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Old 06-06-2006, 02:01 PM   #1
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Etelegate / Ibill - Is this happening to anybody else?

Yes, we still have old rebills with Etelegate. They did pay us something last month.

Now the check for the 1st is overdue again, and when I wrote them they said that our bank routing number was missing from our banking details. It was there last month and they didn't have any trouble sending us 2 payments then (other than their own delay in actually sending the payments.)

Does anybody else still have rebills with them, and if so, did this happen to you too, or are we just lucky?
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:21 PM   #2
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Your lucky to get anything at all. I havent received one penny from them yet. And my old rebills added up to a lot of money. And yes, they did delete all the bank details on Monday. (I know it was done Monday because my details was there on Sunday) This is their fucking excuse not to send any money to anyone. Your only option is to cancel all the rebills you have and to block all users who got rebilled. (let them get chargebacks, you wont see shit anyway) Also, Etelegate is run by the same mother fuckers from IBILL (YES, They are the same people who owe us millions)

IM happy they are keeping my money, this time they cant hide behind bankruptcy. This is total fraud. You can't change a company name and continue to steal other peoples money. Internet Crime Center is already invistagting this matter. Please file a complaint and add your name to this list. Its time we get the mother fuckers locked up.

All webmasters owed money by etelegate should file a complaint at the Internet Crime Complaint Center http://www.ic3.gov/ This is the direct link to the form you need http://complaint.ic3.gov/Default.aspx

Dont be scared to file. Do it today!!!
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:00 PM   #3
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:32 PM   #4
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Yes, we still have old rebills with Etelegate. They did pay us something last month.

Now the check for the 1st is overdue again, and when I wrote them they said that our bank routing number was missing from our banking details. It was there last month and they didn't have any trouble sending us 2 payments then (other than their own delay in actually sending the payments.)

Does anybody else still have rebills with them, and if so, did this happen to you too, or are we just lucky?
Our bank info is all there and we have still not received the wire for June 1st.
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:35 PM   #5
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:54 AM   #6
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i know these guys they are idiots but pros Gary Spaniack Sr was convicted of fraud Gary jr. was nothing but a MLM sales men and ebayer ..the fact that they got this company this far I have to take my hat off to them...but deep in all of thier souls, they dont give a fuck about ANY one....LooK up Gary Sr. Oxford Educational Service/Oxford Acdamy..
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:27 AM   #7
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i know these guys they are idiots but pros Gary Spaniack Sr was convicted of fraud Gary jr. was nothing but a MLM sales men and ebayer ..the fact that they got this company this far I have to take my hat off to them...but deep in all of thier souls, they dont give a fuck about ANY one....LooK up Gary Sr. Oxford Educational Service/Oxford Acdamy..
They never bought.. (assuming it's iBill/etelegate you mean?).. they are "faces", - so no need to raise that hat

You know the location of where Spaniak was convicted for fraud?
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Old 06-12-2006, 01:32 AM   #8
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good luck getting your money, I am happy to have killed all ibill rebills 16 months ago
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:27 PM   #9
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You all have got to be kidding?!!! Google Gary Sr. New York Time july 14, 1989 ( NYT Archives) ...."real estate developer..Gary Spaniack of Cape Coral [Indicted] Look on the SEC.gov the EDGAR filings and see all the inside deals ie. Gary Jr. rented space from Sr., Mom had interest some other tranaction...and it goes on and on...look up one of the big share holders is something called 357 corp which is Gary Jr. uncle brother to his mother...

PS: I only In jest said I take my hat of...as I could not believe how far they took this scam/bullshit...et al...I was At some of the very first MLM meetings in Ft. Lauderdale 5 years ago and I just came stunble on to what's going on and I am throwing my $1.00 worth for all of you..
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:36 PM   #10
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You all have got to be kidding?!!! Google Gary Sr. New York Time july 14, 1989 ( NYT Archives) ...."real estate developer..Gary Spaniack of Cape Coral [Indicted] Look on the SEC.gov the EDGAR filings and see all the inside deals ie. Gary Jr. rented space from Sr., Mom had interest some other tranaction...and it goes on and on...look up one of the big share holders is something called 357 corp which is Gary Jr. uncle brother to his mother...

PS: I only In jest said I take my hat of...as I could not believe how far they took this scam/bullshit...et al...I was At some of the very first MLM meetings in Ft. Lauderdale 5 years ago and I just came stunble on to what's going on and I am throwing my $1.00 worth for all of you..
Ah.. Thanks for that Oxford!

It ties in with other shit now and looks like they (almost all) are more "faces" for someone else.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:43 PM   #11
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:21 AM   #12
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Ah.. Thanks for that Oxford!

It ties in with other shit now and looks like they (almost all) are more "faces" for someone else.
Iread some of your past posts and you seemed like a (shill) or better an advocate with valid questions challenging someone to bak up a possible unfounde accusation,,,yea we all get fucked thats the additional tuition we were not told about nor budgeted. for.

AS I sais I fell into this Site as Spaniack links here in some unfriendly comments(much more poliet then some meetings I attended

as i said it looks like you defended this group i some Old posts..I wonder why...You should be aware of the SEC.gov abd the EDGAR online corporat reports avalible??? Do you KNOW this group (have you lost money with them??
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:23 AM   #13
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I apoligize

I spoke(wrote too soon) I have read some more of your posts and you try,"attempt" to enlighted some lost souls..I don't know why the Ibill accounts were frozed..but if you lost money, (and dont belive you did) I could point you or an attoney south florida .

PS I have a conection than can process but he is "mother teresa" in drag

PSS How much have all the guys saying"Ibill Sucks"..etc..etc
really lost?? How about ACH? I dont know your buiness...and from the look of the playrs..I might throw my "hat" into the ring (provide there was bucu bucks and get :lovr mr long time"
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:35 AM   #14
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I spoke(wrote too soon) I have read some more of your posts and you try,"attempt" to enlighted some lost souls..I don't know why the Ibill accounts were frozed..but if you lost money, (and dont belive you did) I could point you or an attoney south florida .

PS I have a conection than can process but he is "mother teresa" in drag

PSS How much have all the guys saying"Ibill Sucks"..etc..etc
really lost?? How about ACH? I dont know your buiness...and from the look of the playrs..I might throw my "hat" into the ring (provide there was bucu bucks and get :lovr mr long time"
lol if you only knew , .. your in the wrong place...
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Old 06-15-2006, 06:41 PM   #15
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Oh, guess what? It's the 15th, and random parts of our banking details mysteriously disappeared again! How amazing! Maybe David Copperfield could take lessons from them!

And still not paid in full from the 1st. Not like anybody is surprised, at this point.
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Old 06-15-2006, 06:58 PM   #16
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Oh, guess what? It's the 15th, and random parts of our banking details mysteriously disappeared again! How amazing! Maybe David Copperfield could take lessons from them!

And still not paid in full from the 1st. Not like anybody is surprised, at this point.
you didn't receive the last wire on monday then? myself and others that i know w/ some rebills did receive ours for what its worth..
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:40 PM   #17
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Those Mutha Fuckers Pulled My Wire Details Out Very Few Days!

Fuck Those Assholes And There Fake Rebilling Shit!

You Wont See A Dime, Take All Your User Names And Passes Out And Dump Em, Let Them Eat Some Charge Backs!
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Old 06-15-2006, 07:41 PM   #18
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:32 PM   #19
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you didn't receive the last wire on monday then? myself and others that i know w/ some rebills did receive ours for what its worth..
We received roughly half of what they owed us from the 1st. But not the full payment.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:56 PM   #20
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We received roughly half of what they owed us from the 1st. But not the full payment.
We got a wire but it was about two thirds of what was owed.

If they are going to do it so badly why bother...It seems they are doing just enough to keep the suckers in the game so they can shylock their asses.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:57 PM   #21
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Now they are saying they can't pay us the rest of the money from the 1st because they are having problems with the check transactions... And they can't pay us the money from the 15th because there is some kind of problem with the payout file.

Yeah.
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Old 06-21-2006, 04:10 PM   #22
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Im amazed anyone is still using these asswipes. You will never get your money and all the time members have access to your site its costing you money! Bandwidth and the dilution of you content. Just do what was stated above cut off all Ibill / Etelegate members and their rebills and let those assholes get a ton of CBs.

All you are doing is keeping them ( Ibill Maturebill and Etelegate ) in business and they know it they read these boards. Dont hang on for the few bucks you might get cut your losses and ditch them today
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I spoke(wrote too soon) I have read some more of your posts and you try,"attempt" to enlighted some lost souls..I don't know why the Ibill accounts were frozed..but if you lost money, (and dont belive you did) I could point you or an attoney south florida .

PS I have a conection than can process but he is "mother teresa" in drag

PSS How much have all the guys saying"Ibill Sucks"..etc..etc
really lost?? How about ACH? I dont know your buiness...and from the look of the playrs..I might throw my "hat" into the ring (provide there was bucu bucks and get :lovr mr long time"
They no longer owe me a dime Oxford - managed to get that settled prob over a year ago now.

The basic stuff that still continues - and is commonly known, is the whole iBill "sale" in the first instance has some questions attached. From that time onwards, it has been nothing but a total sham by convicted fraudsters and others, - where every family member or "associate" has been convicted of everything from drug manufacturing to corporate fraud.

Attempts have been made to introduce new "faces", but when ya check these out, - they too have criminal convictions attached, and, - the type of convictions which don't lend cred to these individuals handling the funds of other parties (eg webmasters) - they simply can't be trusted with 5 cents.

These people "play" with corp paperwork - depending on what day it is - and shuffle companies from one side of the desk to the other, but there is "significance" to their shuffling. The significance can be ass-covering, we-are-all-new-and-clean scenarios or basic fraud.

Only my but would like to see the day arrive (and little doubts it will) where they are all thrown in jail pending "chats" and convicted of respective offenses from the ground up to the main instigators at the head of the tree.
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