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FreeHugeMovies 05-16-2006 03:17 PM

My problem is. You are stealing text and putting it on your own site. That is my problem.

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Originally Posted by Egomancer
NO rabbit, I will write my own pieces of text because those that you have are not good for that. I just wanted to see how they are done and see what they have in.

As I said I am still thinking how to make them - I will come to a solution this week I hope. To FreeHugeMovies - what is your problem? DO you fear competition? You can write a review by hand or you can generate it, I prefer to generate it because it is simpler and this is evolution.

Just relax, I won't use your reviews, I have no need for that, as I said I will generate my own ones. Like 1000 per day... If this script will work then you are obsolete...

Egomancer

To free


Egomancer 05-16-2006 03:20 PM

Mr Pinks,

From time to time I receive reviews and people ask me if I want to buy them. 90% of them are pathetic, I mean seriously a half assed script could do them better.
When you start showing the reviewers that they repeat I get answers like this: It's the 10th lesbian site review I make today, it is normal that things repeat.
NO THANK YOU!

I do not want that.

Also the literary quality of the average review is awful. Now, I do not require a masterpiece, but fuck, those reviews need to sell, and they don't. Now please contradict me if I am not right.

Last factor: the cost. A good review is like 10-20$. If you have like 2000 reviews to make this costs you between 20k and 40k. In other words the salary of a decent programmer for half a year. MOre than that, supposing that you are stupid enough to pay 20k for all the reviews it will take like 200 days (6 months) to get all of them done.

Do you still follow me?
What if we have a script that based on what input texts you use for generate it makes those 2000 UNIQUE and good quality reviews in like 2 minutes?
You can choose to spend 20k to get high quality reviews (they will be better than the generated ones - I know that) or invest 1-2k in a script that generates them (which I plan to do). I say that my solution is better.

Egomancer

Egomancer 05-16-2006 03:23 PM

About steeling text and using it on my site that is not true. Those texts were put there as a test and they will be removed tomorrow my morning. This is the reason why the site had 0 promotion - I did not want to earn money from the work of someone else because it was IP stealing.

I do see that you are bitter when you see that the tens of k's of USD you invested in something are used by someone else but I assure you that this is not the case.

Egomancer

nestle 05-16-2006 03:36 PM

Listen (or rather, read), it's very simple. Lookup the word plagiarism. If you are using any other person's work to 'generate' your own as you said, if you do not reference back to the original work (as in tell the readers where the original work is located and who wrote it) then this is plagiarizing. It is that simple.

Even if you do not take a sentence directly but paraphrase it to make it read differently but the meaning is the same, you still need to reference the work to used.

You admit harvesting data from another sites and you apologized for that. Fine, that is cool. But saying you are still using those data to generate your own data shows how ignorant you are.

Egomancer 05-16-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nestle
Listen (or rather, read), it's very simple. Lookup the word plagiarism. If you are using any other person's work to 'generate' your own as you said, if you do not reference back to the original work (as in tell the readers where the original work is located and who wrote it) then this is plagiarizing. It is that simple.

Even if you do not take a sentence directly but paraphrase it to make it read differently but the meaning is the same, you still need to reference the work to used.

You admit harvesting data from another sites and you apologized for that. Fine, that is cool. But saying you are still using those data to generate your own data shows how ignorant you are.


This is what I try to explain in the last 10 posts: I am NOT going to use the data from other sites to generate the reviews because I need it in another format. I wanted to have all those reviews to see the rules. When you write a letter you have a certain format for it as: the beggining, the content and the end, eventually the postscriptum. The same rules apply for the reviews and you can not formalize the rule if you have only one sample.

I hope that things are clear now.

Egomancer

justsexxx 05-16-2006 03:48 PM

Okay, but a few posts up you said:

When one of my programmers will have some free time I will write a script to generate some unique description based on the harvested ones.......

Egomancer 05-16-2006 03:54 PM

'based on the harvested ones' means based on the format rules we got from the harvested reviews.

As an example, the standard review is made by 5 main parts: the introduction, the content description, the advantage description, the price description, the conclusion. This is one format and you can have multiple ones. I will write like 10 introductions (not taken from any site, just written by me), 10 content descriptions, 5 advantage description and so on. The content will be original (as it is written by me) and using this I can generate like 10000 reviews using only 5 parts.

This is a very simplist description of the system. The good think is that you can use the parts for different formats.

Egomancer

Egomancer 05-16-2006 03:59 PM

I just hit 900 posts BTW ;)

Egomancer

HairToStay 05-16-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egomancer
Last factor: the cost. A good review is like 10-20$. If you have like 2000 reviews to make this costs you between 20k and 40k. In other words the salary of a decent programmer for half a year. MOre than that, supposing that you are stupid enough to pay 20k for all the reviews it will take like 200 days (6 months) to get all of them done.

So, instead of spending money you simply use someone else's reviews???

I must be really stupid to have spent money on my review site, huh? Then Rabbit and The Best Porn must be pretty stupid too, huh?

Nothing you can say can justify theft. If you think you're safe from DMCA because you live outside the USA, think again since you host in the USA.

Egomancer 05-16-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HairToStay
So, instead of spending money you simply use someone else's reviews???

I must be really stupid to have spent money on my review site, huh? Then Rabbit and The Best Porn must be pretty stupid too, huh?

Nothing you can say can justify theft. If you think you're safe from DMCA because you live outside the USA, think again since you host in the USA.

read the whole thread before you reply.

I go to sleep...

Egomancer

Abyss_Vee 05-16-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Egomancer
look at this:

www.pornxtop.com

I can sell the site and make different templates for it (it is done in smarty).

Egomancer


Great job copying our color theme from our review site......... :mad:

Young 05-16-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egomancer
Also if there is a request I will write a script that generates descriptions based on some templates - this way I can generate the 2000-4000 reviews needed for such a site in a matter of minutes. Before you say that it can not be done I will tell you that this is possible - we made someting similar for another project.

As I predicted. Review Sites = The New TGP

Rictor 05-16-2006 05:08 PM

I've been looking for a script like that for about 2 years now. I figured there'd be 10 different companies selling one by now. Programmers are always about 2-3 years behind the curve of what webmasters are actually looking for.

Rictor 05-16-2006 05:10 PM

You'd also think there'd be about 20 adult blog scripts by now...something like Wordpress only aimed at adult webmasters...letting you run multiple blogs from the same admin and better incorporate existing advertising tools into the design.


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