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Pete · 05-26-2002, 06:54 PM

Just like everyone else I got FUCKED by Don from Varadox. He owes me a fair amount of money and ofcourse wont reply to emails or icq. I'm looking at other means of getting my money even it means spending some extra money to do it, just to make a point. I'll be sure to take pictures to show everyone. What else do you own Don? Vector-Force? That should be closed soon too, and everything else you own, you slimey piece of shit!!

the Shemp · 05-26-2002, 06:59 PM

Is this another dialer disaster?

shemp

Pete · 05-26-2002, 07:05 PM

I guess this would be a good place to start

Registrant:
Vector Force Inc
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6
CA

Domain Name: DIALERHEAVEN.COM

Administrative Contact:
Force Inc, Vector [email protected]
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6
CA
403-547-5352

Technical Contact:
Force Inc, Vector [email protected]
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6
CA
403-547-5352

Billing Contact:
Force Inc, Vector [email protected]
83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW
Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6
CA
403-547-5352

Registration Service Provider:
Intercosmos Media Group Inc. dba directNIC.com, [email protected]
504 679 5173
http://www.directnic.com

Record last updated on 25-Apr-2002.
Record expires on 01-Feb-2003.
Record Created on 01-Feb-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.VECTOR-FORCE.COM 64.69.95.9
NS2.VECTOR-FORCE.COM 64.69.95.252

Pete · 05-26-2002, 07:12 PM

Well what do ya know, all the phone numbers listed for varadox and vector force are no longer in use. I wonder why that is???

quiet · 05-26-2002, 07:17 PM

i stay far away from dialers - but vector force, someone was trying to tell me to move there (quite a while ago). never took them seriously, but still.

Lane · 05-26-2002, 07:17 PM

i am owed $4000 and havent seen a dime yet.....

jimmyf · 05-26-2002, 07:18 PM

I've got one domain there....

Pete · 05-26-2002, 07:22 PM

Quote:

I've got one domain there....

You should get fucked soon!

Lane · 05-26-2002, 07:22 PM

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=31407

here is what their ex-employee say

Pete · 05-26-2002, 07:40 PM

Ok, well he owes me about 2k. I would be interested in collectively putting a law suit together. Let me know and we can get something going

Theo · 05-26-2002, 07:41 PM

I knew my friend Nasko didnt receive any money so far, but I didn't know Lane and Kush have also the same problem.

How many webmasters are still waiting payments from this board?

Very often lately I recall the words of a friend "Dialers when get bored fucking surfers, they start fucking webmasters"

SNOW · 05-26-2002, 07:45 PM

Those fuckers wen't after me when I was down ..Now it's there turn.. I hope they all ROTT IN HELL those mother fuckers..

What goes around Comes around...Tam Is innocent Just like I was..Jon and Don arent worth the shit I wipe off my ass...

Pipecrew · 05-26-2002, 07:46 PM

Vector Force owes me 175,000 dollars

Pipecrew · 05-26-2002, 07:47 PM

na not really

Daymare · 05-26-2002, 07:51 PM

Vector Force can goto hell... this really sucks.

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2002, 08:01 PM

Not sure what all happened but anytime someone is ripped off, let alone a bunch of them at once or consecutively, fuck that...

Molotov Cocktail time eh ;)

AWW - Kevin · 05-26-2002, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
na not really

Pipecrew contact me please
ICQ#121258311

zubr · 05-26-2002, 08:18 PM

Dialers are dead, and you expect your money back? ..

Pete · 05-26-2002, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Dialers are dead, and you expect your money back? ..

YES

Alvaro · 05-26-2002, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
I knew my friend Nasko didnt receive any money so far, but I didn't know Lane and Kush have also the same problem.

How many webmasters are still waiting payments from this board?

Very often lately I recall the words of a friend "Dialers when get bored fucking surfers, they start fucking webmasters"

i do.. varadox owes me around 2k

foe · 05-26-2002, 08:58 PM

Don Eckardt CEO, COO.
Lily Eckardt Billing
Cell 403-819-5622
Home 403-547-5352
Email: [email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

HAve Fun

Fletch XXX · 05-26-2002, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete

YES

Id want my money If i was owed, for sure...

phogirl69 · 05-26-2002, 09:09 PM

Will this dialer drama affect Vector-Force hosting?
I'm hosted there

Pete · 05-27-2002, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Will this dialer drama affect Vector-Force hosting?
I'm hosted there

The guy that owns it is a fucking crook so I would be very careful

Smurfette · 05-27-2002, 07:22 PM

Yep it sucks big time I'm owed money as well, only a small bit though a little over $1000.00.

Smurfette

kmanrox · 05-27-2002, 07:23 PM

ask tam, im sure she knows how to find him =)

DialerNET · 05-27-2002, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SNOW
Jon and Don arent worth the shit I wipe off my ass

Don't put Jon in the same class as Don. Don ripped people off, Jon simply can't stand you and isn't afraid to show it.
There's a difference.

Jason.

DTK · 05-27-2002, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by phogirl69
Will this dialer drama affect Vector-Force hosting?
I'm hosted there

I'd be looking for a new host...ASAP

^R3K^ · 05-27-2002, 09:22 PM

I have decided they probably will not pay me.. so now my story,i'll keep it short and sweet..

as alot of you know, i was hired on to the staff over there for Indrusty News.. well i was let go when everyone else was, i wasnt told anything from them just like anyone else.. and i was waiting for my wire.. guess what...

Still waiting.. really sucks ass. no dialer bullshit, just a plain ass fucking from Don.. hurts like a mother fucker.. anyone that knows me knows i dont fuck anyone..

hurt the wallat bad, but oh well, what can i do?

^R3K^ · 05-27-2002, 09:30 PM

Its just bullshit when someone doesnt even have the guts or balls to call you up and say,

"hey, your no longer employed, and dont look for any money from me, because I am not going to pay you for the honest work you have done"

I just dont know what the fuck to do about this shit.. you feel like your part of a solid team and then boom, your all beheaded..

Tam has nothing to do with any of your money, or mine. and she has no way of getting up with don, any more than i did.. and none of these ways work any more. if so i definetly would have gotten up with him..

if your hosted there, i would move fast... and if you need a solid host, hit me up, i have been with a solid host for a long time and he is very capible of taking you and putting you on solid ground, you just never know when don is gong to shut it down, if he hasnt paid his empoyees, i doubt he will pay his bills.

SNOW · 05-27-2002, 09:52 PM

ahhhhhhh How sweet. Your just mad cause BP4L tested your dialer and It was Pathetic with 4 min Hold times..You have alot to learn Mr Dialer of a Reseller OF a Reseller of a Reseller. All you Dialer people with Big Mouths are BITTER cause your not making money.

Now I can laugh my ass about how Pathetic you are

Now go outside and play little one, Cause when you talk no one pays attention.

DialerNET · 05-27-2002, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SNOW
ahhhhhhh How sweet. Your just mad cause BP4L tested your dialer and It was Pathetic with 4 min Hold times..You have alot to learn Mr Dialer of a Reseller OF a Reseller of a Reseller. All you Dialer people with Big Mouths are BITTER cause your not making money.

You referring to me? Simply for telling you that Jon should not be classed the same as Don? What are you so defensive about?
I never attacked you. So I'll assume I'm talking to one of your other personalities.. The one that get's you into trouble for not thinking before you type.

As to your post, I'm not sure exatcly who you're referring to that tested our dialers, but give me the account name, and I'll pull up the stats for you. If it didn't perform well for them, then so be it -tell whoever it was to work on their traffic sources, or simply stick to a dialer that works for them.

But I doubt that you'll supply that info, as we both know that you are talking out of your tooshie. And even if it were true, we have hundreds of webmasters that are loving our dialers, and more importantly, our support and quick payments.
Anyway.. Which dialer are you talking about? We have several. Did you know that? Did you look actually into anything before posting? Of course not.
Conversions for DialerAccess are through the roof, with a hold time of around 9-10 minutes, and Telcoweb is as strong as ever.

Really not sure why you feel the need to keep trying to aggravate people. Dialers didn't work out for you. You got a shitty name from dealing with them. Stop being bitter about it, and let those who can run them succesfully go about their business without having to listen to your insane rantings all the time.

Stick to what you're good at.. Mafiabucks is going well, so enjoy it and loosen up. sheesh.

Now.. let's try to keep this on topic shall we?

Jason.

SNOW · 05-27-2002, 10:28 PM

Keep this on topic (huh)?? Your the one making this Jerry Springer you Moron. Who cares whether Jon likes me or not..Has nothing to do with personality traits. He and the Whole Varadox crew wen't out of there way to hurt me and they got it right back.

Ya gotta love Karma.

You have alot to learn kid.

Show me some stats..

DialerNET · 05-27-2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SNOW
You have alot to learn kid.
Show me some stats..

errr. So do you apparently.. I can't give you stats without the account name.

And yes, Jon went out of his way to attack you. But he's still no crook like Don is. That's all I was pointing out, and it certainly didn't require you to jump on me for no reason. Especially with a bunch of blatent lies.
You go on about the Varadox crew going out to hurt you, yet that's exactly what you just tried to do to me for absolutely no reason.

That's what I'm taking offence to.
And please don't call me kid.. I'm 28 years old.

Jason.

hahmike · 05-28-2002, 03:12 AM

i can never understand why anyone would "rip off" their partners, as varadox has allegedly done.

if we had two million dollars revenue in a calendar month, of which only 0.5% was ours (making for a fairly shitty profit margin - though take this as an exaple) then we'd put out every last penny of that 99.5% to partners... besides the fact that we run on credit card revenue share basis, the entire principle of honesty is still applicable, regardless of the billing method.

SNOW · 05-28-2002, 03:22 AM

Mike Your wrong..Dialer money and CC money come in different ways. You can hardly compare the two. If the phone company says screw you were holding your money for 90 days till we go through all these complaints.. NOW what do you do.. What do you tell your webmasters? The easy money days in dialers are gone.. You can't compare Dialers and CCbill can you..

Were talking about many diff phone lines. For instance some dialer guys can pay you weekly you know why..Cause they get paid weekly on German and English traffic and float the rest when the US money comes in.. Say the US money holds well Now checks are late.. Its a fucking mess Fuck dialers.. I'm glad I'm out..
risky risky business..And the more money you make and become huge THE HARDER YOU FALL.. And I FELL HARD...Glad it's over..

Milton · 05-28-2002, 04:24 AM

ha i dont know why people still promote dialers i got ripped 5 times allready this year

railz · 05-28-2002, 05:31 AM

As you may of may not know, I was working for Don and for Varadox as well. I'm one of the very few lucky ones and got a little money from him before the crash happened.

Thankfully, R3K stepped to the plate and helped me out, and now I'm working for BH at pornresource.com

I can handle being laid off, but not actually being TOLD that we were let go is what hurts (apart from my wallet). To this day, I still have not had a single ICQ, email or phone call replied to.

I wish you all well and hope you get what is owed to you. To all my friends who I worked with at Varadox - I love you guys and will miss working with you all.

05-26-2002, 06:59 PM	#2
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Is this another dialer disaster? shemp __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

05-26-2002, 07:05 PM	#3
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	I guess this would be a good place to start Registrant: Vector Force Inc 83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6 CA Domain Name: DIALERHEAVEN.COM Administrative Contact: Force Inc, Vector [email protected] 83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6 CA 403-547-5352 Technical Contact: Force Inc, Vector [email protected] 83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6 CA 403-547-5352 Billing Contact: Force Inc, Vector [email protected] 83 Citadel Meadow Grove NW Calgary, Alberta T3G-4K6 CA 403-547-5352 Registration Service Provider: Intercosmos Media Group Inc. dba directNIC.com, [email protected] 504 679 5173 http://www.directnic.com Record last updated on 25-Apr-2002. Record expires on 01-Feb-2003. Record Created on 01-Feb-2001. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.VECTOR-FORCE.COM 64.69.95.9 NS2.VECTOR-FORCE.COM 64.69.95.252 __________________ Evoke Electronics

05-26-2002, 07:12 PM	#4
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Well what do ya know, all the phone numbers listed for varadox and vector force are no longer in use. I wonder why that is??? __________________ Evoke Electronics

05-26-2002, 07:17 PM	#6
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	i am owed $4000 and havent seen a dime yet..... __________________

05-26-2002, 07:18 PM	#7
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I've got one domain there.... __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

05-26-2002, 06:54 PM	#1
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Fucked By Varadox Just like everyone else I got FUCKED by Don from Varadox. He owes me a fair amount of money and ofcourse wont reply to emails or icq. I'm looking at other means of getting my money even it means spending some extra money to do it, just to make a point. I'll be sure to take pictures to show everyone. What else do you own Don? Vector-Force? That should be closed soon too, and everything else you own, you slimey piece of shit!! __________________ Evoke Electronics

05-26-2002, 07:17 PM	#5
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i stay far away from dialers - but vector force, someone was trying to tell me to move there (quite a while ago). never took them seriously, but still.

05-26-2002, 07:22 PM	#9
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=31407 here is what their ex-employee say __________________

05-26-2002, 07:40 PM	#10
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Ok, well he owes me about 2k. I would be interested in collectively putting a law suit together. Let me know and we can get something going __________________ Evoke Electronics

05-26-2002, 07:41 PM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I knew my friend Nasko didnt receive any money so far, but I didn't know Lane and Kush have also the same problem. How many webmasters are still waiting payments from this board? Very often lately I recall the words of a friend "Dialers when get bored fucking surfers, they start fucking webmasters"

05-26-2002, 07:45 PM	#12
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Those fuckers wen't after me when I was down ..Now it's there turn.. I hope they all ROTT IN HELL those mother fuckers.. What goes around Comes around...Tam Is innocent Just like I was..Jon and Don arent worth the shit I wipe off my ass...

05-26-2002, 07:46 PM	#13
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Vector Force owes me 175,000 dollars

05-26-2002, 07:47 PM	#14
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	na not really

05-26-2002, 07:51 PM	#15
Daymare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,674	Vector Force can goto hell... this really sucks.

05-26-2002, 08:01 PM	#16
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Not sure what all happened but anytime someone is ripped off, let alone a bunch of them at once or consecutively, fuck that... Molotov Cocktail time eh ;) __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

05-26-2002, 08:18 PM	#18
zubr Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,227	Dialers are dead, and you expect your money back? .. __________________ Alex - ICQ:61889253 - MSN:zubr_zubr at hotmail.com - Skype:zubrzubr

05-26-2002, 08:58 PM	#21
foe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: CT Posts: 5,246	Don Eckardt CEO, COO. Lily Eckardt Billing Cell 403-819-5622 Home 403-547-5352 Email: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] HAve Fun

05-26-2002, 09:09 PM	#23
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	Will this dialer drama affect Vector-Force hosting? I'm hosted there

05-27-2002, 07:22 PM	#25
Smurfette Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A little place on the ROCK! Posts: 542	Yep it sucks big time I'm owed money as well, only a small bit though a little over $1000.00. Smurfette

05-27-2002, 07:23 PM	#26
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,291	ask tam, im sure she knows how to find him =) __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

05-27-2002, 09:22 PM	#29
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	I have decided they probably will not pay me.. so now my story,i'll keep it short and sweet.. as alot of you know, i was hired on to the staff over there for Indrusty News.. well i was let go when everyone else was, i wasnt told anything from them just like anyone else.. and i was waiting for my wire.. guess what... Still waiting.. really sucks ass. no dialer bullshit, just a plain ass fucking from Don.. hurts like a mother fucker.. anyone that knows me knows i dont fuck anyone.. hurt the wallat bad, but oh well, what can i do? __________________ no business like ho business Http://www.natnet.com No Hype, Just Results

05-27-2002, 09:30 PM	#30
^R3K^ Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,815	Its just bullshit when someone doesnt even have the guts or balls to call you up and say, "hey, your no longer employed, and dont look for any money from me, because I am not going to pay you for the honest work you have done" I just dont know what the fuck to do about this shit.. you feel like your part of a solid team and then boom, your all beheaded.. Tam has nothing to do with any of your money, or mine. and she has no way of getting up with don, any more than i did.. and none of these ways work any more. if so i definetly would have gotten up with him.. if your hosted there, i would move fast... and if you need a solid host, hit me up, i have been with a solid host for a long time and he is very capible of taking you and putting you on solid ground, you just never know when don is gong to shut it down, if he hasnt paid his empoyees, i doubt he will pay his bills. __________________ no business like ho business Http://www.natnet.com No Hype, Just Results

05-27-2002, 09:52 PM	#31
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	ahhhhhhh How sweet. Your just mad cause BP4L tested your dialer and It was Pathetic with 4 min Hold times..You have alot to learn Mr Dialer of a Reseller OF a Reseller of a Reseller. All you Dialer people with Big Mouths are BITTER cause your not making money. Now I can laugh my ass about how Pathetic you are Now go outside and play little one, Cause when you talk no one pays attention. Last edited by SNOW; 05-27-2002 at 10:02 PM..

05-27-2002, 10:28 PM	#33
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Keep this on topic (huh)?? Your the one making this Jerry Springer you Moron. Who cares whether Jon likes me or not..Has nothing to do with personality traits. He and the Whole Varadox crew wen't out of there way to hurt me and they got it right back. Ya gotta love Karma. You have alot to learn kid. Show me some stats..

05-28-2002, 03:12 AM	#35
hahmike So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,488	i can never understand why anyone would "rip off" their partners, as varadox has allegedly done. if we had two million dollars revenue in a calendar month, of which only 0.5% was ours (making for a fairly shitty profit margin - though take this as an exaple) then we'd put out every last penny of that 99.5% to partners... besides the fact that we run on credit card revenue share basis, the entire principle of honesty is still applicable, regardless of the billing method. Last edited by hahmike; 05-28-2002 at 03:14 AM..

05-28-2002, 03:22 AM	#36
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Mike Your wrong..Dialer money and CC money come in different ways. You can hardly compare the two. If the phone company says screw you were holding your money for 90 days till we go through all these complaints.. NOW what do you do.. What do you tell your webmasters? The easy money days in dialers are gone.. You can't compare Dialers and CCbill can you.. Were talking about many diff phone lines. For instance some dialer guys can pay you weekly you know why..Cause they get paid weekly on German and English traffic and float the rest when the US money comes in.. Say the US money holds well Now checks are late.. Its a fucking mess Fuck dialers.. I'm glad I'm out.. risky risky business..And the more money you make and become huge THE HARDER YOU FALL.. And I FELL HARD...Glad it's over..

05-28-2002, 04:24 AM	#37
Milton Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mauritius Posts: 1,118	ha i dont know why people still promote dialers i got ripped 5 times allready this year

05-28-2002, 05:31 AM	#38
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	As you may of may not know, I was working for Don and for Varadox as well. I'm one of the very few lucky ones and got a little money from him before the crash happened. Thankfully, R3K stepped to the plate and helped me out, and now I'm working for BH at pornresource.com I can handle being laid off, but not actually being TOLD that we were let go is what hurts (apart from my wallet). To this day, I still have not had a single ICQ, email or phone call replied to. I wish you all well and hope you get what is owed to you. To all my friends who I worked with at Varadox - I love you guys and will miss working with you all. __________________ This Space for Rent