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E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 06:33 AM

What is the principal difference btw those?
I am orthodox.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 06:56 AM

i was in a chirch this weekend and they told us during the liturgia that the movie Da Vincis' Code is against God. I thought tha was only about catholic chirch!

lilith_godess · 05-29-2006, 06:57 AM

i was a catholic since 14...now i am an atheist...

HpicAnn · 05-29-2006, 07:01 AM

Both are religions, hidding a lot of things about God.
Religions were created by the human being to control people and keep blind them. All of them tell you that they have the REAL TRUTH.....
The real church is inside of you..!!!

Buzz · 05-29-2006, 07:08 AM

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As for the difference - catholic church pays more attention to: the fact of Virgin Birth and God's Mother; the doctrine of the purgatory - a place between the Hell and the Heaven; a homage of relics, a cult of martyrs, saints and blessed.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lilith_godess

i was a catholic since 14...now i am an atheist...

is it connected with some story?

KRL · 05-29-2006, 07:11 AM

Orthodox is hardcore ultra strict judaism.

lilith_godess · 05-29-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristie

is it connected with some story?

yes...but it is a looooooong story....church means brainwash!

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HpicAnn

Both are religions, hidding a lot of things about God.
Religions were created by the human being to control people and keep blind them. All of them tell you that they have the REAL TRUTH.....
The real church is inside of you..!!!

you are absolutely right. that is what i say all the time!

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Orthodox is hardcore ultra strict judaism.

he's talking about orthodox christians...

Eastern Orthodox Church
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodoxy )

The Eastern Orthodox Church (encompassing national Orthodox jurisdictions such as Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, etc.?see Eastern Orthodox Church organization) is a body of Christians that claims origins extending directly back to Jesus and his Apostles through unbroken Apostolic Succession. Its doctrines were formalized through a series of church councils, the most authoritative being the Seven Ecumenical Councils held between the 4th and 8th centuries. These councils were convened out of the necessity to resolve conflicts that had developed concerning beliefs such as Arianism, Nestorianism, and Monothelitism. Toward the end of its first thousand years of existence, differences developed between the Church in the Eastern and Western Roman Empire that ultimately led to the Great Schism in 1054, dividing Chalcedonian Christianity into Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.

Based on numbers of adherents, Eastern Orthodoxy is the second largest Christian communion in the world after the Roman Catholic Church, and the third largest grouping overall after Protestantism. There are approximately 215 million Eastern Orthodox Christians worldwide.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lilith_godess

yes...but it is a looooooong story....church means brainwash!

that is about the chirch, what about you. You can believe without going to chirch!

Juggernaut · 05-29-2006, 07:17 AM

The Catholic church believes that there is a hierarchy in the Holy Trinity; The Holy Spirit, The Father and The Son.

The Orthodox church believes they are one in the same... or; to put it better, on equal ground.

The Catholic church believes that Mary was born without sin.

The Orthodox church believes that it is impossible for Mary to have been born without sin, this would mean she wasn't human.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

he's talking about orthodox christians...

Eastern Orthodox Church
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodoxy )

The Eastern Orthodox Church (encompassing national Orthodox jurisdictions such as Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, etc.?see Eastern Orthodox Church organization) is a body of Christians that claims origins extending directly back to Jesus and his Apostles through unbroken Apostolic Succession. Its doctrines were formalized through a series of church councils, the most authoritative being the Seven Ecumenical Councils held between the 4th and 8th centuries. These councils were convened out of the necessity to resolve conflicts that had developed concerning beliefs such as Arianism, Nestorianism, and Monothelitism. Toward the end of its first thousand years of existence, differences developed between the Church in the Eastern and Western Roman Empire that ultimately led to the Great Schism in 1054, dividing Chalcedonian Christianity into Western Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy.

Based on numbers of adherents, Eastern Orthodoxy is the second largest Christian communion in the world after the Roman Catholic Church, and the third largest grouping overall after Protestantism. There are approximately 215 million Eastern Orthodox Christians worldwide.

thank you. The explanation is so exact!

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

The Catholic church believes that there is a hierarchy in the Holy Trinity; The Holy Spirit, The Father and The Son.

The Orthodox church believes they are one in the same... or; to put it better, on equal ground.

The Catholic church believes that Mary was born without sin.

The Orthodox church believes that it is impossible for Mary to have been born without sin, this would mean she wasn't human.

Orthdoxs are right. How could she be born without sin?

Antonio · 05-29-2006, 07:43 AM

I'm orthodox. The difference? When you make a cross the catholics touch their left tit first, we touch our right first, hope that helps.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 07:49 AM

i knew that . that is not an impostant difference

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

I'm orthodox. The difference? When you make a cross the catholics touch their left tit first, we touch our right first, hope that helps.

thnx, just learned something.
btw: Do you know the reason for this?

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 08:03 AM

i am not sure about the reason - catholics and orthodoxes had a fight about that too before they made at least some kind of deal, but they are still not very friendly. We hoped that the new pope will try to make things better, but i can't see the results.

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:10 AM

"Divorce and Re-Marriage - Catholics have been allowing divorce since Vatican II. However, Catholics who divorce and re-marry without observing the Church's canons are denied the Communion. At an Orthodox wedding, you get a "crowning ceremony." This joins you and your spouse in spirit. You can get divorced and remarry, but you only get one crowning ceremony. Re-marriages, as I understand it, are just a formality to allow procreation."

"Statues and Crucifixes - Orthodox use "Icons" for prayer, which are two-dimensional, painted and blessed "windows into heaven." They are also two dimensional because icons are to portray spiritual truths and not to focus on the physical. Catholics use 3D statuettes of Christ, the Theotokos, and the Saints. This is forbidden by Lev. 26:1.

3-D renderings of Christ are strictly forbidden. Thus, Orthodox do not wear crucifixes. We also have jewelry depictions of the Crucifixion, but the Corpus is generally two dimensional and flat. "

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:11 AM

"Immaculate Conception - Catholics believe Mary to have been born protected by God from the soul stain of "Original Sin." Orthodox do not believe in Original Sin."

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:11 AM

"Orthodox clergy are allowed to be married. Catholic are not. Non-Latin Rite Catholic priests may be married. Orthodox are also allowed to live and work outside of the Church with their family whereas Catholics must live in the sanctuary."

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:13 AM

"Triclavianism - Orthodox believe 4 nails were used to affix the Lord to His Cross. One in each hand, one in each foot. Catholics believe 3 nails were used."

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:18 AM

"With rare exceptions, such as an Abbess or a women designated by an Abbess to clean, women are not allowed in an Orthodox Sanctuary where the alter is located."

"There are no orders of Orthodox monks (male and female) as there are among Roman Catholics"

"The Roman view on Original Sin is different. Following largely Augustine of Hippo, the West believes, although has never declared doctrinal, the view that we somehow inherit the Sin of Adam, and not just the consequences of that sin. The Orthodox Church has always held that Original Sin is about the consequences of Adam's Sin (how can we be responsible for someone else's personal sin?). These consequences are basically death, concupiscence and our tendency toward sin in our nature.

As a result of this view, the West has declared the Mother of God to be Conceived Immaculately, without the Sin of Adam and to have been assumed into Heaven body and soul.

The Orthodox Church has always believed that the Mother of God is the highest person above all humanity and the angels owing to her role as Mother of the Word Incarnate. She believes that the Mother of God was perfectly holy and most holy and sinless."

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 08:20 AM

Stop, u-Bob What about the crusifixes? Orthodoxes wear it but not 3d. Crist is on the cross painted or engraived.

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 08:25 AM

What was the original : Catholics? And orthodoxes developped from it with the help of Apostle Andrew?

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristie

What was the original

see my first post...

E$_manager · 05-29-2006, 08:51 AM

A! thank you.
Why you know so much about all this?

Juggernaut · 05-29-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristie

A! thank you.
Why you know so much about all this?

http://www.google.com

rip raster · 05-29-2006, 09:45 AM

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baddog · 05-29-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Orthodox is hardcore ultra strict judaism.

Orthodox is hardly related to just Judism. There are many Christian Orthodox religions.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

The Catholic church believes that there is a hierarchy in the Holy Trinity; The Holy Spirit, The Father and The Son.

Really? When did this happen? I was raised Roman Catholic and they never said the Holy Trinity was not of equal status. However, since whenever they are mentioned together in prayer, I would have to say if there was a hierarchy it would the The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

I'm orthodox. The difference? When you make a cross the catholics touch their left tit first, we touch our right first, hope that helps.

Never knew that. So, when making the sign of the cross, do you say in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, or some other order?

Manowar · 05-29-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Orthodox is hardcore ultra strict judaism.

Ahhh, never knew that

baddog · 05-29-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

"Catholics must live in the sanctuary."

Juggernaut · 05-29-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Orthodox is hardly related to just Judism. There are many Christian Orthodox religions.

Yeah, Orthodox also means strict, honest and or, original.

Orthodox Jews and those that come from a Roman/European Orthodoxy background, have nothing in common aside from the word itself.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Ahhh, never knew that

Because it isn't accurate.

Juggernaut · 05-29-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Really? When did this happen? I was raised Roman Catholic and they never said the Holy Trinity was not of equal status. However, since whenever they are mentioned together in prayer, I would have to say if there was a hierarchy it would the The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

My assertion is based on memory. I've had this conversation before and the two differences I mentioned above, are the two main reasons the two religions parted ways in the... 11th century, or something.

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Sex4it · 05-29-2006, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

The Catholic church believes that there is a hierarchy in the Holy Trinity; The Holy Spirit, The Father and The Son.

The Orthodox church believes they are one in the same... or; to put it better, on equal ground.

The Catholic church believes that Mary was born without sin.

The Orthodox church believes that it is impossible for Mary to have been born without sin, this would mean she wasn't human.

I'm orthodox from Romania Estern Europe ... ALL THAT IS CRAP MAN!

I can't tell you the real diffrence other that of POLITICS
They catholics and orthodox were ONE AND THE SAME untill they broke in two ... the diffrence I see is that you celebrate Easter earlier than we do.

baddog · 05-29-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggernaut

My assertion is based on memory. I've had this conversation before and the two differences I mentioned above, are the two main reasons the two religions parted ways in the... 11th century, or something.

Your memory either fails you, or you were givien incorrect data.

u-Bob · 05-29-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Your memory either fails you, or you were givien incorrect data.

a disagreement on the role/importance of the Holy Spirit was one of the reason they split up.

"Finally, Roman Catholicism teaches that the Holy Spirit "proceeds from the Father and the Son" (filioque). In so doing, it spurned the Apostolic Tradition which always taught that God the Father is the single Source ("monarchy") of the Son and the Spirit.[...]"
http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/ortho_cath.html

"The Orthodox Church keeps the original Nicene Creed, accepted by the Universal Church, East and West, during the first millennium without the addition of "And the Son" or the "Filioque." [...] The West decided to add "And the Son" which is a philosophical conclusion, without warrant, in fact, in Scripture or the Fathers. It was not so much Orthodox Rome that adopted the addition to the Creed, as it was the Frankish theologians of Charlemagne [...] This addition to the Creed in the West led to the eventual break between the two Churches beginning in 1054 and solidifying finally at the Sack of Constantinople in the thirteenth century by the western Crusaders [...] In general, the role of the Holy Spirit Himself seemed to be downplayed."
http://www.unicorne.org/orthodoxy/ar...x-catholic.htm

"1.) "Which are the more important theological differences between Orthodox and Catholic church."

+ The Roman Church has departed from the orthodox understanding of who and what God Himself is as Trinity. Prior to the Great Schism of the Western Church from the Eastern Church, Spanish Christians (who held the hetertical teachings of the priest Arius) held to and taught that the 2nd Person of the Trinity mediated the procession of the 3rd Person of the Trinity thus diminishing the prominence of the Godhead (the 1st Person of the Trinity as 'Father')! Rome eventually accepted this error and maintains it to this day in their Credo, "And I believe in the Holy Spirit...Who proceeds from the Father and the Son...".

Notice how this differs from the Orthodox or True Credo: "And I believe in the Holy Spirit..Who proceeds from the Father. And together with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified..." Christianity believes in One God not two or three! All comes from the Father. The Son is a generation of the Father ("begotten of the Father") while His holy Spirit is a procession of the Father ("Who proceeds from the Father"). God the Son who became Christ (as both fully God and fully Man) only mediates between the Father and all of His creation. Christ does not mediate within the Triunity of God rather Christ (2nd Person of the Trinity; The Son) is obedient to the Father (Godhead). "
http://experts.about.com/q/Eastern-O...-Catholics.htm

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