What are people arguing here? If they want to send ransomware to surfers, so be it. It's their company and their decision. If people don't like it, they shouldn't send traffic to them. If people don't care, they should continue to send traffic. It's their site and I don't think it's anyone's business what they have or don't have on it. Everyone just seems so worried about other people's sites.

This shouldn't be about whether it's ransomware or not.

My point is something like this....
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=613215

They have several ways of linking. I doubt the one that installs shit on your puter will be posted on gfy.

And the ENTIRE adult model as we know it was not built on this same idea??

Check out the 1st exit the company in your sig has ;)

Thanks Quickdraw. I just saved a copy of the installer and will start decompiling it. we will know soon enough the truth about what the thing really does

Thats a sad point. Yeah, people get ripped off all the time because of fine print. That is BAD. That's big businesses with lots of money taking advantage of regular average joe people.

I would have rather seen you post a link to a company that is doing things more openly and honestly. The fact that you are posting links to ripoffs makes me wonder what kinds of thoughts are going around in your head. :(

I agree. We will know soon enough.

Maybe the majority of adult but not all. I know for a fact that there are companies that do NOT prey on the stupid computer surfer. They charge a membership for their site and they have a disclaimer on that join page saying how much it is and how much it will recur at if they don't cancel. Its on the terms as well but most importantly its 3 lines right in front of them when they join.

Thats a big difference to the terms on Movie Pass ... real big.

Is the company actively fighting this with the anti-virus/malware companies? I know I would be if I thought it was a wrong classification. Whats the stand on that point?

I've been just reading and watching all of this drama unfold and waiting for the blind test results etc. But I'm curious about that.

i have been testiing this software over the last few days, im not finished yet so i dont wanna give a full report yet , but i can say that it def does not uninstall itself completely . during my first test some items were easily removed ( obvious program leads ) but hidden files stay resident on your system . what these files do i will report when i know fully.

My initial "overview" of the software is " shady shady shady "

Well, right off the bat, the installer source is linked with altbill (http://altbill.com). "honor system" huh?

Very interesting. Thanks for the update Smokey ... you rock:thumbsup

that's exactly what i figured. :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup




smokey, i'm decompiling the installer down to it's original code right now. I'll let you know what I find.

No matter what you find it is not true! Because it didnt happen to idiot Media so its not true.

So if your next door neighbour is a child molester its none of your business ? I fail to see how that works..

If your next door neighbour is a bank robber , its none of your business ?

When exactly is it your business.. ?

So if i wrote a program that made it impossible for surfers to visit any of your sites and paid google to install it on people's computers you wouldnt mind ?

WTF???? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Who the hell wrote this installer? The following is actually part of the installer's source code (and NO I am NOT kidding!):


"WoW is a sucky MMORPG. City of Heroes is 55550x betteR"




:eek7 wtf?

Did they decide not to sue ConsumerAffairs?
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...movieland.html

In its unsigned statement objecting to ConsumerAffairs.Com's reports, Movieland concluded:

We require you to retract or remove this article immediately. We remain hopeful that this matter can be resolved without filing suit against you for libel, tortious interference with contract, intentional interference with prospective economic advantage, and violation of California Civil Code Section 17200.

Smokey I fully know what you're saying but you cannot compare something that is violently illegal to something that is someone DEMANDING someone to pay for the license they agreed to sign up for right? In all fairness if it is shady or isnt, you still cannot compare it to bank robbery...

It's "just business", right?

Wrong.

However popular GFY is, many webmasters do not visit here. Many who do, do not read every thread. So in addition to the impact this kind of crap has on the credibility of our industry as a whole, there have to be many people sending traffic to (in this case) Epic, without knowing what their surfers are getting.

And it is crap, regardless of what some are saying here about it being easy to uninstall. When it comes to running a PC, never underestimate how hopeless many people are at dealing with anything out of the ordinary. And let's not be obtuse, that is exactly what this nagware, ransomware, adware, call it what you like, is preying upon. It is designed specifically to catch people who will not easily be able to get rid of it.

All this for what? Because the owner of this software offered a few bucks more than another potential advertiser? The very fact that someone from Epic felt it necessary to check the thing out, makes it clear he knew it was at least in the gray end of the market. So apparently he made a conscious decision to risk upsetting visitors to his own site, as well as inviting the totally predictable reaction from some webmasters. That may be business, but it's bad business.

We are having to work our asses off today, in large part to restore the credibility we knowingly destroyed yesterday. Yet every time someone dangles an extra dollar bill if only we support the next dubious (at best) practise, we buy into it. Pathetic.

Woohhooo suprising...eh not really :2 cents:

Another home run post. Gad damn man you're on a roll lately.

WELL said. :thumbsup

If the uninstall was easy and complete, why would somebody write this guide to uninstalling it - http://profend.com/answers/moviepass1.html - rather than just saying "configuration > software > moviepass > uninstall"?

Another funny point:
http://www.moviepass.tv/?section=faq
Which can only be reached if you've paid for a membership... No information at all on how to uninstall for those who have the program and do not wish to pay yet do want the prog gone.

It's more than shady. It's like someone putting "if you click 'enter' you have to pay $1000" in the terms textarea on the warning page of his site, after around 1500 words or so, and then sending in a collection agency as soon as someone clicks visits the site.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

And then when you try to access that cancel page in the members area, you are sent here.

http://www.moviepass.tv/reinstall.html

How convenient. Still no uninstall docs or help. This is getting better by the hour.

Nice :1orglaugh

Wow, this guide is big!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Seriously?

Excellent post and right on the money. :thumbsup

I question the business practices of every single company pushing this crap. Most likely it is only the tip of the iceburg of shady shit going on.

I am shocked to hear that. :1orglaugh