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sfera 05-08-2006 03:12 PM
they fight goes on

JumpStreet21 05-08-2006 03:15 PM
GFY is full of class a morons all they can come up with is a bunch of what if's .xxx is just like .com .biz .info etc etc

polle54 05-08-2006 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
the internet is under american rules.

edit- what I mean by that is that all the main countries who are allowed to surf porn abide my usa laws

those faggots who dont and who hate america, have no real source of income flowing into the internet


there are some bad sites out there, but no americans can surf them

please are you even a webmaster?
scotty I read your thread with open eyes but you just showed a great deal of ignorence here.

You clearly do not have a clue whats going on.

pornpf69 05-08-2006 03:35 PM
if you want kids to be safe make a TLD called .KIDS
which will only be used to tods....so screw the XXX tld!!!

scottybuzz 05-09-2006 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparks
Lol, wow Scotty... I think most of us can tell from your post that you are not a real experienced webmaster... especially in adult. I'm newer than some around here, but most of your points sound very unresearched and uneducated.

First, you post on a fake nick.... no balls. No one on this board with any reputation or who has worked in this industry for any extended period of time would be for .xxx for the reasons that you are. One of the great things about this industry is you don't have to be a "big timer" to make some cash. There are people here who make a couple hundred bucks a month, so several thousand, to hundreds of thousands. Why should the "big dogs" take over? Ever heard of a monopoly or an oligopoly...neither would do the porn industry any good... and don't do most industries any good. The porn industry would not survive with either, and quite honestly a lot of sponsors would have a hard time without us affiliates.

So what's the real problem with minors accessing porn? THEY are looking for it. I was 12 once and I wanted free porn. I went to my favorite search engine (AltaVista at the time) and searched for it. I simply clicked the "Enter" button and BAM I had free porn. So what would have stopped me? At the time I knew WAY more about computers than my parents and there wasn't even such a thing as a filter then. So, here is what RESPONSIBLE parents should do;

1. Setup a username for their children on their computer
2. Setup filters to block porn
3. SUPERVISE their children while they are using the internet

Children are accessing porn because they want to. It is not accident when some 12 year old goes to realsmutty.com... If they type in that domain they know what they are doing, or found it through a search engine with some terms that they shouldn't be using.

Don't want to look after your children all day long? Tough shit. Until they are 18 you are legally responsible for their actions (In the good ol' USA, anyways). I agree you can't spend every waking moment of the day with them, but be proactive and setup filters, their own usernames, ect. so they can't access it.

Your arguments are weaker than your spelling and grammer. You attack the webmaster profession because entry into the market is so easy, but just by seeing how you write tells me it would be difficult for you to enter just about any indusrty. If you are going to come here to attack our profession, do it in an educated, supported, and professional manner.


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First, you post on a fake nick.... no balls.
To be ohnest I dont think noone needs to know who I am, because I am simply putting points through agreeing with xxx, nothing about me needs to be put forward.

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Your arguments are weaker than your spelling and grammer. You attack the webmaster profession because entry into the market is so easy, but just by seeing how you write tells me it would be difficult for you to enter just about any indusrty. If you are going to come here to attack our profession, do it in an educated, supported, and professional manner

I didnt know this industry needed perfect grammar, I have been to shows where some peoples i.q. are lower than their shoesize.

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Don't want to look after your children all day long? Tough shit. Until they are 18 you are legally responsible for their actions (In the good ol' USA, anyways). I agree you can't spend every waking moment of the day with them, but be proactive and setup filters, their own usernames, ect. so they can't access it.
If you can tell me about parents who are with their kids 24 hours a day who are not hicks please tell me.


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Children are accessing porn because they want to. It is not accident when some 12 year old goes to realsmutty.com... If they type in that domain they know what they are doing, or found it through a search engine with some terms that they shouldn't be using.

I do not disagree, of course they want porn, but for any other media way, it is blocked of. I wanted top shelf mags. But I can tell you now, in some cases porn is throw into the net when people dont want it. Porn is not found just through domains and search eginnes.


I also disagree with anybody entering an industry, because it yes anybody, as long as you have $20 you could let in some layabout shitface who will screw you over given any chance


but thanks for your arguments, I am glad you took the time to write something constructive, unlucky the other people who just write 1 sentence answers.

scottybuzz 05-09-2006 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by baddog
I thought you were a spineless pussy in the beginning post, now I think you are a spineless, ignorant pussy.

I find it amusing that you were dumb enough to include your Mayor's Money referral ID in your sig . . . you really think people will sign up under you, or that someone won't go thru all the Mayors Money sigs and find out which is yours?
I dont understand you? I infact come up with some valid points, which I allow people to disagree with yet you use language like that? sure I am using a referal id. i did realise, but why the slander?

scottybuzz 05-09-2006 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Xplicit
It really is a horrible argument when you think GLOBALLY, which you are not.

The internet is world wide, every modern countries population is online, from America to Europe, to Asia.

.xxx will lead to U.S. laws, and maye some in the EU and Canada. The problem is, it still leaves hundreds of countries webmasters will host their sites from, and incorperate their business in.

This means this MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR *TAXED* AMERICAN INDUSTRY WILL NO LONGER BE PAYING TAXES IN THE USA!!!
yet other medias abide by the laws....

why does the internet have to be different?

StuartD 05-09-2006 07:48 AM
stupid stupid stupid.

BlackCrayon 05-09-2006 08:09 AM
i can watch anal porn on 'mainstream' movie channels after 9...what kids are to bed by 9? 10 year olds? what about the rest? you're telling me a 15 yr old goes to bed at 9? give me a break.

also in montreal i can walk down the street with a 2 year old and see nude pictures of women in the windows at strip clubs downtown any time of the day. in europe mainstream commercials contain nudity. america is so hung up on sex but thats another story.

the only thing .xxx will do is give parents a way to filter it out but guess what. the parents that don't supervise what their kids are doing now, won't do it then either. another senario...dad wants to look at porn so even if they have one computer for the kids, and one for the adults, guess what happens when mom and dad aren't around?

then before you know it sites with explicit language will be filtered out and used as a tool to keep information from the public...kinda like china does. its a slippery slope. the internet was built on freedom of information and i think changing that takes away what the internet is all about, freedom.

more than anything .xxx will just make porn sites more like warez sites, hosted on foreign boxes where nobody cares about copyright violation, torrent sites will be more popular than ever and in the end if our rights aren't slowly taken away further, the kids will still get access to porn if they want it regardless.

NBDesign 05-09-2006 08:12 AM
1st off, if you believe that they are doing this to protect children... think again. It's a power trip and a way to get more money in their pockets... Kids are used as paws when politicians want to get mroe money out of you... what a .xxx is $59? $69? For what... is there special processing that .xxx does that .com does not?

Remember the whole tobacco bullshit? We will make it more expensive so kids cannot afford to smoke? Yeah... 40 million of that lawsuit money was put back into the tobacco farms, some of the money went to buy golf carts for some country club, and a lot went into lawyers pockets... and guess what... even at 4.50 a pack (here in AZ).... Kids still smoke.

Trust me... this is all political bullshit and will do nothing but HARM THIS BUSINESS!

My 2 Cents!

PS - Over the weekend, Daylight hours... prime afternoon... TNT or TNN played Leathal Weapon... the 1st one and shown Mels full nude backside.... I was like WTF? Hell, at 41, I didn't want to see that. ;)

StuartD 05-09-2006 08:15 AM
Scotty Shhhh... that was a pre-emptive shhh....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../Scottevil.jpg

shhh..

GatorB 05-09-2006 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
There is no point arguing that .xxx will stop kids getting to porn, because to method in practise would ever stop kids getting porn, none at all. However what it will do is stop the vast majority and bulk of young internet users aged ...-12. Those are the children that need to be protected from pornography and that is what the .xxx will stop.
Yeah because a 10 year old doesn't how to type .XXX on his computer.

Filtering you say? Well let just say kids are FAR more advanced than their parents in this regard under 12 can hack it. Trust me. Kids are MUCH ore tech savy today.

http://news.com.com/Kids+outsmart+We...html?tag=vidrl

chris01282 05-09-2006 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorB
Trust me. Kids are MUCH ore tech savy today.
yep, my 8 year old son does computer lessons in his school on a laptop with wireless access adsl link for email and internet

RogerV3 05-09-2006 11:17 AM
lol how can you publically support something while using a fake nick? that makes no sense to me..

scottybuzz 05-09-2006 10:52 PM
ok i made a mistake that way, by not being public

but not everykid is a techno genius just yet

I have argued my point. My point would probably be favourable to those outside the industry, the majority, as they have no money to lose.

thankyou to those who raised sensible points.

ronaldo 05-09-2006 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz
I have argued my point. My point would probably be favourable to those outside the industry, the majority, as they have no money to lose.
Those same people outside the industry are the ones trying to shut us down entirely, or are unable to properly keep their children from accessing porn so naturally they'll agree with you. They simply don't understand the big picture (or don't care) and/or the technology already available. That, or our industry is simply considered evil and shouldn't exist anyways.

Imagine the uproar from church groups if legislation was proposed to end tax free status for the church. It wouldn't be acceptable. Why? Because they'd have a vested interest, and "Money to lose".

Why should we be any different when it comes to protecting OUR interests... and remember, we ALREADY pay taxes.

Continuing to raise the "Sin" taxes, or finding new and creative ways to create new tax revenues will continue to be acceptable to those on the outside of our industry, much the same as it would be for most of us if they started taxing the church.

P.S. As I've said before, if they want to pass .xxx for profit, then just admit to it. They can't, because the support you say they have from outsiders would vanish from all but the hardliners. Lying about what .xxx will achieve gains more public sympathy and the politicians try to further their own careers by catering TO that sympathy. The REAL facts are, noone (including us here) want children subjected to porn, but those with ANY knowledge on the subject, know .xxx will never work as advertised.

Degenerate 05-09-2006 11:42 PM
Hey bud. You can't "publicly" support them under a fake nick.

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2006 11:51 PM
Why are all the pro .xxx arguments the same load of crap? Hey scotty how about you list all the .com domains you plan to drop so I can reserve them? You are dropping them right? Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

The Sultan Of Smut 05-09-2006 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Degenerate
Hey bud. You can't "publicly" support them under a fake nick.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Degenerate 05-09-2006 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RogerV3
lol how can you publically support something while using a fake nick? that makes no sense to me..
Sorry Roger, I didn't see that you posted this already.

ilbb 05-10-2006 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by After Shock Media
1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.
I agree with You...

Degenerate 05-10-2006 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ilbb
I agree with You...
You'd be retarded not to. :)

The Sultan Of Smut 05-10-2006 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by After Shock Media
1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.
Bravo :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

scottybuzz 05-11-2006 12:53 PM
ronaldo your points have been very good

polish_aristocrat 05-11-2006 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottybuzz
ronaldo your points have been very good
.xxx = defeated :thumbsup


now you can reveal us your real nick, since the disucssion is pointless from this point anyway

Devils_Child 05-11-2006 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by After Shock Media
1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.
These are strong stand points. I agree with them all. My biggest would be the domain names. Who gets them. I know people that have been in the industry 10+ years like for example thehun. Why should he move to a .xxx domain? After building his site on a .com domain, no problems for 10+ years. Everyone knows the .com name and then one day out of the blue, .xxx is in play and now the hun is asdlkfjadsldkfj.xxx cause 2540329843029 people pre ordered thehun.xxx. Its worth millions cause its thehun.com.

Or worldsex, thumbzilla, paysites, adult.com sex.com all these are big cash investments that are worth millions and with the .xxx it could be a waist of time and effort? For what a filter that wont work anyways. Cause every parrent would have to filter the .xxx domain. If they are not filtering shit now. Whats going to make them filter .xxx domains? Nothing.

Man I could go on and on and on. I know that I would be pissed to have the .xxx go into play or any other that would mean I would lose my .com domains. After 6 years working with the sites. Building them up. Getting SEO shit. Traffic and established all for nothing? My main income and everything wipped? Fuck that.

I understand the net is growing, but the .xxx would screw allot of people. I am sure if you lost your biz. cause of this, many law suites would be into play over it. I know I wouldn't just sit on my hands thinking what do i do now. Cause all my domains are registered in .xxx by some one other then myself.

I think if they wanted to make a .xxx, they should of done it at the start. Not wait 10+ years and then talk about it. Filters and kids. No matter what a site changes to, no matter what .com or .xxx, no matter if there are 100's of free software to filter just a .xxx, there will allways be kids looking at the .xxx domains. You cant stop it or change it. But this is my opinion. Parrents need to be involved. If they wont watch what they kids are doing nor filter them, then they shouldnt bitch about it when there kid is caught or get mad at it.

I also agree with After Shock Media on fees for .xxx and domains being more. Also US could tax it and I am sure thats a big part of why they want to do it.

Just my :2 cents:

asdfqwer 05-11-2006 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by After Shock Media
1. Ghettos are bad, mmkay.
2. Not enforceable world wide thus giving the US a trade disadvantage.
3. To easy for special interest groups to lobby against assorted ISPs to make .XXX access available by request only.
4. Unfair to those that registered .coms .nets and such early on in the business.
5. Who gets the .xxx the .com owner, the .net owner, the .org owner, or whomever grabs it first?
6. Engines could and may be forced to cap listing results so that .xxx only appears in pornographic keywords only. Possibly no listings at all if the default filters are left in place.
7. Possible premium yearly rate on domain registrations and renewals.
8. Possible US taxes on .xxx registrations and renewals. Think a sin tax.
9. It accomplishes nothing that a kids safe tld could or would. A kids safe tld could be made safe from day one with no back peddling or downsides, and just as easily be set for safe browsing.
10. There is no real definition on what pornography really is and therefore without a definition who is to say what belongs there and what other types of content would be slowly pushed in that direction.
Good points

scottybuzz 05-16-2006 05:50 PM
really? wont it be cropping round again?

polish_aristocrat 10-15-2006 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 9855923)
I have changed my name, because some people I do not want to fall out with because of this.
what was your previous name?

dissipate 10-15-2006 12:20 PM
You're an idiot fucking surfer, your opinion means nothing

polish_aristocrat 10-15-2006 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dissipate (Post 11081174)
You're an idiot fucking surfer, your opinion means nothing
this is an old thread, it was his first post here, looked pretty serious ( although completely wrong on the .xxx issue )

and he admitted he had a previous nickname here before....

and now he's a sig whore, but here he was jus 4 months ago complaining about people who "live on this board and can't waste 5 minutes to read his post"

something smells fishy here heh

he-fox 10-15-2006 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11081190)
this is an old thread, it was his first post here, looked pretty serious ( although completely wrong on the .xxx issue )

and he admitted he had a previous nickname here before....

and now he's a sig whore, but here he was jus 4 months ago complaining about people who "live on this board and can't waste 5 minutes to read his post"

something smells fishy here heh
ditto:thumbsup

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-15-2006 12:37 PM
no comment!

scottybuzz 10-15-2006 12:50 PM
Thanks for bringing this backup, in a way I do and I dont believe in this motion. But its been scrapped now so my opinion on it is worthless.

I will now stop being a dickhead and posting and start working on my sites.

VexXxed 10-15-2006 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 11081422)
Thanks for bringing this backup, in a way I do and I dont believe in this motion. But its been scrapped now so my opinion on it is worthless.

I will now stop being a dickhead and posting and start working on my sites.

Howcome you never countered After Shock Media's points? You've had around 5 months to ponder a response...


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