i dont even thnk its possible.. you cant set cookies or use javascript in a security=restriced frame , so i dont see how anyone could purchase anything while in yahoo's frame

I fail to see the logic in that.. that doesnt help my site 1 iota as the majority of the internet doesnt use mozilla..

I also fail to see how using a browser that lacks functionality is "better". The only reason the tag doesnt work in mozilla is because they are constantly playing catch-up with the browsers the majority of internet users use. I bet the next upgrade of firefox includes this tag.. Seems rather silly if you have been ripped off , to ignore the problem and figure its not a problem if i cant see them stealing my shit..

so i take it that means i have permission to hotlink your materials and change the way your site appears ? cool.

My bet is they added the "restricted" frames to help combat all the trojans/malware in thier results, and to reduce the negative publicity that has been coming with them.

I dont doubt thats part of the reason , but thats like saying " we are going to wear gloves when we rip off your content now because we kept cutting our fingers on the glass you used to protect your shit from being stolen..

The torjans and malware are put there because site owners dont want yahoo stealing their shit..

Anything's possible :D. You just write an apache .htaccess to check the referer, or use a bit of PHP and some trickery to stop Yahoo from doing it.

put it this way , does anyone thinks its acceptable for me to hotlink all your images , display them in one convenient place , then give you some credit but alter the way your site works/operates so a surfer cant actually buy anything..

Anyone who answers yes to this , please let me know.

cool turn me some dogshit into gold please :winkwink:
and that helps how ?? as i explained all your going to be able to do is show a different image or page , your not gonna be able to bust out of the frame.. If you can and its so easy , please find me an example of such a site . and then explain to me why i have to spend my time protecting my content so yahoo doesnt steal it and reproduce it without y permission , while also changing the way my site appears..

While I do see your point, I doubt the malware is put there specifically because of Yahoo. I think the malware comes from greedy twats that aren't smart enough to make money in an honorable fashion.(Although, the malware epidemic could make surfers more apt to break out their credit cards to stay in a 'safe zone', maybe)
I also don't think it's right that they have mangled websites within those frames, but am unclear on what to do about it at this point. I am confident you will find something ;)

Well i can see you are in an amiable mood on this fine eve'. I'm not entirely sure of the details, but i'm sure that there is nothing to stop a quick apache .htaccess mod that basically checks the referer to file x.ext, and if it maches yahoo, simply redirects the user to the actual file x.ext - all before Yahoo's code even displays the initial image.

50..........

Yes but all your gonna be able to do is change the page in the frame. and even then the surfer still isnt going to be able to buy anything because your page has been altered. theres no way i know of jumping out of a restriced frame . If there is i would be happy to know , but understanding how the security tag works , it seems impossible..

And besides all that , it seems silly for me to slow dow my server to stop a well known company from stealing from me..

ANY method you use is going to slow down your site. this means everytime someone visits your site NOT from yahoo, your going to have to first check the referrer then give them the page. while this may seem like a trivial amount of slowdown , its slowdown nonetheless. and is yahoo going to be paying me to recode my sites to stop them stealing from me..

Besides that my site has asmokeyrobots.txt file that explicitly states that no sites may link or use my content without written consent from , me. so THEY are the ones that need to recode THEIR sites to comply with MY sites robots file

I don't see the securite=restricted tag anywhere? Is there somewhere I'm supposed to be looking for it at? Would like to test a few things to see if I could break it.

they have been doing this for some time, they somehow remove all embeded content - iframes- and flash

its on the frameset itself

and its security=restricted ( typo )

if anyone wants to test the tag you can use this

http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/secur...//yoursite.com

simply put your page where it says yoursite.com and see if you can break the frame

I can break it in Firefox no problem and when I do it in IE it wont break the frame BUT when I click links on my sites it opens a new IE window.

Ahhhh, thanks! Good find by the way. :thumbsup

Smokey has been more than amiable the whole thread :)

I see his point now, all the htaccess in the world isn't going to change the fact that your content is being loaded in an iframe with the security tag on... anything you redirect will still remain in the iframe with a yahoo border.

true id love to have a frame buster on all my tgp galleries ive made in the past, but its just not possible to change them all now..

shitty fuck and I remember Yahoo going after myspace/xanga video code sites for doing the same thing

As i said, i'm no apache expert, but i am fairly sure that you can check the referer, and if this matches yahoo, change the header location or pop the site in a new window. But i do agree with Smokey that it will slow your site down.

someone is really just not getting it.

I've already acknowledged that my above post was wrong (see: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=92).

We all make mistakes, but at least i've tried to make a solution instead of coming on and just slating somebody off with no offer of a resolution.

i think they jst mean you keep mentioning "popping things" and such.. all the php in the world isnt going to help you pop windows.. thats javascript.. the php just helps you choose what java to display , but once your in the restricted frame no javascript is allowed

I do appreciate the tenacity though , and i understand your just trying to help :thumbsup

Ill come up with some simple code that tries to solve the problem here today ( as best it can be anyways )

It's a microsoft thing, so read all about it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/a...s/security.asp

Well at the moment i think what i've come up with is the best you can hope for (checking the referer in PHP, and if it is the Yahoo "rape URL" showing a "Please click here to open" which then opens the site in a new window - otherwise, if the referer is blank or from another site, simply showing the site's content - it's all in the thread i linked to above) - but if you could code something better it certainly would be nice, especially seeing Yahoo getting screwed over.

How do you propose to open the site in a new window once it's in the restricted frame?

Write up the code on your own server and see if it works :)

And remember to frame a page thats on a different domain.

Your wish is my command. With the help of Smokey's "Yahoo rape" emulator:
http://ytmnd.webspacemania.com/secur...p.org/test.php

Now try visiting:
http://www.cleantgp.org/test.php

So whats the code then?

Well that's magic :D

(Oh and PHP:)
Just replace
with your site's actual content (you could always cheat and use include(file.ext) and use the PHP as a Yahoo-trapping system.

AND replace "ytmnd.webspacemania.com" with the Yahoo video host part of the URL first part (i.e. the bit that is like "xyz.xyz.com" without any of the crap after it).

Also replace that link to be your site that it goes to if the surfer clicks "Please click here to continue.

Damn GFY keep changing the double equals to a "hahahahahaha":
The "hahahaha" bit should be two equals signs.

For a new site, would your code prevent it from indexing any images anyway?

It seems to work ok, I'm sure a preferred way would be without requiring the user to click anything. Or display a big old image telling people to click for all your content or something. I might just prefer them to see my page without any javascript linked banners (thats whats affected most).

It wouldn't prevent indexing images, as these would be spidered directly - so out of the scope of the PHP code.

You can always change the "<a href...</a>" tag for a link tag and an image of your choice.

i'll change the code to make it work better, because the problem is most people cant change their existing non php fhg's to work this way.. maybe easier to attach a header file with the php or rewrite .html as php but thats going to fuck with link codes etc.. and current seo..

I think it's only a problem if your ads are flash.
http://images.search.yahoo.com/searc...t=862&ei=UTF-8

All of the ads show on this gallery and the frameset has all of the links opening in a new window....even though the gallery itself isn't coded that way.