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AdultWire · 05-18-2002, 11:16 AM

You are not a court, and no-one has to prove their innocense to you. Simply failing to prove your innocense it not a crime. Perhaps you should focus more on demonstrating guilt than demonstration a failure to prove innocense.

Va2k · 05-18-2002, 11:29 AM

now someone else that makes sence

AdultWire · 05-18-2002, 01:46 PM

Unless these claims are proven to be true in a court of law, this post, which clearly has the intent of harming Eru's business, is slander/libel.

BV · 05-18-2002, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by AdultWire
Unless these claims are proven to be true in a court of law, this post, which clearly has the intent of harming Eru's business, is slander/libel.

and that would have to be proven in a court of law as well.....

AdultWire · 05-18-2002, 03:24 PM

It was a conditional statement. It wasn't an accusation.

If you stab someone to death, it's murder -- that's true whether you stab someone or not.

UnseenWorld · 05-18-2002, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by AdultWire
You are not a court, and no-one has to prove their innocense to you. Simply failing to prove your innocense it not a crime. Perhaps you should focus more on demonstrating guilt than demonstration a failure to prove innocense.

You may have to prove your innocence to people who want to do business with honest businesspeople. Our civil rights (e.g., due process) are mainly rights we have with reference to the government. If I choose not to deal with someone who can't prove he owns the content he uses, that's my right. More than once someone has inquired about my content, I go to his site and see stuff I strongly suspect is newsgroup material, and if he can't document his right to use it, I refuse to let him even look at my stuff. When I see stuff I think is stolen, the burden of proof IS on him, because I don't have to do business with him.

My more successful clients value their businesses too much to fuck around with stolen or dubious material.

AdultWire · 05-18-2002, 05:08 PM

That's fine, but choosing not to do business with someone and posting libel are two different things.

UnseenWorld · 05-18-2002, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by AdultWire
That's fine, but choosing not to do business with someone and posting libel are two different things.

There you are right. Anyone who thinks he is exempt from slander and libel suits for things he says on GFY is sorely mistaken.

DrewKole · 05-18-2002, 05:17 PM

Bulldog, care to post a link to one of your sites? Id love to see what kinda licensed content ya use.

Fuckin pricks like you piss me off, I buy all of my content through my friends at matrix, phoenix, garill, ounique, etc.

Do I have a license to every one of the pics? Yes. Do I have it in 8 file cabinets? Yes.

Its just a bitch to go through everything, once one of you pricks decides you're bored. I end up contacting my provider, and have them deal with it, which they are happy to do, just because I've got years worth of BS, Id have to sort through.

Again, dicks like you piss me off, anonymous fucks.

AdultWire · 05-18-2002, 05:22 PM

Yeah.. understand, I'm not defending Eru *if* he's using unlicensed content, but it's REAL IRRESPONSIBLE to make claims that someone is breaking the law without one shred of evidence.

Even the idea that he has to have a written license is flawed. Maybe a buddy of his shot the film, and said "you can use it on your website" verbally. It's hard to prove, but it's 100% legal.

Rod · 05-18-2002, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by AdultWire
Yeah.. understand, I'm not defending Eru *if* he's using unlicensed content, but it's REAL IRRESPONSIBLE to make claims that someone is breaking the law without one shred of evidence.

Even the idea that he has to have a written license is flawed. Maybe a buddy of his shot the film, and said "you can use it on your website" verbally. It's hard to prove, but it's 100% legal.

I totally approve this ...

05-18-2002, 11:16 AM	#51
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	You are not a court, and no-one has to prove their innocense to you. Simply failing to prove your innocense it not a crime. Perhaps you should focus more on demonstrating guilt than demonstration a failure to prove innocense. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-18-2002, 11:29 AM	#52
Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	now someone else that makes sence __________________

05-18-2002, 01:46 PM	#53
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	Unless these claims are proven to be true in a court of law, this post, which clearly has the intent of harming Eru's business, is slander/libel. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-18-2002, 03:24 PM	#55
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	It was a conditional statement. It wasn't an accusation. If you stab someone to death, it's murder -- that's true whether you stab someone or not. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-18-2002, 05:08 PM	#57
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	That's fine, but choosing not to do business with someone and posting libel are two different things. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

05-18-2002, 05:17 PM	#59
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Bulldog, care to post a link to one of your sites? Id love to see what kinda licensed content ya use. Fuckin pricks like you piss me off, I buy all of my content through my friends at matrix, phoenix, garill, ounique, etc. Do I have a license to every one of the pics? Yes. Do I have it in 8 file cabinets? Yes. Its just a bitch to go through everything, once one of you pricks decides you're bored. I end up contacting my provider, and have them deal with it, which they are happy to do, just because I've got years worth of BS, Id have to sort through. Again, dicks like you piss me off, anonymous fucks.

05-18-2002, 05:22 PM	#60
AdultWire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 962	Yeah.. understand, I'm not defending Eru if he's using unlicensed content, but it's REAL IRRESPONSIBLE to make claims that someone is breaking the law without one shred of evidence. Even the idea that he has to have a written license is flawed. Maybe a buddy of his shot the film, and said "you can use it on your website" verbally. It's hard to prove, but it's 100% legal. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.