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Old 05-16-2006, 03:58 AM   #1
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Who the FUCK did come up with the 4 videos of 10 seconds each idea?

I mean... why should the surfer download 4 seperate files when we might as well can offer him one big file of 40 seconds?

Well ... at least thats what I did in these new FHG I just made for http://www.drunksexorgy.com

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Old 05-16-2006, 04:02 AM   #2
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why to make surfers so comfortable ?
give them more reasons to join !

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Old 05-16-2006, 04:05 AM   #3
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Everyone just copies what everyone else does, thats why it has not changed.
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:11 AM   #4
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why to make surfers so comfortable ?
give them more reasons to join !

Naa, don't think if it matters much if the file is one big or 4 smaller...
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:16 AM   #5
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Also i think depending on what's on the clip i can easily jerk off to a 40 second video. 10 second video would be harder for me.
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:23 AM   #6
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Also i think depending on what's on the clip i can easily jerk off to a 40 second video. 10 second video would be harder for me.
I think it's ok if the surfer jerks off the first time - then he'll come back for more
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:24 AM   #7
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Because a 40 second clip, your surfer just jacked off went to clean up and closed your browser window and is now gone.
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because they dont watch all the clips only 1 or 2.. a 40 sec clip on a hosted gal could get expensive.

And, one sponsor off click.. I get 3 or 4 on a 4 video gal.
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:28 AM   #9
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I think it's ok if the surfer jerks off the first time - then he'll come back for more
You have a point there, may work out well for you guys
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:30 AM   #10
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I clicked to see the tour cause your enter now button was so appealing.. but "Invalid linkcode"

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Old 05-16-2006, 04:35 AM   #11
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- lots of tgps don't list gals with 1 movie
- to much free material to jerk off to right away
- longer download times, and less preview... or you have to make it a trailer and show some good scenes.. with 4 clips you can pick awesome scenes and sell the site better
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:36 AM   #12
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I mean... why should the surfer download 4 seperate files when we might as well can offer him one big file of 40 seconds?
It's 6 files at 10 seconds each, 4 at 15 seconds or 3 at 20 seconds for 1 minute of video.. The 6 files @ 10 seconds was back when we compressed shit at 160x120 sizes maybe without even audio so the surfer could download on their 14k modems. It still makes sense to do 6 - 10 second videos if you actually have a brain and are trying to make a sale.

Obviously you don't know shit about actually trying to market to a horny surfer. The intent of the short length videos is that they get frustrated enough to want to buy the full length video and not deal with the galleries. On top of that.. if you use the gray cells you were gifted with, you'd realize that you should cut the video to include everything EXCEPT the truly good stuff.. Everything right up to the good stuff. That gets them really frustrated so that they buy.

No wonder there's so many failures in this biz. Carry on throwing shit at the wall and hoping some will stick.
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:37 AM   #13
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I clicked to see the tour cause your enter now button was so appealing.. but "Invalid linkcode"

It's because there isn't an affiliate ID in the link.. no worries
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:42 AM   #14
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No wonder there's so many failures in this biz. Carry on throwing shit at the wall and hoping some will stick.
Hmmm... let's see .. speaking as an affiliate... I made $400k+ for my biggest sponsor alone last year.. what did you make little fellow?
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:46 AM   #16
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post a 100 meg video and see how many joins you get :p
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:48 AM   #17
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A hosted movie gallery should be a sample of a particular scene, so with 4 seperate 10 second clips you can pick and chose 4 seperate sections of a scene so there is "story flow" rather than one 40 second block as per your galleries.
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:50 AM   #18
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A hosted movie gallery should be a sample of a particular scene, so with 4 seperate 10 second clips you can pick and chose 4 seperate sections of a scene so there is "story flow" rather than one 40 second block as per your galleries.
You're aboslutly right about that .. but that isn't how a site like DSO works.. no real story .. just a crowd of people drinking and fucking
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Old 05-16-2006, 04:52 AM   #19
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- lots of tgps don't list gals with 1 movie
- to much free material to jerk off to right away
- longer download times, and less preview... or you have to make it a trailer and show some good scenes.. with 4 clips you can pick awesome scenes and sell the site better
couldn't have said that better myself.
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Hmmm... let's see .. speaking as an affiliate... I made $400k+ for my biggest sponsor alone last year.. what did you make little fellow?
uh huh.. I'm sure you did.. especially with that site that no one can even get to... besides.. I never said a person couldn't make money throwing shit.. but if you don't even understand how to market to the surfer, your "400k" could have been "1M"... Go on smoking your pipe...
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Old 05-16-2006, 05:01 AM   #21
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It's 6 files at 10 seconds each, 4 at 15 seconds or 3 at 20 seconds for 1 minute of video.. The 6 files @ 10 seconds was back when we compressed shit at 160x120 sizes maybe without even audio so the surfer could download on their 14k modems. It still makes sense to do 6 - 10 second videos if you actually have a brain and are trying to make a sale.

Obviously you don't know shit about actually trying to market to a horny surfer. The intent of the short length videos is that they get frustrated enough to want to buy the full length video and not deal with the galleries. On top of that.. if you use the gray cells you were gifted with, you'd realize that you should cut the video to include everything EXCEPT the truly good stuff.. Everything right up to the good stuff. That gets them really frustrated so that they buy.

No wonder there's so many failures in this biz. Carry on throwing shit at the wall and hoping some will stick.
Dont agree with you there. If you've got a good product give them a good tast of what you have and they will join. We give plenty of hardcore action in our hosted galls and we do very very nicely. Our galls have 4 x 20 second vids and we dont hold back on the good stuff. ie, (warning a bit extreme)
http://www.cheatingxxxwife.com/tgp/m...99/index2.html
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http://www.cheatingxxxwife.com/tgp/m...24/index2.html

Ps I think the 40 second vid would work well if you edit them so that there are still 3 or 4 seperate sections of a scene in each vid.
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You're aboslutly right about that .. but that isn't how a site like DSO works.. no real story .. just a crowd of people drinking and fucking

Hehe true, i thought that when I looked at a vid. In the case of that type of content it would maybe work OK. But as someone else said nobody would list that type of gallery at the moment.
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Dont agree with you there. If you've got a good product give them a good tast of what you have and they will join. We give plenty of hardcore action in our hosted galls and we do very very nicely. Our galls have 4 x 20 second vids and we dont hold back on the good stuff. ie, (warning a bit extreme)
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http://www.cheatingxxxwife.com/tgp/m...24/index2.html

Ps I think the 40 second vid would work well if you edit them so that there are still 3 or 4 seperate sections of a scene in each vid.
You'd do even better if you actually teased more and didn't give it away but as long as you're happy with your revenue I guess it doesn't matter. But then I believe in maximizing ones revenue and that my primary job is marketing. It's funny.. On my sites, the stuff that makes the most sales isn't FHGs. It's a method of teasing the surfer 100%... The FHGs are just there to keep them coming back every day... LOL.. go figure..

I always find it interesting though that some sponsors think they know how to make galleries. The reality is that, like most things, to do truly GOOD galleries is a skill. The guys that have been making good converting galleries for years could out sell almost everyone's FHGs.
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You'd do even better if you actually teased more and didn't give it away but as long as you're happy with your revenue I guess it doesn't matter. But then I believe in maximizing ones revenue and that my primary job is marketing. It's funny.. On my sites, the stuff that makes the most sales isn't FHGs. It's a method of teasing the surfer 100%... The FHGs are just there to keep them coming back every day... LOL.. go figure..

I always find it interesting though that some sponsors think they know how to make galleries. The reality is that, like most things, to do truly GOOD galleries is a skill. The guys that have been making good converting galleries for years could out sell almost everyone's FHGs.
Weve experimented over the past 5 years with teasing etc, but with extreme stuff it just doesnt work. I have no expereince with non extreme stuff but I could imagine it may work better to tease in that case.
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Hmmm... let's see .. speaking as an affiliate... I made $400k+ for my biggest sponsor alone last year.. what did you make little fellow?

I was going to defend you guys, anyone in the gallery game knows the vikingthumbs people know what they are doing.
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do you pay via epassporte?
No, but it's on the very top of our to-do list
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the chick picking her nose in the bg is a sure fire converter!!
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Because a 40 second clip, your surfer just jacked off went to clean up and closed your browser window and is now gone.

and there it is. Good answer Pete
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It is something different, I bet you will do well with it. Your content is unique and great quality.
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