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Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-25-2006 03:29 PM

i did not read anything but the first post in this thread and all i gotta say is..


<3 EPIC CASH

Damian_Maxcash 05-25-2006 03:36 PM

EpicJim - you really shouldnt let Pimpdog know your password.

Or perhaps you are....... - oh hang on - I will let the others work it out for themselves. :)

OldSchoolJim 05-25-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wedouglas
could care less what shady practices you have as long as i get paid. I knew about pre checked things and trial recurring prices way before i was a webmaster. if people dont see these things, too bad. I did.

keep paying me $40 and do whatever you want... expect shave me hahaha :thumbsup

You got it man! :winkwink:

OldSchoolJim 05-25-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001
EpicJim - you really shouldnt let Pimpdog know your password.

Or perhaps you are....... - oh hang on - I will let the others work it out for themselves. :)


Damian...surely you are not suggesting PD and i are one and the same! that would be the second time this week i was accused of that.....

Totally different posting styles...no?

Damian_Maxcash 05-25-2006 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim
Damian...surely you are not suggesting PD and i are one and the same! that would be the second time this week i was accused of that.....

Totally different posting styles...no?

http://www.bifsniff.com/images/carto...badcop_fin.gif

OldSchoolJim 05-25-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

HAHA!! i like that good cop bad cop...i have used that reference on more than one occasion!

surfer on acid 05-25-2006 03:53 PM

I can do nothing else but laugh when reading this thread.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 05-25-2006 04:04 PM

Although there is a lot of sarcasm in your post, it's not the worst idea in the world. Lets say payouts did decrease a little bit and in return sponsors disabled all shady tactics with cross-sells, prechecked boxes, and ransomware. Trust would eventually build up from consumers and overall conversion rates will get much better. I will take $20 instead of $40 if it means I convert 1:200 instead of 1:500.

BlackCrayon 05-25-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim
J.R..this industry was BUILT on PPS....it has not ruined it...GREED has ruined it...

From greedy programs right on down to GREEDY affiliates who demand that every program keep up with the program that cheats the most....errr....PAYS the most.....

It is called a mirror my friend....i suggest the whole industry take a peek

was it really? pps wasn't really popular till around 2000-2001. before that we were getting paid on a slide scale and revshare mostly. when PPS started getting popular i made good money on that too but noticed the higher the payouts got the shittier the ratios got.

OldSchoolJim 05-25-2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Trust would eventually build up from consumers and overall conversion rates will get much better. I will take $20 instead of $40 if it means I convert 1:200 instead of 1:500.
The only flaw in this is that ALL sponsors would have to agree....
once you drop payouts....affiliates dump you...and someone will boast bigger payouts to get those affiliates...

sonofsam 05-25-2006 04:09 PM

50 big programs who are inside

Jace 05-25-2006 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpicJim
J.R..this industry was BUILT on PPS....it has not ruined it...GREED has ruined it...

From greedy programs right on down to GREEDY affiliates who demand that every program keep up with the program that cheats the most....errr....PAYS the most.....

you sir, have the nail on the head

Gabriel 05-25-2006 04:14 PM

Funny thread.


Here's another funny one.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=613659

Deraj 05-25-2006 04:20 PM

LOL good stuff

woj 05-25-2006 04:45 PM

or you can invest in some quality content instead, you might be shocked but there are actually programs out there that pay more without having to pop 10 popups, install spyware, do shady crossales, do upselles in the members areas, etc....

WDjay 05-25-2006 04:58 PM

A Handicapped parking sign does not signify that this spot is for handicapped people. It is actually in fact a warning, that the spot belongs to Chuck Norris and that you will be handicapped if you park there.


And as usual.........Jim is right.

OldSchoolJim 05-25-2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj
or you can invest in some quality content instead, you might be shocked but there are actually programs out there that pay more without having to pop 10 popups, install spyware, do shady crossales, do upselles in the members areas, etc....

Sorry Woj...we now have our own production company filming all the time for our members....you know as well as i do..once the PPS price drops..so does affiliate attention span....

dont even get started on the trial member area previews....

Snake Doctor 05-25-2006 06:52 PM

My 2 cents is this.
Limited access trial memberships = Good Thing
Pre-checked cross sells = Bad thing.
More than one console = Bad thing

Limited trial memberships are really the only way to counter the professional trial member that's been created over the years by webmasters pushing PPS programs and teaching members how to cancel....or telling them to go download the whole members area for $2.95.
It's a beast that we as an industry created, but limited trials are IMHO an effective solution, so long as the trial is cheap ($1-$3) and the member gets a decent amount of content during the trial without giving away the whole store.

Getting rid of cross sales won't really decrease your $$ per member because your retention will go up when you don't have a member checking out someone else's members area after he signed up to your site.
You'll get less money THIS month, but long term it will even out.

I think it's stupid to ask programs to do away with consoles altogether. It's a great way of filtering traffic and increasing revenue. Most programs have gone way too far with their friggin 12+ console exit chains though.
I get hit with consoles at sites like espn.com, it's part of the internet experience IMHO, just don't overdo it.

:2 cents:


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