thats easy money with the hun

If somebody is just buying spots on the hun y doesnt the program just do it that themselves? Curious

Gallery was listed as ''babe'' as said by Lenny while it's a Tranny gallery. Gallery didn't load too quick aswell on my side & crashed as soon I clicked on a video. Would surprise me if it hits 20 sales even :2 cents:

10 tranny sales for videos that don't work is pretty good IMO.

:2 cents:

I hope Lenny gets on and fixes that shit... I'd like to see this shit play out on an even playing field.

Kudos to Epiccash for puting their money where their mouth is.

By 2007 any sponsor not promoted by Lenny will be assed out?

Galleries do work here(IE+WMP)

One thing I was thinking about on these challenges though...

A sponsor who wants to look good just has to credit Lenny 15 signups more than anyone else gave him and walla, they get a massive amount of good publicity and a lot of whales coming on board to try them out.

Would be nice to have an independent view of the transactions... Like a processor coming on and making sure the sales weren't generated by the sponsors admin panel.

I am in no way saying Hundies or Epic would do such a thing, but I am one of them paranoya peeps.

I also wanted to ask Epic, Lenny isn't paying for the traffic correct? It is hosted by you? Can we all do the same thing?

Exactly. But all they're doing is buying PR.

Anyone who thinks you could ever get an honest number over something like this is dilluting themselves. :2 cents:

Really since a program can credit you joins why would they not? If they have to pay you for 30 joins anyway who on earth would put up with the bad PR of saying "our bad" rather then just giving you the same amount of money internally?

Sure, you've found a way to guarantee your money. Great. It doesn't change the fact that these publicity stunts are misleading.

heh - just means that lenny had a great idea :thumbsup

So, based on what you're saying it's a LOSE/LOSE situation for any Sponsor that agrees to guarantee Lenny??? if they fall under the target join# "they suck"? if they meet/exceed the #, they're blamed for reverse-shaving? :upsidedow "Damned if you do, damned if you don't. :1orglaugh shit, so why even bother?

gotta admit, it's fun to watch the results... legit or not.


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Wow this thread got busy in a hurry.
Sorry it's the weekend and I wasn't really following the boards.

As for the videos working, they do work fine in IE...I didn't think to check them in firefox but you guys are right they're loading in asci. I have no idea how that happened, it's not a script or anything, just a straight hyperlink to the clip. Maybe it has something to do with antihotlinking software on the server? I'm not a techie so I couldn't tell you.

Thankfully firefox is a small percentage of users, so that shouldn't hurt us too badly.

It looks fine in firefox to me. Maybe you didn't wait for the background image to load??

As for the update, we're at 17 sales now at 10pm on day 2.

Better demand cash in advance, too. :D

Because all of us are good at different things.

That's like asking why does a program need affiliates at all when they can just build and submit galleries and free sites themselves?

Or why does the hun sell spots when he could just hire people to build a bunch of galleries for him and keep all of those signups for himself?

Or if WiredGuy's search engine traffic is so good why does he sell it to traffic cash gold instead of building his own paysites and keeping 100% of the money?

We all have different areas of talent and expertise and there are only so many hours in a day. You can't do "everything", and if you try to most of it won't get done well.

Yeah but if that was the case then I'd never do less than 30 sales on one of these deals.
Right now it looks like we'll do something in the low 20's, but for this niche that's still good.
If I was promoting tranny outside of this challenge I would go for revshare, because a niche like tranny is going to retain a hell of a lot longer than teens or babes or something more mainstream like that.
While I would have gotten bigger signup numbers with a teen site or something like that, the $$ value of each signup is alot higher with a niche like tranny, so even though we're not going to do 30 signups I'm sure Epic Cash will still make out financially on this deal in the long run.

Plus regardless of the results you have to give them credit for having the cajones to make a guarantee in order to drum up new business. It shows you how hard they're willing to work to earn your traffic.

There's always going to be paranoid people out there in their tin foil hats accusing somebody of doing something wrong.

It's like the people that think that when a sponsor does a $75 per signup day they shave half the joins in order to afford the $75 per signup.
Of course they don't realize that this would totally defeat the purpose of having a $75 day, which is to try and get new people to promote you and hopefully convert better for them than what they're using now so you can get some permanent traffic out of the deal.

Of course some people can never be convinced, it wouldn't matter if you used NATS, or CCBill's system, or had your books audited by Ghandi, they'd still think you were somehow cheating them.

I agree it would defeat the purpose... I don't really get it... but personally I've never done well on thoses days (except with AAC 100$ signup days). My friend at ARS used to get massive signup ammounts (he was in the top affiliates, most of the time 2nd in the line), and thoses days sucked for him as well sales wise... allthought he sure made more money then usual still.

see sig :)

some interesting stats, thanks for sharing :thumbsup

100.........

bump for the retards

ROFL :1orglaugh !!

hahahahahah:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

good answer... cause I've always wondered most of the above. :winkwink:


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I see your swartz is as big as mine.

"So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

We are very pleased with the results so far...being tranny and all...and we are MORE than happy to work with affiliates to provide the tools the need...hosting,content...etc.....I had NO problem guaranteeing Lenny to give us a try....even if we do not hit the mark.

Lenny...please hit me up tomorrow sometime so we can chat about the gallery..traffic..etc...you are officially a whale and i have something extra for you......

Thanks for the mostly positive posts which is rare for an Epic thread...and just wait until you see what we have for you guys this week!!!

BLING!!!:thumbsup

Well said!

Another question, who chose the tranny site?

It's actually a web server configuration issue so it is your responsibility. Your server is returning:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

... for a WMV file. That's why some browsers are showing it as text.

Lenny asked what we had...i picked the site.....

Rowan...i will actually have tech look at that for sure....:thumbsup

goodluck man hope you do well.

How many sales so far then?

bump5678... interested to see how the campaign is going

Update???

Update, we finished at 21 sales.
While it's not as high of a number as we'd have liked, for a niche like Tranny it's very good (considering retention in that niche is much stronger than it is for vanilla porn)

Thanks much to Epic Cash for participating in the challenge and to Jim for being 100% professional throughout the entire process.
I was very impressed with him as a business person and as a spokesperson for the company. We'll be doing business again very soon :thumbsup

So what happens now? They guaranteed you a payout for 30 sales, you made only 21. You get your $ this time but obviously they cannot sustain a deal like this indefinitely...

Not hating, I am just curious at what has actually been achieved here. :thumbsup

Hmm, the WMV file type issue still hasn't been fixed... wonder how many sales were missed because of that...

9 would be my guess. :1orglaugh