Amnesty: U.S. Torture "Widespread"

[HizAzPhun]

Fuck the Geneva Convention, we're the U.S.FUCKING.A. We do what we want...

Conventions are for pussies and fairies (and porn mongers), not patriots. 'Gay Pride Convention', 'Geneva Convention', it's all the same... and why the fuck should we agree to anything, what happens when we change our mind, then we got to answer to someone else? On that same note, fuck diplomacy and foreign policy as well. "Foreign" ... "Policy" ... what do those words have to do with AMERICA? If you believe in responsible foreign policy then you hate America. Why do you hate America?

</sarcastic rant>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12602098/

GENEVA - Torture and inhumane treatment are ?widespread? in U.S.-run prisons in Afghanistan, Iraq, Cuba and elsewhere despite Washington?s denials, Amnesty International said on Wednesday.

In a report for the United Nations? Committee against Torture, the London-based human rights group also alleged abuses within the U.S. domestic law enforcement system, including use of excessive force by police and degrading conditions of isolation for inmates in high security prisons.

?Evidence continues to emerge of widespread torture and other cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment of detainees held in U.S. custody,? Amnesty said in its 47-page report.

It said that while Washington has sought to blame abuses that have recently come to light on ?aberrant soldiers and lack of oversight?, much ill-treatment stemmed from officially sanctioned interrogation procedures and techniques.

?The U.S. government is not only failing to take steps to eradicate torture, it is actually creating a climate in which torture and other ill-treatment can flourish,? said Amnesty International USA Senior Deputy Director-General Curt Goering.

U.N. set for review
The U.N. committee, whose experts carry out periodic reviews of countries signatory to the U.N. Convention against Torture, is scheduled to begin consideration of the United States on Friday. The last U.S. review was in 2000.

It said in November it was seeking U.S. answers to questions including whether Washington operated secret detention centers abroad and whether President George W. Bush had the power to absolve anyone from criminal responsibility in torture cases.

The committee also wanted to know whether a December 2004 memorandum from the U.S. Attorney General?s office, reserving torture for ?extreme? acts of cruelty, was compatible with the global convention barring all forms of cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment.

In its own submission to the committee, published late last year, Washington justified the holding of thousands of foreign terrorism suspects in prisons abroad, including Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, on the grounds that it was fighting a war that was still not over.

?Like other wars, when they start, we do not know when they will end. Still, we may detain combatants until the end of the war,? it said.

U.S. image takes a beating
The U.S. human rights image has taken a battering abroad over a string of scandals involving the sexual and physical abuse of prisoners held by American forces in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo Bay.

In its submission, Washington did not mention alleged secret prisons.

Amnesty listed a series of incidents in recent years involving torture of detainees in U.S. custody, noting the heaviest sentence given to perpetrators was five months in jail.

This was the same punishment you could get for stealing a bicycle in the United States, it added.

?Although the U.S. government continues to assert its condemnation of torture and ill-treatment, these statements contradict what is happening in practice,? said Goering, referring to the testimony of torture victims in the report.

[Webby]

It's nothing new HizAzPhun tho may have been increased with "presidental approval" lately.

The same shit went on in Latin America and elsewhere - it's a trademark and partly what "US foreign policy" stands for and why folks just ain't trusted with 5 cents.

The ironical part is the adoption of "high moral standards" and "American values" - they end up not existing internationally and result in plenty eye-rolling. There is a severe credibility problem.

But... there are idiots everythere - the US is not the only idiot on the block.

[MrJackMeHoff]

Originally Posted by Webby

But... there are idiots everythere - the US is not the only idiot on the block.

Nope just the most hypocrytical one

[Webby]

Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff

Nope just the most hypocrytical one

Definately!

In other countries they have a "scandal" and govt members distance themselves until a reshuffle or sacking takes place.

The US just lie and flip over another page of the bible and have a sermon about "our values", "patriotism" and "freedoms".

It's kinda like the pastor who abuses kids while preaching righteousness from his pulpit.

[Splum]

[fetishblog]

Fuck Amnesty International. Bunch of cry babies.

[Webby]

Originally Posted by fetishblog

Fuck Amnesty International. Bunch of cry babies.

That's the usual intelligent response from retards - it's either organizations suddenly become "shit organizations" or everything they publish is lies - dream on!

I assume it's now OK to torture US soldiers and behead a few more? No fucking wonder other nations have a problem with the US.

What you sow, you will reap.

[ronbotx]

I bet these guys abide by the Geneva convention....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle6173.htm

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

I bet these guys abide by the Geneva convention....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle6173.htm

[Webby]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

I bet these guys abide by the Geneva convention....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle6173.htm

No.. they never did sit down at a table and sign the Geneva Convention and there is fuck all good in their actions either.

However the US did sign the Geneva Convention and annually assume an arrogance in publishing reports of human rights matters in other countries and claim to "support human rights and democracy" and form commissions dealing with human rights - but fail to abide by the treaty themselves. It's called hypocracy or "US foreign policy".

There are long-standing issues with the US on human rights - they are well-published by more credible sources than the US state department and refer to violations not only outside US territory, but within it.

[HizAzPhun]

Originally Posted by ronbotx

I bet these guys abide by the Geneva convention....


http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle6173.htm

Well if it's good enough for Al Qaeda it's good enough for the U.S.A.!!!

Why are they allowed to torture/mame/abuse prisoners of war and we're not? NOT FAIR NOT FAIR NOT FAIR.

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[Pornopat]

The saddest part is that the government of the USA does not seem to get that by becoming warcriminals themselves they are sowing seeds for next generations of terrorists...

[HizAzPhun]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

The saddest part is that the government of the USA does not seem to get that by becoming warcriminals themselves they are sowing seeds for next generations of terrorists...

Mind-boggeling isn't it?

The shortsitedness of this administration in regards to foreign policy ...

[ajrocks]

Ya big surprise.

[Mr Pheer]

War is never pretty.

[minusonebit]

[cmos]

That explain why US dont agree to hand over citizens charged for war crimes.