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				CSS designers.
			 
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			Do you draw a detailed sketch out on paper? Do a mock up in Photoshop? I usually code from scratch with maybe a drawing...I'm looking for maybe an easier method of envisioning the site. 
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		 p.s.  madawgz stay the fuck out of this thread. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Ps mockup.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 PS mockup - always, always 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Gridpaper >> Photoshop >> Dreamweaver 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Although I do all my usual design work in PS , I use fireworks to attack a CSS design , I'm not sure what it is .. but it just flows better for that type of design for me ..  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Mind you I've been considering the switch to fireworks for all my design .. I'm fuckin tired of PS . 
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		 thanks for the advice. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			aico...gridpaper seems interesting. might give it a shot. won't have to do much alt+tabbing 
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		2hpI usually start by downloasding the CSS file of a site I like and want to rip -- 
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