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I have a deal for you Alien. I want you to do some banners for me, for a site i am working on. I will pay you for the banners only if i use them and not until the site launches. IF everyone on GFY thinks the banners suck I wont use them nor will i pay you. Don't worry it wont be any skin off your back they will be pretty generic banners and you can just change the name on them and sell them to anyone else. Oh and if use them and you bitch about it on here i wont pay you either. No matter what i will still put the banners on my main webmaster site even if i don't use them for advertising and even if i don't pay you.

How you like dem apples.. sucks doesn't. So why you doing it to someone else ?

extortion money = someone doing work for you and looking to get paid for it? not getting paid so airing it out for everyone else ???? thats some fucked up thinking if you think thats extortion.

dude its only 200 bucks.... why would you give the guy the run around for 8 months?

1. he is stupid?
2. he is broke?
3. he has no idea how to do good business?
4. he really doesn't give a shit
5. he is stupid?
6. all of the above.

take your pick.

PS: He prolly would have gottin 200 bucks if he wasnt a whinney bitch and understood agreements.

so him being a " whinney bitch " is your excuse for not paying him.

I hate people like you. fuckin scum IMO. not only rip the guy off but you insult him and think it is cool. No wonder you never amount to shit and are always broke. Funny talk about whinney bitches i've heard a fair share of whinning from you about stuff like, not being rich, losing out on post whore contests, etc... its a wonder anyone does business with you.


BTW> I have a deal for you Alien. I want you to do some banners for me, for a site i am working on. I will pay you for the banners only if i use them and not until the site launches. IF everyone on GFY thinks the banners suck I wont use them nor will i pay you. Don't worry it wont be any skin off your back they will be pretty generic banners and you can just change the name on them and sell them to anyone else. Oh and if use them and you bitch about it on here i wont pay you either. No matter what i will still put the banners on my main webmaster site even if i don't use them for advertising and even if i don't pay you.

How you like dem apples.. sucks doesn't. So why you doing it to someone else ?

I insulted him?

LOL, no I didnt.

Well...
Until he came crying to the boards knowing the deal we made then speaking to me on ICQ, and discussing things like a professional would, then turning around not two hours later and talkin shit on the boards some more.

"Get paid when the project launches", that was the deal.

So where is the real insult here and the one that started it?

I promoted the tune here on GFY gave em props on the tune and everything!
The tune still sits on my server within a demo clip that I showed everyone. He not asked me to take it down. Why not? Because it helps em.

I aint that wicked, I am being generous.

The tune got turned down for the project however, but even then at that point I was gonna pay em, he just had to be patient.

Hell ya feel so bad for em go and make him a deal and get some music for your websites.

I did nothing wrong here, I handled the way I should have, its to bad he couldnt do the same and man up to the orginal deal.:thumbsup

weak.

you ordered something and got it: Pay for it. Period.

Nah...

Its against policy.

Ya fuck with me and all deals are off.:thumbsup
Its a great policy and better than being fucked.

I will take my chances with the sniveling board whores.

pathetic is a better word....

I will never do business with this guy unless it is under the same terms that he does business with others, like Jonesy. LOL

Yer prolly just another hustler anyways...

Ya wont be missed.

You love my work, dying to get a piece of it. My shits good and I know it and alot of people come to me with "Deals". I do not want "Deals".

This is the 4th little tid bit ya have asked for some business "Deal".
Clearly you can not handle real business.

Move on child.

Newbies, I hope you are watching. This is a prime example of how you DO NOT conduct business.

I have a feeling alien will not be selling much, if any, of his content. It's a shame, cause it's real nice.

you are too stupid to see when i am mocking you. I don't want to do a "Deal" with you. I am pointing out how shitty you try deal with others when they make something for you but yet you want payment upfront when you do work for other people.

yeah i am a hustler, i make about 50x what you make. You cry about people needing money to make money etc.. telling people to quit dreaming and go get job at 711 etc... i came from nothing and made my own way. It starts with good business ethics, something that seems to have eluded you and is probably the mean reason why you can't make any good money from this. How ironic you claim to be the best but you don't make shit.

I am so sick of hearing from you, i'll pay jonesy the $200. Jonesy send me your paypal and i will pay you for having been scammed by this fool.

will at teamclickcash dot com.

if i am the child, dude you are the precum.

very, very sad

my av didnt go off at all, should I be worried lol.

Frigin hypocrite you tried to pull the same shit on Rick Latona:2 cents:

So you're cool that I buy the design you offered and the content and if no one likes it I don't pay for it?

Alien you have a problem, you don't sell enough. Now what does that tell you?

It tells me you're either not very good, even though you may think you are. You are over pricing, which is possible when it comes to content. Or people don't like your board persona, look at mine and my sales.

I offered you design work and all you did was show me some designs I did not like, because they were no different from 1000 other cookie cutter tours and all you told me was the number of pages you would do. If I tried to sell content the same way I would be broke.

Then I asked about the content you had and you quoted a price that was stupid. I could of flown to the US, booked the model, shot her for a day and been left with change for what you were quoting. When I questioned this you came back with something like my style is tired and you, who have hardly shot anything, are fresh. Wake up and smell the coffee fool, so I send Eva to shoot. :winkwink:

What the fuck are you smoking?

If you were good at what you did you would not be broke. There are plenty of board whores/fool posters, I'm one, who make a lot of money. Because the end result is what the product entices the surfer to do. Your (I know I spelled it wrong, just getting to Alien's level :winkwink: ) broke because people do not think your product will sell.

LOADED = $200 ??

You are not "loaded" so you couldn't pay someone $200 upfront. but yet you are the best at what you do :warning :1orglaugh

Whats your problem Paul?

Sad that I didnt want to give you my content so ya could take 60% of it?
FUck you. Give me a real offer next time.

I do not do shit your way Paul, I am not interested in the method you think works. Maybe it works for you, but I got other things in mind. Because you do not understand makes no difference to me.

Now regarding your offer in design.
I do not design comps free, I do not consult on whats good and bad...

Unless of course you have paid. I do not provide my concepts in design and "Different" things to folks for free. I deal with folks that handle Business in a mature manor.

Whether the Business works out for the client is solely based on mutual respect. Something you seemed to lack even on ICQ.

So it was easy to opt you right to the recycle bin.

GFY has really turned into the Cry baby bitch board as of late.
Its getting out of hand.

said it before.... will say it again... Alien is the new Amp.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I've never done business that way, and never had any issues paying my bills whatsoever.

Think up a new analogy. Your current one is seriously flawed.

I doubt anybody on earth would work for free dude ... give us a break. If your head told you something else, then youre probably alone.

Between me and you, nobody relies on what people on GFY think about a tune to pay for it or not. They might not get work from the same dude again, but definitly not if the guy deserves to get paid or not...

Back to the beginning then...

The tune was developed, the pretense was him being paid when the project launches. Pretty simple, and he got plenty exposure for it as well. I gave em many props on the matter.

Now he get's alot more exposure because of this little stunt.

I am cool with that. Good for him.
To bad he didnt quite care to understand when he would be paid.

So I guess you'll be paying him when the project launches correct? Everyone knows that you never made any kind of agreement with him that you wouldn't pay him if you didn't like it, thats pure bs.

You are almost correct.
That was the plan, or rather one of them.

Not a matter of refusing to pay, but a matter of getting his work some exposure, and paying when possible but definatly when the site is to launch and no later.

But...

This thread and things he pulled behind the scenes and on the scene that lead to this thread being made...

Deal is totally 100% off.
He wont get shit, he already capitalised and took me for a ride by crying about it. He knew the deal.

Its just to bad ya kids are pointing fingers at the wrong guy all the time and screaming thief.

I am the one that was taken advantage of here. He was slated to be paid, that was never a question before all of this.

So you can change the deal at any time for whatever reason you like? He has enough saved dialogue between you two to constitute a binding agreement, one that he could easily enforce and win should he decide to. He seems like a nice guy as he hasn't badmouthed you, just wants to be paid. He offered you to settle and pay him half, you won't even do that.

Quit whinning.

Does he owe you money or somthing?

Yes he does, the deal we made was that as soon Alienq paid him then he could pay me. He also stated that at any time if Alienq decided he didn't want to pay him, then he would be unable to pay me. I'm eagerly awaiting the launch of your project so that I can be paid.

Alien seems to have a problem grasping that concept.

Well then it sounds like your client is not working for you on the matter:1orglaugh

He does like to bad mouth in many ways shapes and colors.

Oh and tends to say things he does not mean whats so ever on ICQ.

Like, "Dude its cool, dude we are good, dude I understand." then run to the boards and cry about it, or better yet chide in fucked up remarks on your other work and projects when presented publicly.

Thats Assuming if you actually work!:1orglaugh

PS: Do not dare try to promote em, he will take advanatage of you on that as well.

OH look its the red neck tweaker...

i am not aware of you ever ripping anyone off. did not mean to imply that.

i was commenting on the "look at me... look at me, oh and you're all a bunch of fucking idiots that dont get it" attitude he has.

its like watching some guy fall off a cliff who makes things all better by simply spreads his arms and telling himself and yells at others on the way down... "look at me, i'm flying... i'm flying"

lol

couldnt have said it better

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWLING LAUGHTA

When I was reading through all of that jonesy, that's what I was thinking at first too. That there must be a lot more money involved than 2 bills.

:2 cents:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I keep trying to remember Alien... what company fired you as their designer, right after you made your first appearence on the boards? sin city something...? you know, the one that had a lot of really hot porn stars and you took over their design and made their sites look like some sort of fucked up, deleted scenes from return of the jedi?

can you post the URL so we can look it up on archive.org and have a laugh together?

you are waste of a reply.

but according to you he will never get paid. Shitty way to do busines if you do work for someone and then if YOU don't follow through on the project you dont pay him.

It's obvious you have convinced yourself that your way of doing things is right. (check your bank account and how many negative responses you have here, you might want to change the way you do things, it can't hurt).

He didn't make the clip so you could give him free exposure or not. That was not part of the deal from everything i have read here. You would paid him for making the clip, he made it, you strung him alone because you are broke and now you dont want to pay him because he spoke up about it.

I would only hope that if anyone is stupid enough to do business with you they demand the same terms that you do business with others, like jonesy.

i second that.

:1orglaugh funny but please explain the metaphor to alien - its obvious he didnt get it and thinks i owe you money, which is even funnier since i dont know you.

What is the point of sitting in here and arguing we all know AlienQueer is:

broke
stupid
has little if no talent
cannot grasp concepts
and seems to have problems with a straight forward deal

enough said, i have had enough of this idiot, you think you have it good when he is banned, then 2 months late, shit, the idiot is back.

he is like arguing with a brick wall. except the brickwall doesnt pretend to be anything it isnt.

AlienQ is officially the biggest dipshit on board.

This reminds me of the European Lee drama with BlueDesignStudios.

http://www.enter.net/~adrienne/vi1.jpg

Village Idiot

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=alien+vivid

Funniest GFY thread ever.

wow... i must have missed that drama. weird stuff. he got a job with vivid and fucked it up on the very first day. incredible. :(

Yeah really, you dont know whether to cry or laugh....

You people got alot of hatred.