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posted on ICANN by Tom Hymes:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00412.html

(The following letter is posted with the permission of Larry Flynt. The
link is to a .jpg of the letter. - Tom Hymes)


http://www.freespeechonline.org/webd...rXXXLetter.jpg


April 2006

Dear ICANN Representatives,

Speaking on behalf of my company, Flynt Management Group, LLC I would
like to state my opposition to the creation of a dot xxx top level
domain (TLD), which I believe represents a direct threat to freedom of
speech on the Internet. Legislation was recently introduced in the U.S.
senate that will create a mandatory .xxx TLD, and in Australia a law has
been proposed that would institute ISP-level filtering of adult content.
Even if these individual initiatives fail, they have convinced me that
is it inevitable that government will continue to try to impose a
regulatory scheme on dot xxx that is unnecessary and unconstitutional.

Flynt Management Group, LLC has been a leader in the adult entertainment
industry for 32 years. As a producer of high quality adult products made
by adults for adults, my company has helped make this industry the
legitimate business it is today. I am dedicated to supporting a
responsible working environment that conforms to the laws of the land,
and actively support efforts to make the Internet safe for children,
paticularly through education, good business practices, and by
advocating the use of filtering technologies, which have become
increasingly effective and easy to use.

But dot xxx is an inherently dangerous idea with no real purpose. Only
if it becomes a tool of censorship will it achieve its goal of
preventing access to adult content by minors, and if it falls short of
that goal, what reason for it was there for it in the first place,
especially if alternative methods and tools can achieve the same
results. This industry is open to all solutions to making the Internet
a safer and freer place, but dot xxx is not one of them.

Because of these concerns and others, I respectfully request that ICANN
reject the current ICM Registry application.

Sincerely,

Larry Flynt
President

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polish_aristocrat

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polish_aristocrat

but will ICANN even see it...?

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MikeHawk

Way to go Larry Flynt................



NO TO .XXX

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FightThisPatent

Yes, FSC is sending it right to Dr. Cerf/ICANN

and knowing Hustler, probably with a copy of the hustler magazine


Fight the product placement!

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Spunky

Good ole Larry

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MikeHawk

Right here with all the rest of our letters, our letters and email count.......so does Larry Flynt!

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld.../msg00412.html

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2HousePlague

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat but will ICANN even see it...?

They have no choice. No more running & hiding for ICANN.

2hp

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FightThisPatent

been a long time coming.. but finally here.. lots of people working behind the scenes to help make this happen....


Fight the do-gooders!

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RyuLion

Woah! nice one, I hope it doesn't go through either..

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BoyAlley

minusonebit

Larry is a good guy.

FightThisPatent, I thought you posted your last .xxx thread. Couldnt resist, could ya?

AkiraSS

Larry rulz

jayeff

Go Larry

Maybe we do have some industry leaders after all: a few "names" have stood up today. The rest... they should be ashamed of themselves.

FightThisPatent

dangnabit.. busted.. you're right

ok, so NOW this is my last thread i start about .XXX



Fight the famous last words!

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Harley Girl

All i can say is "WOW" what a powerful letter !

So, if someone who has lead our industry for 32 years and primarily formed it to what it is today thinks that the DOT XXX is a bad idea - does that not tell all you people who are "pro dot xxx " that maybe it's time to rethink your decision?!

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Tom_PM

Nice letter. I wrote pretty much the same things, but in my typically rambling style, lol.

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polish_aristocrat

well, do you see anyone pro-.xxx here?

i dont

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CyberHustler

lol ...hope this works

Harley Girl

i can honestly and very proudly say... in the last few days i have not really seen anyone who is "pro dot xxx" ....

All it takes is our industry sticking together and standing ground and we can accomplish more then most people think!

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jayeff

Except we are not sticking together. How many webmasters with plenty of time to whore their sigs still haven't taken a couple of minutes to email ICANN? And don't forget ICM had plenty of help with their application, even if those willing to f*ck us all over are keeping a low profile now.

FightThisPatent

The companies below sent me an email from the first round of public comment periods to have their names be publically listed on http://www.FightTheDotXXX.com as taking a public stand against .XXX
(a fax and printed copy was sent to ICANN for the last round in the comment period)

lots of names you'll recognize, i see:



Free Speech Coalition (trade association)

Sex.com (search portal)

Home Grown Video (paysites)

YNOT (webmaster resource site)

Adam & Eve (novelties and video)

SmashBucks (paysites)

LightSpeed (paysites)

Sunny Dollars (paysites)

Webmaster Paradise (content plugins)

ATKINGDOM (paysites)

Porn Profit (paysites)

The SCORE Group (paysites)

HotMovies.com (video on demand)

Choker Traffic (traffic broker)

Quentin Boyer (individual)

MojoHost (ISP)

Yanks Cash (paysites)

Sex Pictures Pass (AVS)

Pimps Promo (marketing)

Team Click Cash (paysites)

Amazing Content (content producer)

Payserve (paysites)

AskJolene (search engine)

Nysus (internet entrepreneur)

Twistys (paysites)

arikaames.com (paysite)

kickass.com (paysites)

Len Palmer (internet entrepreneur)

Marc (formerly of Matrix Content)

Harley Girl (webgoddess)

Iron Griffin Media (free sites)

AdultWebmasterLabor.com (webmaster resource)

Lowkey Productions (video production)

tiffinivids.com (Amateur Video)

afsac.org (advocacy group)

InGayPorn.com (blog)

12clicks (internet bon vivant)

ObjectCube (software for adult)

Babagirl (adult webmistress)

The Adult Broker (marketing consultant)

PPPcard.net (payment solution)

KarupsPC.com (paysite)

MikeSouth.com (video producer/director)

Aly (industry personality)

SplitInfinity Networks, INC (webhost)

OC3 Networks (webhost/ISP)

Wasteland.com (paysite)

Fredricks Media Group (Producers/ web sites)

3Fall Productions (producers, paysites)

bellavendetta.com (fetish website)

Wolfy (webmaster)

Internet Co. (paysites)

DarkLady (journalist)

Consumption Junction (free site)

NichePay (paysites)

JDL "juicy" Media Group (Consulting Firm)

WorldWideContent.com (content provider)

sponsorslist.com (webmaster resource site)

Spunkycash (paysites)

Serpent Studios S.A. (paysites)

John Foulds "jayeff" (webmaster)

ViceReview.com (paysite reviews)

URLSX.com (webmaster resource)

eAdultIndustry.com (webmaster resource)

sponsorspecs.com (adult sponsor resource)

interracial-living.com (paysites)

AAA News (online retailer)

BBS-LA (ISP)

Mob Bucks (paysites)

KB (marketeur/industry personality)

BlueToon Media (paysites)

WWW. COM INC (concerned tax payer)

J. D. Obenberger and Associates (attorney)

Eric M. Bernstein (attorney)

Eric Frey (webmaster)

AEBN (video on-demand)

Silvercash (paysites)

WebOverdrive.com (webmaster resource)

SunUp Media Group, Inc. (paysites, content)

SunDown Media Group, Inc. (paysites)

Ademia Multimedia (plugins)

National A-1 Internet (ISP)

JQMedia aka Jays XXX Links (traffic master)

OC Cash (paysites)

MacDaddy Bucks (paysites)

tony404 (photographer/editor)

iAlien LLC (designer)


(there were a few more individuals who mailed in their support, and i hadn't had the time to update it.. .but thanks to those as well).


Fight the romper room!

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DavieVegas

doubt it...all these opposes are going to midget in wonka land

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Redrob

Take a moment and send a letter.....bump

tony286

kudos to Larry

wdsguy

go Larry

baddog

thank you Mr Flynt

Spankys Teens

that was his lawyer, i doublt flynt himself

Good show anyways

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KRL

Good one!

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DirtyRider

Very nice of him to take the time to do this.

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PamiebDVD

I sent mine.

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jesse_adultdatingdollars

Go Larry!

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Bliz

If Greg Dumas is actually on the board of directors at the FSC, please kick him in the nuts for sending this email to ICANN in May 2004. I'm sure Larry and others he named would appreciate him speaking on their behalf regarding such important issues.


From the email archives:

http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html



Title: Leaders in the Online Adult Industry Support .xxx

I write this to communicate my support for the .xxx TLD proposal. I write as an experienced member of the online Adult Industry and have been since 1995.

I currently own an Internet marketing company specializing in adult website marketing since 2001. Prior to that I was President of IGallery, as subsidiary of New Frontier media, a NASDAQ listed company from 1996 to 2001 and prior to that was VP of Marketing for Hustler launching its flagship site in 1995.

I am also a director of the Free Speech Coalition since 2001.

All these companies share one belief ... that child pornography is illegal, it is morally wrong and it should be stopped. This application demonstrates that belief and that the adult industry is prepared to both do something about child pornography and open up a dialogue with the broader Internet community.

.xxx offers an opportunity for the online adult industry act responsibly.

It provides a new forum and platform for the online adult industry to begin to self-organize and to develop their own credible and responsible business practices.

I have personally met with many of the leaders in the online adult community from around the world ... from Python Communications in Curacao ... to Netcollex in the UK ... to Hustler, Vivid, AVN and many many more have all demonstrated their support for this application.

In addition, there is great concern about the risks posed to the industry if .xxx was to ever become a generic TLD.

No other application has stronger industry support or as broad and diverse a community of International supporters from all impacted stakeholders.

Greg Dumas

Bliz

Oh... Larry and www.flyntdigital.com rock!

Paraskass

Burn Greg, BURN

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davecummings

You certainly said that right---I was starting to pull out my three remaining pieces of hair trying to figure out a way to get this engine humming. Thanks to Larry Flynt, we have a BIG guy speaking out.

Why aren't a LOT more of the Adult Internet BIG guys speaking out????????????

Dave

reynold

He's the man! way to go Larry Flynt....go fight it.

martinsc

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davecummings

Will someone who knows his email PLEASE ask Greg to quickly email ICANN rescinding his letter?

Please, Greg???

Dave

2HousePlague

When was that letter written --

2hp

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Connor

Greg Dumas hasn't been on the Board of the FSC for a long time... been quite a few years.

Thank you Larry Flynt, I'm VERY pleased you did the right thing here!

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Bliz

When was that letter written --

LOL

True. Although I find that email rather disturbing for many reasons. With many wondering why ICANN has the idea that the adult net fully supports .XXX, his letter gives some insight.

It seems Greg is/was not only on the board of directors for the FSC, but on the board at the IMC Registry as well. At the same time! Not trying to burn anyone at the stake here, but doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest to you?

davecummings

Gosh, maybe Brandon or someone should consider making you insight opinions known to ICANN? Can YOU also post an email about that to [email protected]?

Dave

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE

I hope some of ya feel guilty about accusing the "Big Guys" in the back room making deals...

So I suppose Hustler is Vindicated as one of those that are not in the back room making deals.

All good news.

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Jamie

Can we get a few girls to hand deliver it?

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polish_aristocrat

Sarah_Jayne

now if playboy.com sent something similar it would be hard to say with two household porn names against it that .xxx has the support of the industry

FightThisPatent

I believe at the time that Greg Dumas wrote he was an FSC director, that he wasn't.

Date of his ICANN posting: 14 May 2004

Quote from the July 16, 2004 Free Speaker (http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/n...ter7-16-04.htm)

"FSC WEBSITE HAS A NEW LOOK!
It took longer that we expected and is still under construction, but our new FSC website is UP! Thanks so much to board member Sid Grief of AAANews.com, former board member Greg Dumas and the folks at AVN Online for the important part each played in updating our site. "

Greg has done alot for the biz and very supportive of the FSC, though it is understandable that his post on ICANN in support for .XXX and making it seem like the adult biz supports .XXX, casts a big shadow over him.




Where did you see that Dumas was on the board of directors at ICM?
http://www.icmregistry.com/for_aboutus.html

I've never heard that before.


Fight the nancy drew!

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Egomancer

Well, I have a feeling that .xxx will be in anyway, whatever protests we make.

Egomancer

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Nikki_Licks

Brandon, you forgot me

Please include Laughing Loon Productions, L.L.C. (Nikki_Licks)
I know you have been busy...just want to be on the list of companies that oppose this .XXX.

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