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12clicks · 07-16-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf

I was just kidding, of course

No, I really WAS calling you fat.

07-16-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

No, I really WAS calling you fat.

me? fat?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf

me? fat?

I don't know. yes?

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 05:45 PM

Great thread...couple of quick questions from a newbie

What do you believe would be a reasonable estimate as to the net earnings of some of the more senior webmasters on this site?

Are CJ2 sites the way to go or would you suggest TGP?

What would be the best way to purchase a domain name that already has SE traffic?

GeXus · 07-16-2003, 05:49 PM

How do I get #1 placement on the hun

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
Great thread...couple of quick questions from a newbie

What do you believe would be a reasonable estimate as to the net earnings of some of the more senior webmasters on this site?

20k a year. no shit.

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Originally posted by photoshop777
Are CJ2 sites the way to go or would you suggest TGP?

I don't care for either but if you must, TGP.

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Originally posted by photoshop777
What would be the best way to purchase a domain name that already has SE traffic?

surf thru the SEs and look for sites that don't look updated and write the guy an email.

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by GeXus
How do I get #1 placement on the hun

Ask him how much it costs and then pay.

MrSpeed · 07-16-2003, 06:36 PM

If someone came up to you and said I want to make some money on the internet what would you say ?

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 06:46 PM

Can you please explain the business model for paysites.

They pay webmasters $40 per signup. They offer the surfer a 3 day trial membership for $3.95 or a 1 month membership for $30.

Most surfers don't stick around very long I would assume. Taking that into account and bandwidth costs, how can a paysite be profitable?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by MrSpeed
If someone came up to you and said I want to make some money on the internet what would you say ?

Go work for a porn company and learn. Once you understand the business, strike out on your own.
unless your a chick, then just give me a call.

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
Can you please explain the business model for paysites.

They pay webmasters $40 per signup. They offer the surfer a 3 day trial membership for $3.95 or a 1 month membership for $30.

Most surfers don't stick around very long I would assume. Taking that into account and bandwidth costs, how can a paysite be profitable?

well, plenty of people WILL forget to cancel so you make the recurring. Exits are worth something, there are plenty of signups that come in "untracked"
All those things fall to the bottom line.

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 06:52 PM

What is it that makes thehun.com so profitable. For the surfers it's great, the site treats them royally, but there really is no force to buy anything.

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

well, plenty of people WILL forget to cancel so you make the recurring. Exits are worth something, there are plenty of signups that come in "untracked"
All those things fall to the bottom line.

You mentioned earlier that surfers were to smart for CJ sites. Would you suggest that I create a TGP or AVS site to begin with?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
What is it that makes thehun.com so profitable. For the surfers it's great, the site treats them royally, but there really is no force to buy anything.

sheer volume.
give me a million people a day and I'll make sales on dogshit.

Marcus · 07-16-2003, 06:58 PM

12clicks,

If you were going to start a personals site, what would you do to generate excitement to get people to join? How do you make it look like it's a busy site with a lot of action going on?

When you start it theres noone joined yet so every search will bring up 0 results.

Would you write up fake profiles with fake pictures?

Also if you allow people to send you nudes of themselves and you post them are you really openning yourself up to legal action or are sites like voyeurweb pretty well protected against legal action?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777

You mentioned earlier that surfers were to smart for CJ sites. Would you suggest that I create a TGP or AVS site to begin with?

actually, my first choice would be a paysite. then if you must, a tgp.
a successful tgp is a very time consuming thing

Marcus · 07-16-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

actually, my first choice would be a paysite. then if you must, a tgp.
a successful tgp is a very time consuming thing

You dont like avs?
I was just thinking that, is this a bad time to get into avs if you've never made avs sites before?

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 07:06 PM

12clicks, thanks for your open answers, it's great to learn some stuff about this industry.

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus
12clicks,

If you were going to start a personals site, what would you do to generate excitement to get people to join? How do you make it look like it's a busy site with a lot of action going on?

When you start it theres noone joined yet so every search will bring up 0 results.

Would you write up fake profiles with fake pictures?

Also if you allow people to send you nudes of themselves and you post them are you really openning yourself up to legal action or are sites like voyeurweb pretty well protected against legal action?

I'd buy real profiles from an established personals site then try to trade or give traffic to that site to build a biz relationship and hopefully entice them to mentor you in the biz.
if people submitted nudes, I would put them in a seperate area so people would not stumble upon them by accident but only see them if they wanted to.
I wouldn't worry about the legalities.

Marcus · 07-16-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I'd buy real profiles from an established personals site then try to trade or give traffic to that site to build a biz relationship and hopefully entice them to mentor you in the biz.
if people submitted nudes, I would put them in a seperate area so people would not stumble upon them by accident but only see them if they wanted to.
I wouldn't worry about the legalities.

ah I didn't know other personals sites would be open to this. I figured they wouldn't want new competition.

Thanks 12clicks

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

You dont like avs?
I was just thinking that, is this a bad time to get into avs if you've never made avs sites before?

I really think it is a bad time but I've always had a bias against them so take that with a grain of salt.
There may be avs guys who will tell you to go for it but without someone knowledgable's help, I don't see how you'd succeed.

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
12clicks, thanks for your open answers, it's great to learn some stuff about this industry.

how do you know I'm telling the truth?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Marcus

ah I didn't know other personals sites would be open to this. I figured they wouldn't want new competition.

Thanks 12clicks

they ALL might not be but you only need one to say yes.

photoshop777 · 07-16-2003, 07:24 PM

In starting a pay site, what would you consider the minimum amount of content, ie pics, movies, stories, live feeds?

Would you consider doing this all in house or outsourcing it to knowledgeable vendors? If you chose the later, what are some of the more well known vendors?

How often would you update a paysite?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
In starting a pay site, what would you consider the minimum amount of content, ie pics, movies, stories, live feeds?

Would you consider doing this all in house or outsourcing it to knowledgeable vendors? If you chose the later, what are some of the more well known vendors?

How often would you update a paysite?

Shit, you could have build a whole paysite with the big sale jstyles had last month.
There is so much cheap content out there to buy in bulk, building a paysite is easy. And don't worry about it being unique. what are the chances that joe surfer has seen all your content before? slim. update every 3 days. do everything inhouse. DO NOT give part of your earnings to anyone.

its ok to buy some movie plugins but thats it.

completetosser · 07-16-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

how do you know I'm telling the truth?

Because you are at God's right hand

Plan9 · 07-16-2003, 07:33 PM

Do you think the industry is oversaturated with people just trying to make a quick buck? And will this hurt the chances of someone just starting out?

12clicks · 07-16-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
Do you think the industry is oversaturated with people just trying to make a quick buck? And will this hurt the chances of someone just starting out?

sure, the average age of webmasters here is abour 22. not worldly enough or business savvy enough to see beyond tomorrow.
yes, it will hurt everyone's entry into the biz

TheGuyWhoKnows · 07-16-2003, 07:54 PM

how long is your dick 12Clicks?

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by TheGuyWhoKnows
how long is your dick 12Clicks?

I've never messured but its been said many times in this business that I have big balls.

mistersoft · 07-17-2003, 09:23 AM

Hi 12clicks,

and thank you for the best thread I have read on this forum.

My personal goal within this biz is to promote a single use plastic pussy which the user fills with warm water. I think it is a good idea, since the user will want to use it while surfing for free (or paid porn). It is also a nice product in that many who order it once, will order it again and again and again. I also hope that this may be a good product to market as the porn is quite saturated.

I have two goals.
First and most important I want as many webmasters as possible to join the affiliate program.

Secondly I would like to get people to buy the product.

What would your recommendations be?

Thanx,
mister soft

eiht_98 · 07-17-2003, 09:46 AM

are u still answering questions

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by mistersoft
Hi 12clicks,

and thank you for the best thread I have read on this forum.

My personal goal within this biz is to promote a single use plastic pussy which the user fills with warm water. I think it is a good idea, since the user will want to use it while surfing for free (or paid porn). It is also a nice product in that many who order it once, will order it again and again and again. I also hope that this may be a good product to market as the porn is quite saturated.

I have two goals.
First and most important I want as many webmasters as possible to join the affiliate program.

Secondly I would like to get people to buy the product.

What would your recommendations be?

Thanx,
mister soft

you could entice webmasters to sell it by giving one to every webmaster who makes at least 5 sales. That would be one way to get affiliates. Outside of that, get the product out there. Buy TGP banner spots and the like so its seen by tons of eyeballs. Use a easily remembered url on the banner and make the front page memorable.
Use testimonials like, "This is the best pussy I've ever had. It does everything but cook"
revshare with all of the big sex toy product sellers.
That's a start.

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by eiht_98
are u still answering questions

yes

photoshop777 · 07-17-2003, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

Shit, you could have build a whole paysite with the big sale jstyles had last month.
There is so much cheap content out there to buy in bulk, building a paysite is easy.

So why is it that people say you need 10K or there abouts to start a paysite?

photoshop777 · 07-17-2003, 05:35 PM

So heres the big question for 12clicks. Would you take me under your wing and train me in the ways to financial freedom. Kind of like my own personal trainer

mistersoft · 07-17-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

you could entice webmasters to sell it by giving one to every webmaster who makes at least 5 sales. That would be one way to get affiliates. Outside of that, get the product out there. Buy TGP banner spots and the like so its seen by tons of eyeballs. Use a easily remembered url on the banner and make the front page memorable.
Use testimonials like, "This is the best pussy I've ever had. It does everything but cook"
revshare with all of the big sex toy product sellers.
That's a start.

Thanx. Good solid advice as far as I can judge. Will follow.

(*proudly* the part about free samples to webmasters is already implemented :-) )

I have one detail question though, what is revshare and how does one set it up?

Mister Soft

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777

So why is it that people say you need 10K or there abouts to start a paysite?

to scare people away.

Fabuleux · 07-17-2003, 06:46 PM

Can you make this thread longer then that one one Sexeducation?

Ahh Please...

What do you think of my new site? (you can spit on it, as long as I can learn from it.)

SexpicsNOW!

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by photoshop777
So heres the big question for 12clicks. Would you take me under your wing and train me in the ways to financial freedom. Kind of like my own personal trainer

Nope, I'm way to busy. If I'm not mistaken, none of the questions in this thread deals with what I REALLY do. This is all just knowledge of come by along the road leading to where I am now.
I'm always happy to point people in the right direction via icq but to actually take someone under my wing, I just don't have that kind of time.

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by mistersoft

Thanx. Good solid advice as far as I can judge. Will follow.

(*proudly* the part about free samples to webmasters is already implemented :-) )

I have one detail question though, what is revshare and how does one set it up?

Mister Soft

revshare, you know, just splitting profits with your partner.
You won't get anyone to BUY your goods wholesale to re-sell them but you will get people to sell YOUR stock and just take a piece of the profit.

07-17-2003, 06:50 PM

how old are you?
can you post a picture of your car and your house?
how much do you make a year on average?
why did you choose the nickname 12clicks?

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Fabuleux
Can you make this thread longer then that one one Sexeducation?

Ahh Please...

What do you think of my new site? (you can spit on it, as long as I can learn from it.)

SexpicsNOW!

a quick look has me wondering where you plan on making money?
its TOO free.

for example, your amateur links should have different sponsors for each gallery. DIFFERENT. same with your other categories. let them see every sponsor on the planet. They need choices or at least the opportunity to see something new in a sponsor.
I do like the layout and all but there's so much free stuff! a surfer could live there for free and never pull out a CC.

Fabuleux · 07-17-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

a quick look has me wondering where you plan on making money?
its TOO free.
for example, your amateur links should have different sponsors for each gallery. DIFFERENT. same with your other categories. let them see every sponsor on the planet. They need choices or at least the opportunity to see something new in a sponsor.
I do like the layout and all but there's so much free stuff! a surfer could live there for free and never pull out a CC.

I need some script that can handle a shitload of galleries and thumbs, but there are so many, don't know what to buy

But thanks, I make it less "free"

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf
how old are you?
can you post a picture of your car and your house?
how much do you make a year on average?
why did you choose the nickname 12clicks?

39
my car has been posted before E320 nothing special.
don't think I have a pic of the house. 6900sq ft of living space, library (full of books), wine cellar (with wine), granite, marble, ceramic, pavers outside, murals, the usual.
I make more than I ever thought possible 7 yrs ago.
My nickname comes from serge. when I first started in this biz I sent him traffic because of mojo. upon meeting serge he made fun of me by saying,"oh yeah, I know bigron 12clicks" It was a humbling experience and as my traffic grew I decided that it was funny to be someone with more clicks than god announcing he only has 12.

07-17-2003, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I make more than I ever thought possible 7 yrs ago.

that is not a number...
how much do you make a year? in NUMBERS?

12clicks · 07-17-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf

that is not a number...
how much do you make a year? in NUMBERS?

I'm not telling.

malakajoe · 07-17-2003, 07:18 PM

Say you have a small amateur site....just one girl who is doing it for a little extra cash.

What would be the best way to promote this site, since not many major players will use your as an affiliate?

What would be the best way to get quality traffic, since friends pages and tgp traffic doesn't do well for smaller sites?

I have this burning itch all around my butthole after getting very drunk and passing in a biker bar. How can I cure it?

07-17-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I'm not telling.

then I guess your NOT answering ALL questions

THIS THREAD IS A FAKE!

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photoshop777 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	Great thread...couple of quick questions from a newbie What do you believe would be a reasonable estimate as to the net earnings of some of the more senior webmasters on this site? Are CJ2 sites the way to go or would you suggest TGP? What would be the best way to purchase a domain name that already has SE traffic?

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photoshop777 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	Can you please explain the business model for paysites. They pay webmasters $40 per signup. They offer the surfer a 3 day trial membership for $3.95 or a 1 month membership for $30. Most surfers don't stick around very long I would assume. Taking that into account and bandwidth costs, how can a paysite be profitable?

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photoshop777 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	What is it that makes thehun.com so profitable. For the surfers it's great, the site treats them royally, but there really is no force to buy anything.

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Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	12clicks, If you were going to start a personals site, what would you do to generate excitement to get people to join? How do you make it look like it's a busy site with a lot of action going on? When you start it theres noone joined yet so every search will bring up 0 results. Would you write up fake profiles with fake pictures? Also if you allow people to send you nudes of themselves and you post them are you really openning yourself up to legal action or are sites like voyeurweb pretty well protected against legal action?

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photoshop777 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	12clicks, thanks for your open answers, it's great to learn some stuff about this industry.

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photoshop777 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 24	So heres the big question for 12clicks. Would you take me under your wing and train me in the ways to financial freedom. Kind of like my own personal trainer

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