Sponsors please STOP this THEFT (part#1)

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  • swami
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1989

    #136
    Great Post By Topbucks Trixxxia

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    • JD
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Sep 2003
      • 22651

      #137
      Originally posted by AlienQ
      SO when I see a sponsor talk about MAD ratio's some even like 1 in 30 overall for an affiliate I already know how it happened or at least can take a good guess, because nothing is that well targeted these days.
      i'm 1:80ish with princess cameron. does that make me a swapper?

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      • GoLiaT
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2002
        • 1130

        #138
        activate my new epass atm card

        seems impossible
        i click the activate link and it says all is fine
        but when i check back at page one it still say activate your card
        am i missing something here ?
        "where ever you go..there you are."

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        • OG LennyT
          Wall Street Pimp
          • Jun 2003
          • 14345

          #139
          Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
          Like if i had a whale who was stealing 10% of all my affiliates sales but i didnt realise that , all i would see is 400 sales going bye bye, when in reality they would just be credited to the real affiliates , and not vanish at all .
          good words there
          Tradeking - my online broker | 4.95 a trade | make real $$

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          • Troels
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 1035

            #140
            Haven't you picked up the constant bad board spam from some east europeans?

            "We pay hi rate for iframe code" or something like that. Obviously they install some crap.
            Contact them and dissect that code.
            These guys steal your signups: Read here.
            And sexsearch.com profit from it.
            Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
            And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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            • Troels
              Confirmed User
              • May 2002
              • 1035

              #141
              Go to hahahahahahahahahahahaha and search for "buy iframe traffic".

              ****
              We buy iframe traffic for HI rates
              Our price is 40 dollars for 1000 uniq installs.
              You only need to write our short code on your page .
              Weekly payments and online friendly support is guranteed.Good percent of installs.
              Hit me up at icq 255584377 - for more info.
              ****
              These guys steal your signups: Read here.
              And sexsearch.com profit from it.
              Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
              And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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              • Troels
                Confirmed User
                • May 2002
                • 1035

                #142
                the hahaha is b0ardtrack3r
                These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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                • RawAlex
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9465

                  #143
                  If any of you review galleries or free sites, you would know that most surfers are probalby no more than 2 clicks away from infection. Currently there is a program out there that let's affiliates distribute video clips for free, and they pay for every "install" (nice word of saying "infection")... it usually looks like an attempt to install a codec.

                  Probably 1 in 10 TGPs in the CJ community have a toolbar installer on them, and probably a solid 5-10% of all chat boards are running out of date software that can easily be hacked to add the code onto every page.

                  75% is probably a high infection rate, but amoungst non-technical "bought my computer at walmart" surfers, the infection rate is probably near to that.

                  The affiliate system is getting crushed.

                  Alex

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                  • Troels
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2002
                    • 1035

                    #144
                    There is one big se guy who sets my anti virus off everytime I hit his pages.
                    A search got me this url:
                    www.niigata-bandaijima.com/amateur.html
                    it redirects a couple of times to this url:
                    http://www.osee.net/1/enter.php?amateur
                    And all kinds of warnings are popping up.
                    The first URL probably won't redirect you unless you're coming from google or any of the other engines.
                    This guy is big. At least 100k SE surfers daily I would guess, probably alot more.
                    These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                    And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                    Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                    And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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                    • Troels
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2002
                      • 1035

                      #145
                      Yep it gives you a 404.
                      Go to google and search for this:
                      site:niigata-bandaijima.com + amateur
                      Have your anti-virus in order before you click a result.
                      These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                      And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                      Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                      And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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                      • germ
                        ( o Y o )
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 3108

                        #146
                        Originally posted by AlienQ
                        SO when I see a sponsor talk about MAD ratio's some even like 1 in 30 overall for an affiliate I already know how it happened or at least can take a good guess, because nothing is that well targeted these days.

                        ive had days with 1:30 or better ratios and ive never stolen a click in my life.

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                        • V_RocKs
                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 32447

                          #147
                          The swapper ratios will be no different than anyone elses. They are not majically only swapping a buying surfer, they are swapping every surfer and then receiving signups from the entire set of traffic, just like a real affiliate.

                          So ratios won't work.

                          Talking to surfers won't work... they are sheep and lazy sheep at that.

                          How many fucking whales do most programs have? 10? 20? 50?

                          If you have 1 whale out of 30 whales and the other 29 are Sleazy, WiredGuy, etc, I think the outstanding Russian with Igor Yavstrinski would look pretty fucking obvious... Especially if you went to his homepage and alexa'ed it and saw that it gets 2K in traffic... And then you noticed his referrer log is full of Sleazy and Wired Guy's websites... yeah... it'd be pretty fucking obvious...

                          So I think the real question is why aren't sponsors doing a fucking thing about it? Because just like surfers they are sheep and lazy ones at that... They really don't feel like lifting a finger since they are making money either way and possibly avoiding a whale bonus on some of the sales....

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                          • pstation
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 1135

                            #148
                            While it's possible, i find it very unlikely that any recent trends are related to this. This is absolutely nothing new and has been going on for 5+ years now, since most people in this industry seem to focus on quantity instead of quality it's something that was simply overlooked i suppose. Here's a post on another mainstream forum about the same issue about 5 years ago here

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                            • Troels
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2002
                              • 1035

                              #149
                              Originally posted by Troels
                              There is one big se guy who sets my anti virus off everytime I hit his pages.
                              A search got me this url:
                              www.niigata-bandaijima.com/amateur.html
                              it redirects a couple of times to this url:
                              http://www.osee.net/1/enter.php?amateur
                              And all kinds of warnings are popping up.
                              The first URL probably won't redirect you unless you're coming from google or any of the other engines.
                              This guy is big. At least 100k SE surfers daily I would guess, probably alot more.
                              To me the smoke points towards this guy.
                              It would explain why WiredGuy who does business in the engines is losing sales.
                              A huge SEO guy is installing trojans on his landing pages - WiredGuy complains about lost sales.
                              This guy must have his trojans installed on millions of computers by now. It's been going on for some time.
                              And still difficult to detect stolen signups for the programs since this guy already does lots of real signups from several different domains.
                              Those trojans are at least worth a look for the more technical people.
                              These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                              And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                              Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                              And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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                              • Troels
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2002
                                • 1035

                                #150
                                Morozov, Alexander
                                555 8-th Ave #1001
                                New York, NY 10018
                                US
                                +1.2127367465

                                Although probably not real info.
                                These guys steal your signups: Read here.
                                And sexsearch.com profit from it.
                                Check out which sponsors pay thieves here.
                                And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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