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davethetruth · 05-15-2006, 01:47 PM

Here's a start I guess:

Some places you can tell your electricity provider that you want to opt for
green/renewable power service. All that means is that you want them to
fulfill your electricity use by purchasing power from renewable
providers ... wind, solar, geothermal etc. There's a very minor cost
premium on your bill that gets noted. Less than $3 a month in most
places. The more people order green power, the more they buy and the
more the price will come down.

at this site you can find out what's available anywhere

www.eere.energy.gov/greenpower

mrprezident · 09-08-2006, 05:19 PM

that is GREAT!!! i am going to look right now :o)

scottybuzz · 09-08-2006, 05:21 PM

ahahaha rock on!

minusonebit · 09-08-2006, 06:20 PM

And to think... the government spent millions to tell everyone about it and still no one knows it exists.

Webby · 09-08-2006, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davethetruth

Here's a start I guess:

Some places you can tell your electricity provider that you want to opt for
green/renewable power service.

Good starting point dave

We are working on a masterplan for project with elements like that - basically covering an area where the power supply is self-generated (green), the water is self-supplied (actually mineral water and better than the national grid) and basic foodstuffs/veg are organically grown (often using hydroponics).

Bottom line - there is no requirement for national grid power/water and saves around $250K/year for an initial investment cost of around $400K. Kinda no-brainer stuff.

Aquarius · 09-08-2006, 06:44 PM

Really cool

Lykos · 09-08-2006, 07:43 PM

not really,lol

Spunky · 09-08-2006, 07:45 PM

I'm going to start parking my car 1/2 block down the road to help out

Ace_luffy · 09-08-2006, 08:37 PM

i hope 1st country help 3rd country about saving environment................

OG LennyT · 09-08-2006, 08:39 PM

interesting... I'll look into this

sniperwolf · 09-08-2006, 10:12 PM

nice... been hearing this stuff.. hope we got that thingjhere, as well

woj · 09-08-2006, 10:19 PM

very interesting, first time I heard of it...

Thee Johnclave · 09-09-2006, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Good starting point dave

We are working on a masterplan for project with elements like that - basically covering an area where the power supply is self-generated (green), the water is self-supplied (actually mineral water and better than the national grid) and basic foodstuffs/veg are organically grown (often using hydroponics).

Bottom line - there is no requirement for national grid power/water and saves around $250K/year for an initial investment cost of around $400K. Kinda no-brainer stuff.

In what area? I'm honestly interested...please hit me up.

Webby · 09-09-2006, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy The Squid

In what area? I'm honestly interested...please hit me up.

Hi John... This particular project is in Costa Rica and the "eco" element really arises out of the existing environment which happens to be very rich in wildlife, plant life (very rich rainforest area) and in the ocean frontage with is around two miles long and a mixture of beaches and more rocky shores. The area is apparently rated by experts and the folks from National Geographic as being almost unique on the whole of the Pacific rim. Hence the interest in retaining that environment and keeping it self-sustainable.

The overall project will prob end up with around 200 - 300 max homes, but plotted out to a low density to avoid messing with the environment. We will be doing almost all infrastucture - stuff like roads, lodge, restaurant facilities, clubhouse, stores, spa and facilities for eco-tourism (hotel/lodge stuff).

The planning for the underlying element - the eco and sustainabilty side - is that all power be self-generated (there are several main options and a couple of backups on this) and the water supply would be from the land itself (it has more underground mineral water than we'd ever want).

There are many side-benefits from the eco side (I'm no expert in this field, so we have a couple of internationally-known experts advising and willing to get their hands dirty) - an example is we can grow almost anything - from rice to organic fruit and veg. The "experts" have plans for several hectares of organic farming using hydroponics. Bottom line - it means we can service the community with fresh produce and low cost. Architects have suggested anyone can have their own "hydroponic garden" as an incorporated feature of their homes, where they can grow local fruits (melon, mango etc) - this may just be little more than "show value", but means an engineer would already be on-site to make sure it all operated well.

A considerable amount of the eco-presevation and eco-tourism side is being funded by various international orgs who have an interest in the area and also in any sustainable propositions we may put to them.

We have been very lucky in support/involvement from both experienced individuals, international orgs and several educational establishments. One educational institution is the Earth University where they already have many of the elements we would like on their own campus. Their whole operation is a "working model" in sustainability - they don't rely on any national grid resources and operate around 4000 hectares of farming facility and export the final product to other countries - at a profit

We are fortunate in having a couple of their project leaders working with us and also a few folks who are the "cream" in "how the world should feed itself" - one guy just finished a test in the middle of the desert growing veg and his model has been adopted by the UN (he also got some awards for this).

There is a lot to say on this - it's a ongoing education for me and can be mindblowing

But bottom line - it's all about quality lifestyle and sustainability within a rich environment/community.

If this kinda stuff is of interest - just let me know. Apparently the degree to which we are heading on this is kinda unique - one professor who knows this stuff was saying there is nothing as complete as this proposition anywhere - so hell, we may have a "first". We will have a website up when the masterplan is finished (prob year end/early next year) and with a lot more info.

PS Just gimme a nice place to have breakfast and some cable/satellite gear functioning and a club/bar to look over the sunset in the evening and I'm a happy lad

minusonebit · 09-09-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Hi John... This particular project is in Costa Rica and the "eco" element really arises out of the existing environment which happens to be very rich in wildlife, plant life (very rich rainforest area) and in the ocean frontage with is around two miles long and a mixture of beaches and more rocky shores. The area is apparently rated by experts and the folks from National Geographic as being almost unique on the whole of the Pacific rim. Hence the interest in retaining that environment and keeping it self-sustainable.

The overall project will prob end up with around 200 - 300 max homes, but plotted out to a low density to avoid messing with the environment. We will be doing almost all infrastucture - stuff like roads, lodge, restaurant facilities, clubhouse, stores, spa and facilities for eco-tourism (hotel/lodge stuff).

The planning for the underlying element - the eco and sustainabilty side - is that all power be self-generated (there are several main options and a couple of backups on this) and the water supply would be from the land itself (it has more underground mineral water than we'd ever want).

There are many side-benefits from the eco side (I'm no expert in this field, so we have a couple of internationally-known experts advising and willing to get their hands dirty) - an example is we can grow almost anything - from rice to organic fruit and veg. The "experts" have plans for several hectares of organic farming using hydroponics. Bottom line - it means we can service the community with fresh produce and low cost. Architects have suggested anyone can have their own "hydroponic garden" as an incorporated feature of their homes, where they can grow local fruits (melon, mango etc) - this may just be little more than "show value", but means an engineer would already be on-site to make sure it all operated well.

A considerable amount of the eco-presevation and eco-tourism side is being funded by various international orgs who have an interest in the area and also in any sustainable propositions we may put to them.

We have been very lucky in support/involvement from both experienced individuals, international orgs and several educational establishments. One educational institution is the Earth University where they already have many of the elements we would like on their own campus. Their whole operation is a "working model" in sustainability - they don't rely on any national grid resources and operate around 4000 hectares of farming facility and export the final product to other countries - at a profit

We are fortunate in having a couple of their project leaders working with us and also a few folks who are the "cream" in "how the world should feed itself" - one guy just finished a test in the middle of the desert growing veg and his model has been adopted by the UN (he also got some awards for this).

There is a lot to say on this - it's a ongoing education for me and can be mindblowing

But bottom line - it's all about quality lifestyle and sustainability within a rich environment/community.

If this kinda stuff is of interest - just let me know. Apparently the degree to which we are heading on this is kinda unique - one professor who knows this stuff was saying there is nothing as complete as this proposition anywhere - so hell, we may have a "first". We will have a website up when the masterplan is finished (prob year end/early next year) and with a lot more info.

PS Just gimme a nice place to have breakfast and some cable/satellite gear functioning and a club/bar to look over the sunset in the evening and I'm a happy lad

Maybe there is still hope.

One thing is for certain, the human race will kill itself within the next couple hundred years if we dont change the way we live. Way too much fucking and way too much breeding is going on these days. People are cranking out more kids than what the planet can handle and no one looks back, they bury thier head and push another one out.

While I think wars are a huge waste of money and I hate them as much as the next guy, the one small part of me that hopes Bush suceeds in kicking off WWIII is knowing that the war will have a heavy death tolll which in some ways would act as a circuit breaker to ease up the load on mother earth just a little bit.

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