bam site is sold for $37,000 lol. I was willing to pay more and he never contacted me after he said he would. I found out the site was sold from Pierre. So playing dumb i email Crysty and he says it looks like he may do a deal at 37k. So I reply that i'll pay $38k and up to 40k. He then replies the same thing he did to pierre an hour earlier "a minute too late ,ah-me.com has been sold to Wildcash.com." LOL A minute too late? It's been sold for over an hour and he just told me it wasn't.

Anyhow Crysty you are a bad liar and an even worse businessman. Enjoy your new life.

Pont is Mr. smart business man is that someone else won the deal and owns the site(s). Talk is cheap. The BUYER put bucks on the table, you didn't. Plain and simple. The seller may have left money on the table by being eager to sell. To say hey give me a call when ya got an offer and I'll see if I want to top it didn't win you the biz here. So you come here and whine :waaaaahh . In the end who was the smart player?

You could say, I would have given you $100K. Doesn't mean shit after it is sold. If I'm an eager seller, I want to see cash and a solid offer.

My :2 cents: is that calling the seller a dumb businessman cause he sold to someone else with a solid offer is a cheap shot at this point. At least that's my perspective outside looking in.

pussyluver 06-09-2006 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream
didn't want to say it - but if i felt it was quality I would have been bidding.

hummm - stiff shap and pierre as a way to start.

me rethinking my trade with ah-me now

So your sig "Skufty will do algerbra for food." My dog did Calculus for sex!!

Algebra is the correct spelling. Not that I'm any fucking good at grammar or spelling, just noticed it.

I don't see this as a someone stiffing shap and pierre. I see this as someone knowing how to close a deal. I don't know the players. These are prolly people you know and party with???

In the end, not my biz, but a thread was started and that invites comment.

pussyluver 06-09-2006 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp
why the big hurry to sell the site/s?
something going on behind the scenes for sure...

Almost always is. Seems like a very eager seller. We don't know the whole story, prolly never will. Makes for good GFY drama.

Could speculate on the quick need for cash etc.

Hats off to the winners.

andrej_NDC 06-09-2006 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2
Yeah you're right....look at the horrible job that the Nasty Dollars crew has done with sites like Sublime Directory and Mad Thumbs :1orglaugh

Sublime used to be a gold mine...I made 10-30 sales on each gallery spot, bought also direct paysite spots there for $1500 I think. Now they cost $500 and even that is a lot.

andrej_NDC 06-09-2006 04:01 AM

edit: $750

testpie 06-09-2006 04:16 AM

Well you could console yourself by buying my TGP - it's not quite an industry giant yet... but... :1orglaugh

rowan 06-09-2006 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep
I'd be surprised if ah-me.com gets even half that much per day. They do have some nice trades though.

I grabbed my calculator. Unless his toplist is fake (or the counts are clicks rather than loads) his traffic should be pretty close to what I quoted. :)

CHILI MEDIA 06-09-2006 05:54 AM

Ghost if you are reading this contact me about the traffic deal we had.

HairToStay 06-09-2006 06:17 AM

Why was crystys.com taken down? I remember being unable to submit for months, then it came back, then poof it was gone.

$37k sounds very low, so it makes me think this guy needed a quick influx of cash very fast.

georgeyw 06-09-2006 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HairToStay
Why was crystys.com taken down? I remember being unable to submit for months, then it came back, then poof it was gone.

$37k sounds very low, so it makes me think this guy needed a quick influx of cash very fast.

Well i can tell you that I bought a submit account once and it was good - nothing to rave about but I didn't renew and the guy kept on asking me every single month if i'd renew. Sounds like he was making feck all from the site IMO

OG LennyT 06-09-2006 07:37 AM

a lot of arrogance in this thread... goddam

and a lot of ass suckling too.

Roald 06-09-2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvd316
a lot of arrogance in this thread... goddam

and a lot of ass suckling too.

Well duuuuuuhhh

Shap 06-09-2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
Pont is Mr. smart business man is that someone else won the deal and owns the site(s). Talk is cheap. The BUYER put bucks on the table, you didn't. Plain and simple. The seller may have left money on the table by being eager to sell. To say hey give me a call when ya got an offer and I'll see if I want to top it didn't win you the biz here. So you come here and whine :waaaaahh . In the end who was the smart player?

You could say, I would have given you $100K. Doesn't mean shit after it is sold. If I'm an eager seller, I want to see cash and a solid offer.

My :2 cents: is that calling the seller a dumb businessman cause he sold to someone else with a solid offer is a cheap shot at this point. At least that's my perspective outside looking in.

read what he did to pierre. This guy is a jackass.


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