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			It aint about the money ? it?s the principle of the matter. ---- Alot of you dont like alienQ. i didnt when i first came here but after an ICQ conversation, i thought different. i thought he was an ok guy and decided to work with him. and after a few phone conversations, i thought he was a good guy with a crazy ass board persona. aug 2005 alien hired me for my services- an 8 min soundtrack services were rendered to alien?s approval. alien accepted and agreed to services and price of $200.00. alien and his wife expressed that they were very happy with soundtrack. alien agreed to pay me within 2 months or when Kayla?s site launched. alien stated that kayla site was going to launch by dec 2005 or sooner and was confident that payment would be made before dec. 2005 a joke was made during a phone conversation about slackers on the board who dont pay to which mark replied i had nothing to worry about. I was confident that Mark was a straight up dude and agreed. ----- alien used soundtrack on this video http://www.ialien.com/kaylademo/element3.wmv promoted on his site http://www.ialien.com/kaylademo/index.html which now magically disappeared. promoted ion GFY in numerous threads http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=kayla+marie at JBM - I wont post link here but its there. why red x's in these threads? because my name was on them as producing the soundtrack but if you watch the video youll see my name credited. ----- from sept 2005 to jan 2006 Bumped alien's content threads also started numerous threads about aliens content - ie pics of kayla ect thats what biz associates do - help each other out. ----- nov 2005 ICQ about payment - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks dec 2005 - ICQ about payment - didnt have the funds - said not to worry payment would be made - thinks within a few weeks - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks jan 2006 - ICQ's about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me - kayla is launching soon - just a few weeks feb 2006 - ICQ alien about payment - didnt have the funds - i offered that he make payments - said he would get back to me. kayla is launching soon and had other projects lined up - Mar 2006 - asked alien for payment - didnt have the funds - I offered that he only pay me half of what he owed - $100 - Another heated convo about giving him a hard time and he wasnt using it - then came around and said he would get back to me and that payment would be made- payment is now basically written off at this point. apr 2006 - ICQ alien - didnt have the funds, said the soundtrack sucked wasnt going to use it and lost soundtrack, fuck you - heated discussion - wrote him off as well as payment May 2006 - ICQ regarding my reply on gfy thread about alien not making payment on services - heated discussion, then turns civil - last chance to settle and asked whats the real reason? - was told "investors"said it sucked back when it was first used - i asked why i wasnt told this in AUG or SEPT - which would have been acceptable term for non payment - and why are you still using it 9 MONTHS LATER if it sucked - i said we were cool fuck the money. ect. but the excuse about the "investors" after nine months of Bullshit just pissed me off. nothing worse than disrespct. ---------- to not get paid is one thing and acceptable under the right circumstances - broke - the service sucked but to be insulted and disrepected by a blatant lie after nine months of being cool is not acceptable. I asked alien why he didnt he tell me of his "investors" decision in aug or sept, his reply is that im an asshole or something just as intelligent. No answer from him. the answer is obvious. If i have anything bad to say about alien it?s only because he brought it upon himself. Mark heres some advice - you dont know me - so dont assume. Think about that on ALL levels before leveling any accusations worthy of a response that you dont want or need. This is all i have to say about the mater. ![]() 
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		 Jonesy i am geting tatoo on the 30th of june 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 You're definitely showing a lot more class than he is. Having been burned by something like this I know it sucks. The vid I saw with the music on it sounded good, but hey some people will say it sucks just to not have to pay I guess. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Yet ANOTHER person he owes money to. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Welcome to the biz.  $ upfront next time - at least a retainer.   Of course there would be no second time for someone that didn't pay $200.  I always pay something down for artwork - rare exception.  Trying to remeber one and can't though. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 AlienQ and European Lee are exactly the same when it comes to shit like this 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			European Lee basically did the same thing to a designer and it was total bullshit 
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		 It really is a shame, but there isn't one woe that Alien has that he hasn't brought upon himself.  What a waste of talent.  Smarten up and fly right, Alien, you won't have to deal with poverty ever again. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 So in summary:  Kayla is launching soon! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 he's still using it ... it the demo on this page off his site ... http://www.ialien.com/contentkayla.html   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 As earilier stated, I told em he would be paid when the site launched, also if the sound track was used. Plane and simple. I kept the sound file on line for people to listen to. I demo'd here on GFY. No one liked it. At that point I was going to pay em anyways when the site launched. That's what was agreed. At this point there is no point in paying em shit. Besides the tune can be sold to anyone at this point to anyone. He probably could or already has found a buyer for it. Shouldnt be any skin off his back but he rather just cry about it and bad mouth me. Fuck em... I make it known that I run a small operation, I work hard, I am not loaded with cash like everyone else is seemingly around here, which is why this deal was arranged the way it was. 
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		 Jonesy if it really was a matter of principal ya would have not said bad shit about me here on GFY while on ICQ saying shit like "It's cool, I understand. It's all good". We apologised to each other and went on to work it out and move on, then ya continue to talk shit on the boards some more. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 That isn't even a sentence. You're not doing yourself any favors. I have read both threads (yours and his), I believe a consensus has been reached. You and Euro Lee do seem to have a lot in common. I do find it amazing that you request all funds up front, yet can't afford to pay even half of the agreed upon price. Guess it is easy to figure out why you made the quote you did.  | 
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		 ohhh this is not a good thread. i just remember a friend who still owes me money for half a year now. dunno if she sent the money in the bank really but i'll keep my fingers crossed. goodluck guys. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		          It seems the people with the biggest mouths here on GFY are the ones with the least talent. 
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			AlienQ owes jonesy money. AlienQ owes MarkTiarra content. AlienQ owes me design work. Am I missing anyone? Me thinks somebody needs to get busy... 
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		 skipping to pay $100 owed for that long 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 jonesy offered to drop price at half and still didnt receive it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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