Registering expired domains in the grace period

[angelsofporn]

Is there a better way to get expired domains in the grace period than namewinner...I've top bids on tons of them and have for over a month and i havent gotten a single one.. Any one know another tool. Or any one have experience with them?

[Fletch XXX]

I just buy expired ones - I think most people are on top of their domains, I could be wrong,...

[angelsofporn]

Isnt there a good company or script that can buffer my efforts?

[JimmyReject]

NetSol hang onto names for ages, they kept one of the ones I let expire for 11 months.

There is some way to get expired names straight away [I think via netsol company] but they charge about $70 a year.

[mike503]

i've talked with someone at verisign personally. they don't even know when domains get deleted. sometimes they stick around for a year after the expiration date, sometimes they're gone quickly. ever notice how ones that have some sort of value just hang out there? it's bullshit.

i asked him, if it's an automated process and the registry engine does it, how can nobody know? he was fucking clueless.

it's just more corruptness in the netsol/verisign space. it's bullshit. no other scripts or companies can help you, verisign owns the master registry. everything else is a sham. the bidding places probably just help figure out which domains are popular so the owners can take them and resell them

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by angelsofporn
Is there a better way to get expired domains in the grace period than namewinner...I've top bids on tons of them and have for over a month and i havent gotten a single one.. Any one know another tool. Or any one have experience with them?

The people who get almost all of the good ones these days have their own scripts and private deals with registrars. If you don't have 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to put into it, plus tens of thousands of dollars to play with, an amazing programmer, and some relationships with the right registrars, forget it. Even if you do have all that, NetSol is going to change the rules soon enough. Within the year, all the scripters will probably be out of luck as NetSol goes to a bidding system for expiring domains.

[posh rat in hell]

In regards to network solutions:
Record expires on 12-Mar-2000.
Record created on 12-Mar-1998.
Database last updated on 25-May-2002 20:57:45 EDT.

Yeah, I'll say they let domains sit for a while past expiration date.

[JimmyReject]

http://www.snapnames.com/nsi/network...9&dom=poop.com


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Is the domain name you want already taken?

If so, like hundreds of thousands every month, it may soon expire and become available again. You can now "back-order" your name with SnapBack?

When you Back-Order a name:
SnapBack will monitor the name around the clock, "24/7", so you don't have to.
If it becomes available during the next year, SnapBack will attempt to acquire the name for you the moment it becomes available.
The cost of a successful registration is included in the $69 price.
If the original registrant renews, or we were otherwise not able to register the name, you can transfer your subscription to a new name without cost.

[mike503]

Originally posted by JimmyReject
http://www.snapnames.com/nsi/network...9&dom=poop.com


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Is the domain name you want already taken?

If so, like hundreds of thousands every month, it may soon expire and become available again. You can now "back-order" your name with SnapBack?

When you Back-Order a name:
SnapBack will monitor the name around the clock, "24/7", so you don't have to.
If it becomes available during the next year, SnapBack will attempt to acquire the name for you the moment it becomes available.
The cost of a successful registration is included in the $69 price.
If the original registrant renews, or we were otherwise not able to register the name, you can transfer your subscription to a new name without cost.

riddle me this batman. what if two people use this snapback service on the same domain? logic would say that the first person would get it, but who knows with these systems. i'd say neither do =)

[JimmyReject]

buydomains, then they can charge $5,000

[Keev]

There are better ways but knowing is half the battle yo joe

[Dax]

NameWinner is very good.. i just that ultsearch is picking everything up.

I use NW, snapnames and expirefish - for the lesser important ones-

[angelsofporn]

What would you say is the best?

[mike503]

Originally posted by Dax
NameWinner is very good.. i just that ultsearch is picking everything up.

I use NW, snapnames and expirefish - for the lesser important ones-

have any of these ever gotten you a high profile domain, or something with a decent resale value?

[Fletch XXX]

Nice...

[Dax]

Originally posted by mike503


have any of these ever gotten you a high profile domain, or something with a decent resale value?

I have not picked up any $100.000 domains with neither one, but I know of a few ppl who have picked up a few, that are very good. Anyways the value of a domain is just what someone else is willing to pay for one.

Problem is, the people over at ult search are picking 95% of the good domains, since enom is hooking them up.

My main thing is the spanish language market and I have picked up a few real good domains with all 3, specially NW, thing is with NW you are bound to pay what is worth... since it is auction.. based.

Whatever you choose, good luck!

[marzzo]

I've never used Namewinner or ExpireFish but I've had 100% success rate with SnapNames. The good thing is that only ONE person can use the snap-back feature per domain.

I recommend SnapNames.

My 2 cents...

[mike503]

Originally posted by marzzo
I've never used Namewinner or ExpireFish but I've had 100% success rate with SnapNames. The good thing is that only ONE person can use the snap-back feature per domain.

I recommend SnapNames.

My 2 cents...

that's fine and dandy if the whole world used snapnames. too bad there's 30 other companies out there who claim the same kind of shit. they might police their own system decently, but the whole game is a bunch of bologna (baloney.)

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by mike503


that's fine and dandy if the whole world used snapnames. too bad there's 30 other companies out there who claim the same kind of shit. they might police their own system decently, but the whole game is a bunch of bologna (baloney.)

My success rate with Snap is less than 10%, maybe less than 1% lately. If anyone has seen 100% success rate, then they are either going for unpopular domains or they tried it a couple of times and got real real lucky.

Unless you have your own registrar connections and your own scripts and a massive amount of knowledge on how the whole thing works, you aren't going to get anything with consistency.

[marzzo]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


My success rate with Snap is less than 10%, maybe less than 1% lately. If anyone has seen 100% success rate, then they are either going for unpopular domains or they tried it a couple of times and got real real lucky.

Unless you have your own registrar connections and your own scripts and a massive amount of knowledge on how the whole thing works, you aren't going to get anything with consistency.

I've only used SnapNames 5 times, so thus 100% success. True, ya gotta have either a registrar connection or amazing luck to be a serious playa. Lots of buck$ helps too.

[mike503]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


My success rate with Snap is less than 10%, maybe less than 1% lately. If anyone has seen 100% success rate, then they are either going for unpopular domains or they tried it a couple of times and got real real lucky.

Unless you have your own registrar connections and your own scripts and a massive amount of knowledge on how the whole thing works, you aren't going to get anything with consistency.

exactly. and the more popular this market gets, the more companies that will spring up promising you to get your domains, which means an even less chance of getting the ones you want.

[mike503]

"There are currently 0 domain names in our list.

If there are no domain names in the list it is not because the search is broken or not working. It is because we have not uploaded a new list yet. There are times when there are several days between drops and there are no names to put in the list or we have just not gotten to it yet."


namewinner looks really professional there...

and i'm happy. snap already has the domain i want as being taken. either way i'm fucked out of it. fuck you netsol/verisign.

Record expires on 31-Oct-2001.

[marzzo]

NetSol sucks ass. Here are dates for one domain I'm keeping and eye on:

Record expires on 03-Dec-2000.
Record created on 03-Dec-1998.

Expired for 2.5 fucking YEARS?! Somebody knows what's going on, and it sure as hell isn't me.

[mike503]

Originally posted by marzzo
NetSol sucks ass. Here are dates for one domain I'm keeping and eye on:

Record expires on 03-Dec-2000.
Record created on 03-Dec-1998.

Expired for 2.5 fucking YEARS?! Somebody knows what's going on, and it sure as hell isn't me.

when i had the netsol jackoff on the phone, he told me "in fact, i know of a domain right now that is 8 months expired.." and i said "why can't you go and delete it manually. i mean, if you know someone hasn't paid for it and it's still working for them.. does this mean i didn't have to pay for my domains back in the day? i could have saved a lot of money."

he said "well this department doesn't control that.." - typical nazi command line excuse. "i just do what i'm told.. place responsibility over there ->" type of shit.

[Brujah]

the main dropcatchers are:
www.snapnames.com
www.namewinner.com
www.nicgenie.com
www.expirefish.com

there are a few "private" ones, that I wouldn't tell anyone. the other methods require a lot more cash and some require a lot of programming.