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05-20-2002, 12:24 PM

Hello,

Thank you for your email. We understand that you saw an inappropriate advertisement on a Google results page. We have removed this ad and would
like to explain to you how it appeared on Google.

The advertisement you saw was generated through our AdWords program. This program is designed to enable thousands of small business owners to quickly and efficiently generate traffic to their sites. The ads they create run on our site immediately. Our editorial staff reviews all ads to make sure that they are appropriate for our site. Since we show ads
immediately, there is often a short period of time when the ad is running before being reviewed and approved by Google. Please note that we try to keep this lag as short as possible.

Unfortunately, it seems you saw the advertisement before we had a chance to review it. We have since had the opportunity to review the ad and have deemed it inappropriate for our site.

Please accept our apologies. We thank you for your patience and
continuing support.

Please feel free to email us at [email protected] with further questions or concerns.

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05-20-2002, 12:26 PM

Blah

They should review sites before immediately accepting them.

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05-20-2002, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Dreamman010
Blah

They should review sites before immediately accepting them.

No kidding! Bet they feel pretty stupid right now!!!

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05-20-2002, 12:28 PM

Or at least have some kind of filter. I didn't see the ad but I"m sure it had plenty of words that would've tipped them off.
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05-20-2002, 12:29 PM

yeah like "lolita 6-10 year old girls"?

sheesh...at least maybe this incident will force them to strongly re-consider their policies.
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05-20-2002, 12:30 PM

Am sure they do I posted the thread.... that someone posted here... Told'm someone can goto jail for this... And you have pissed a bunch of Adult Webmasters off...

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05-20-2002, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by jimmyf
Am sure they do I posted the thread.... that someone posted here... Told'm someone can goto jail for this... And you have pissed a bunch of Adult Webmasters off...

Hmmm?

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05-20-2002, 12:41 PM

damn, as a ppc search ranking list site, we get our share of suspect submissions all the time. it's a pain in the ass, but we 'scrub' all our new submissions for legality and relevancy before they post. a few times things have slipped between the cracks, but you must be on guard for this shit - there's way too much at stake.

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05-20-2002, 12:52 PM

In Google's defense, their ad words are functioning something like an AOL message board, or a free host site, or any other unmoderated internet thing. They don't filter any of them, then they respond to complaints to fix problems.

If anyone is going to go to jail it would be the owner of the site, not Google.

Lensman doesn't screen every post on GFY, and someone could easily post a child porn advert here, and it would take him a few minutes or even hours to remove it.

That's the way the web is. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying the law recognizes it and that's the way it is.

Google should probably consider screening certain words as a start and also consider using the same technology as TGP's, which scan the TGP pages themselves for banned words as well. Their system is new and they are still refining it. I think it's great we all emailed them about this, and they fixed it.

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05-20-2002, 12:56 PM

This is the bullshit response I received from google when I registered a complaint about the child porn links they had up as paid key word advertisements.

Subj: Re: complaint [#442759]
Date: 5/20/2002 4:44:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Hello,

Thank you for your email. We understand that you saw an inappropriate advertisement on a Google results page. We have removed this ad and would like to explain to you how it appeared on Google.

The advertisement you saw was generated through our AdWords program. This program is designed to enable thousands of small business owners to quickly and efficiently generate traffic to their sites. The ads they create run on our site immediately. Our editorial staff reviews all ads to make sure that they are appropriate for our site. Since we show ads immediately, there is often a short period of time when the ad is running before being reviewed and approved by Google. Please note that we try to
keep this lag as short as possible.

Unfortunately, it seems you saw the advertisement before we had a chance to review it. We have since had the opportunity to review the ad and have deemed it inappropriate for our site.

Please accept our apologies. We thank you for your patience and
continuing support.

Please feel free to email us at [email protected] with further questions
or concerns.

Sincerely,
The Google AdWords Team
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05-20-2002, 01:04 PM

I mentioned this yesterday in the other thread; google does a heck of a good job scrubbing porn results (let alone kp) from their own search results for the term 'sex' on the first page results anyway http://www.google.com/search?q=sex . with any luck they'll take the head's up and flag a few terms as worthy of being checked out by a human before posting if they appear in their adwords submissions. 'Preteen lolitas' would seem like a good red alert flag to me http://jamess.boxx.ca/junk/google-loli.gif

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05-20-2002, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by spanky
I mentioned this yesterday in the other thread; google does a heck of a good job scrubbing porn results (let alone kp) from their own search results for the term 'sex' on the first page results anyway http://www.google.com/search?q=sex . with any luck they'll take the head's up and flag a few terms as worthy of being checked out by a human before posting if they appear in their adwords submissions. 'Preteen lolitas' would seem like a good red alert flag to me http://jamess.boxx.ca/junk/google-loli.gif

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As I said in my other post, if a $500 TGP script can identify and ban a lot of questionable content, you would think that Google would be able to figure out an even better solution.

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05-20-2002, 01:19 PM

not sure why you quoted my msg, guess I'll do the same

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

As I said in my other post, if a $500 TGP script can identify and ban a lot of questionable content, you would think that Google would be able to figure out an even better solution.

I agree 100%

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05-20-2002, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by lawpal
This is the bullshit response I received from google when I registered a complaint about the child porn links they had up as paid key word advertisements.

What is the problem?
You reported a Child porn site and they removed the link ASAP.
Did you expect google to send you a medal?
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05-20-2002, 02:00 PM

They took down the link, but the reason I was bothered is that they allow child porn ad posting, and then regulate it after the fact. That is stupid. There is nothing to prevent someone from posting another identicle ad. They have no safeguards in place. It would make more sense to regulate first, and the problem won't exist.
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05-20-2002, 02:03 PM

hehe bad shit
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05-20-2002, 02:04 PM

Maybe they thought no one would be stupid enough to submit a child porn site.
I agree they setup a few filters at least.
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05-20-2002, 04:38 PM

Can you imagine Google being shut down for CP ?

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05-20-2002, 04:41 PM

they have filters.. i remember getting some adwords things rejected in their "sample" tool.. obviously not targetted at CP tho.
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05-20-2002, 04:48 PM

Is it just me or does the keyword sex ( http://www.google.com/search?q=sex ) still have a link to that CP shit?

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05-20-2002, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by mpjetta
Is it just me or does the keyword sex ( http://www.google.com/search?q=sex ) still have a link to that CP shit?

Report this shit to all the damn US newspapers. Believe me, google will remove it.

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05-20-2002, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by mpjetta
Is it just me or does the keyword sex ( http://www.google.com/search?q=sex ) still have a link to that CP shit?

Yip has a link to the same Kiddie Porn site.....
And those are little kids, babys not even close...
Those people don't give a fuck...
Ever who knows how report them to the
Newspapers, the Network news, CNN and who ever
else you can think of....

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05-20-2002, 08:25 PM

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Notice there aren't any illegal words in that ad. And the link that the page went to was a blank page on a different domain that meta-refreshed to the CP site.
So even if google had filters in place banning certain words and even if they spidered the page the traffic was going to they wouldn't have caught on.

Give them a break, some of you folks act like google built that site or something.

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05-20-2002, 08:25 PM

The CP link seems to be gone now. Good thing.

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05-20-2002, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Lenny2

Notice there aren't any illegal words in that ad. And the link that the page went to was a blank page on a different domain that meta-refreshed to the CP site.
So even if google had filters in place banning certain words and even if they spidered the page the traffic was going to they wouldn't have caught on.

Give them a break, some of you folks act like google built that site or something.

They really don't deserve to be given a break. The ad you mention above may have CP keywords removed - the previous ad most certainly didn't. It has been said before but as you seem to have totally missed the point raised, it would be VERY easy to filter certain keywords and this was not done. The ad may not now contain the words lolita or preteen but certainly did do and to not do such basic filtering is plain crazy.

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05-21-2002, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by Lenny2
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Give them a break, some of you folks act like google built that site or something.

Fuck that. The don't deserve one. If they are making money, and they definitely are, the should be responsible enough to policy their advertising.
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05-21-2002, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

What is the problem?
You reported a Child porn site and they removed the link ASAP.
Did you expect google to send you a medal?

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05-21-2002, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

What is the problem?
You reported a Child porn site and they removed the link ASAP.
Did you expect google to send you a medal?

no, but a cookie would be nice
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05-21-2002, 07:12 AM

'C' is for Cookie..

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05-21-2002, 10:04 AM

Amazing that Google seems not to be able of detecting child porn on a website when they have developed some of the most advanced spidering technology in the world.

Google cannot use any excuses like that. They are a fucking search engine (and spider)

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Notice there aren't any illegal words in that ad. And the link that the page went to was a blank page on a different domain that meta-refreshed to the CP site.
So even if google had filters in place banning certain words and even if they spidered the page the traffic was going to they wouldn't have caught on.

Give them a break, some of you folks act like google built that site or something.
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05-21-2002, 10:13 AM

there is no fucking excuses.

They can run the biggest search engine on the net. but cant setup a filter for words like lolita??

wtf?

btw, the ad is still there...

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05-21-2002, 10:28 AM

Regardless of what anyone's personal opinion is, the word "lolita" is not illegal. Using that word on your website is not illegal in any way, shape, or form.
There are a lot of sites out there that use that word whose content is 100% legal, all the models are over 18, its just a word.
Hell the word "lolita" is searched for more than 3 times as much as the word "teen".

I'm not condoning that site, I found it utterly disgusting. I was simply pointing out that the ad I saw didn't have any illegal words in it, and the page the ad linked to was obviously changed after the ad went up, since it meta-refreshed to another domain.

And they did pull it as soon as someone complained and they had a human look at it.

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05-21-2002, 10:37 AM

the adwords program is moderately new and mass word filtering was probably lower on the list of priorities. i'm sure they filter out "fuck" and "shit" and the common words, but when it comes to non-swear words that have special meanings, you have to give them a chance to collect all of those/learn from their mistakes.

i mean come on, it's not like google is trying to promote it. mistakes happen

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05-21-2002, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by DrGuile
there is no fucking excuses.

They can run the biggest search engine on the net. but cant setup a filter for words like lolita??

wtf?

btw, the ad is still there...

i do agree with that. there is no excuse for it still being there :P

but i do work for a big company, and some systems are so fucked up it takes a bit to do anything with them. i expect google to have better systems though, especially ones recently developed like adwords.

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05-21-2002, 10:46 AM

Its the scum that submit a clean site, get it reviewed and added. Then they go change it to CP. So google need to be policing all ads constantally or it will continue to happen.
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05-21-2002, 10:57 AM

they just need a spider for adword. that checks for redirect and shit..

They already have all the spider technology. just apply it to adword.

check IP of people who submit ads, ban russia and taiwan... etc...

I mean, those arent perfect rules, but it took me 3 seconds to come up with them. Google could have taken 2 of their engineers, sat them down for a day, and develop something half-decent.

I hope not, but they might just be happy making money and using the good old 'we cant do anything' excuse...

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