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vod 05-02-2006 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davecummings
Check out this one (see paragraph 4!) that just now showed up on ICANN, even though it was sent days ago and Mr Kernes DID confirm that he sent it!

Objections To .XXX TLD
To: <xxx-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Objections To .XXX TLD
From: Mark Kernes <markkernes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:46:23 -0700

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To Whom It May Concern:

I am opposed to the establishment of a .xxx top-level domain for the
following reasons:

1) Although ICANN may not be aware of it, and I'm sure is not complicit in
any such plan, the establishment of such a domain is clearly the first step
in several pro-censorship groups' plans to remove sexual and sex-related
material from the Web. Establishing the domain may seem harmless, but there
is already a move in the U.S. Congress to call for such establishment, and
then make it mandatory for all sites dealing in sexual and sex-related
materials to give up their .com, .net, etc. sites and relocate in .xxx. (Of
course, such a law by the U.S. Congress would have no effect on any
webmaster located outside the U.S.) Once the U.S.-based sites have been
forced into .xxx, it would be a simple matter for the Congress to require
all U.S.-based ISPs to filter out .xxx sites, thereby denying access to the
material to millions of adults who would wish to see it -- all in violation
of their rights under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment.

2) Leaving sexually explicit material aside, the above-planned ruling by the
U.S. Congress would undoubtedly sweep in many sites whose purpose is wholly
educational, scientific and even political, such as advice on
self-administered breast examinations, information on homosexuality, various
artistic works, etc. Sites containing photos of Michelangelo's David, for
instance, could easily be considered sexual and therefore blocked.

3) Attempting to exclude sexual material from the bulk of the Web is a bad
idea, especially since the proposed mandatory move to .xxx would affect only
U.S.-based sites. The more effective approach would be to establish a .kids
TLD, where webmasters who can certify that their material is completely safe
for minors can locate (or link to), and where parents can set their filters
to allow access only to .kids and .kids-approved sites, leaving the rest of
the Web free for adults to use as adults see fit.

4) It has been rumored that ICM Registry has already used its projected
ownership of .xxx to approach the owners of popular sexually-oriented .com
and .net URLs to offer them the same URL in .xxx at a premium price, with
the implication that if the .com URL owner refuses the deal, ICM will offer
that same URL to the .com's competitor. I'm sure ICANN would not want to be
party to such attempted extortion, if in fact such has occurred or is
planned to occur.

These are only some of the objections to the establishment of .xxx, and I
hope ICANN will take them seriously and refuse to authorize a .xxx TLD.


Mark Kernes, Sr. Ed., Adult Video News/AVN.com
9414 Eton Ave.
Chatsworth, CA
USA
818.718.5788.150
818.718.5799 (fax)



nice article, I agree with NOT allowing .xxx
I mean really, shit if ICANN wants to add .xxx they can, but leave .com's alone.

ICANN should really work on more important issues with domains. like IP's, trademarks and copyrights.

:)

polish_aristocrat 05-03-2006 02:44 AM
bumppppppppppp

Hymes 05-03-2006 08:05 AM
Baddog made a comment about making sure comments to ICANN are not poorly written or riddled with obscenities. I agree, but I wouldn't let it stop anyone from sending in a letter. You don't have to swear, but neither do you have to say much. They don't really care about your reasons anyway.

Just say that you oppose .XXX (If you do. If you don't, then just go play a video game.)

I think it is more important to list your company name, so that they can get an idea that real stakeholders are on record.

Oh, and of you have any infuence with any large companies in the industry, use it. Now. Please.

FightThisPatent 05-03-2006 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hymes
Just say that you oppose .XXX (If you do. If you don't, then just go play a video game.)

I think it is more important to list your company name, so that they can get an idea that real stakeholders are on record.

Oh, and of you have any infuence with any large companies in the industry, use it. Now. Please.
email your grammatically correct viewpoints on .XXX to:
[email protected]

ICANN will be meeting shortly to followup on their last session about .XXX

Two years ago, the public showing from the adult community was seriously lacking.. 2 years later, this .XXX thing is still going, and if the final hours expression of rejection for .XXX aren't put in, then if .XXX gets approved, you can't blame the people in adult who supported and wanted .XXX, you'll have to blame yourself for not standing up.


Fight the apathy!

baddog 05-03-2006 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
email your grammatically correct viewpoints on .XXX to:
[email protected]

ICANN will be meeting shortly to followup on their last session about .XXX

Two years ago, the public showing from the adult community was seriously lacking.. 2 years later, this .XXX thing is still going, and if the final hours expression of rejection for .XXX aren't put in, then if .XXX gets approved, you can't blame the people in adult who supported and wanted .XXX, you'll have to blame yourself for not standing up.


Fight the apathy!

For those of you bitching about Bush, did you take the time to go vote against him on 2000 (if you were even 18)? Same deal here.

If you don't write in you have no one to blame but yourself if this passes.

baddog 05-03-2006 10:59 AM
Feel free to cut and paste the following:

Dear Reader,

I am against the implementation of the .XXX tld.

Thank you for your consideration.

YOUR NAME
YOUR COMPANY NAME

FightThisPatent 05-03-2006 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
Feel free to cut and paste the following:

Dear Reader,

I am against the implementation of the .XXX tld.

Thank you for your consideration.

YOUR NAME
YOUR COMPANY NAME

The above will certainly work, but if they get alot of messages saying the same as a form letter, them may dismiss them all as just being a form, or a bot doing it.

Add your own personal comments to the template above.

Paysite programs could contact their affiliates to get involved and write their own thoughts.

You email your viewpoint on .XXX to: [email protected]

Both paysites and affiliates are affected by .XXX... .first thing will be your wallet, when you shell out $75/domain.. yes, think about how many domains you have.... and then think about the LAWS being proposed to make it mandatory.

The comments by some .XXX supporters that .kIDS is not a good idea, because it means others will have to pay for .KIDS, instead of making the "pornographers" who make more money, have to pay for .XXX

The ignorance in this thinking, is that .XXX would actually protect kids.. which it won't.. at all..... .KIDS would 100% protect kids.

So make your thoughts known.. contact your affiliates to get onboard.

email to: [email protected]

Fight the rabble-rousing!

davecummings 05-03-2006 02:18 PM
Bump for a VERY important thread!

Please post to [email protected], where thus far only these postings have been made:-(. http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

Because some Florida voters didn't let their voices be heard, we've been stuck with "w" bush --please don't let your future go up in smoke just because you didn't post against .xxx.

Dave

Major (Tom) 05-03-2006 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanno
.XXX is a stupid idea that won't work I mean people can use country code domains or servers in other juristictions or who has to use http even
its a load of BS and the wankers that proposed it just want to get rich

if .XXX goes thru they better lock down and firewall the shit out of their servers because I know there will be some angry webmasters

If this goes down, it would be majorly stupid for anyone involved with .xxx to be anywhere in public. Thats why there are so many peopel behind it that are low pro; for that reason. If I were behind it, I would have 24/7 body gurads.
People get a little crazy when a select few all of a sudden control the livleyhood of the many.

Duke

polish_aristocrat 05-04-2006 09:11 AM
:thumbsup

FetishWeb 05-04-2006 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davecummings
I heard a rumor that sending our .com sites offshore won't protect us unless we physically relocate (and become citizens of that offshore country?).


The registry can easily take action to suspend domains delivering adult content that are not on .XXX. I'd see this happening quite quickly once US law-makers get involved.

Moving to a 3rd world toilet isn't going to protect your domains if this is enforced at the registry level.

King Adam 05-04-2006 10:11 AM
Sent them an email today :)

Nikki_Licks 05-04-2006 12:07 PM
Just sent our letter in :thumbsup
Every bit helps....:winkwink:

Nikki_Licks 05-04-2006 12:42 PM
This does not work [email protected] returned
I sent my letter to this addy also [email protected]. I hope this was the right place to submitt my opinions to.

Can anyone verify this for me?? Thanks:)

baddog 05-04-2006 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks
This does not work [email protected] returned
I sent my letter to this addy also [email protected]. I hope this was the right place to submitt my opinions to.

Can anyone verify this for me?? Thanks:)
[email protected] is the proper addy, you will get a confirm email from them so you have to click the link they send or respond to the email the send

Nikki_Licks 05-05-2006 05:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
[email protected] is the proper addy, you will get a confirm email from them so you have to click the link they send or respond to the email the send
Thanks baddog :) I haven't received any confirmation email yet. I will wait until later today and if I have not heard from them then I will send it again.

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 05:52 AM
confirmation links gets sent out asap :2 cents:

Nikki_Licks 05-05-2006 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
For those of you bitching about Bush, did you take the time to go vote against him on 2000 (if you were even 18)? Same deal here.

If you don't write in you have no one to blame but yourself if this passes.
I agree....:thumbsup
I visit a few boards and have not seen any activity about this subject at all. Is everyone aware that this crap is right under their noses and don't realize it?

We all need to voice our opinion; even if it is just to say you oppose it.

Nikki_Licks 05-05-2006 09:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
confirmation links gets sent out asap :2 cents:
I still haven?t received anything and I just sent something about 15 minutes ago. Maybe they are shooting allot of them in file 13.
My response was business like and no swearing or name calling; but rather the facts of how I feel about the new proposal, so I don?t see any reason for them not accepting my statements or confirming receipt:winkwink: .

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 12:26 PM
hard to add anything to this thread - so here's just a bump for those who havent seen it yet

Nikki_Licks 05-05-2006 12:37 PM
I guess I will add that I don't believe they are even reading these. Some individuals are getting confirmations and some aren't. I happen to be one that has not got mine yet. I have sent it twice from two different addys. Yesterday and today.

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks
I guess I will add that I don't believe they are even reading these. Some individuals are getting confirmations and some aren't. I happen to be one that has not got mine yet. I have sent it twice from two different addys. Yesterday and today.
to which adress did u send it to ?

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 12:39 PM
it should go to

[email protected]

immediately after sending it you get an email asking for confirmation

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 12:40 PM
and i hope at least someone there reads at least a part of the messages

Nikki_Licks 05-05-2006 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
it should go to

[email protected]

immediately after sending it you get an email asking for confirmation
I have been sending my opinion to the email addy, but don't receive any confirmation :(

polish_aristocrat 05-05-2006 12:43 PM
I also wonder why ICANN wants to introduce this .xxx domain so much
how much money is for them in it?
if the religious groups, the porn industry and the governments ( US, Australia, EU ) oppose it, then why do they even debate it?

ICANN should admit to making a mistake and vote on it again and this time vote it down once and forever ( which would practically mean maybe 5 years silence about .xxx , after these years someone would probably come up with this idea again )

baddog 05-05-2006 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks
Thanks baddog :) I haven't received any confirmation email yet. I will wait until later today and if I have not heard from them then I will send it again.

Might check your spam box, or send from a different email address . . . it should come right away.

Zester 05-05-2006 03:43 PM
i used this: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/dotXXX/Form.html

Zester 05-05-2006 03:50 PM
please post guys

davecummings 05-05-2006 04:54 PM
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The bunch of us here and in some other threads (both here and at the other two boards) have certainly tried to wake up the GFYers to this threat, but....

I hope we don't lose our futures because of lack of participation by others.

With the meeting on May 10th, the ICANN forum might shut down BEFORE then to tally/process/summarize for the board to review.

I bet ICM has made their voices heard (cha-ching???), yet so many of our associates have done nothing to offset that:-(((

Yikes!

Dave

Zester 05-06-2006 01:25 AM
i don't think people understand what this means

davecummings 05-06-2006 11:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FightThisPatent
some updated info at: http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm

the first open public posting (from 2004.. wow, time flies):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/

highlights from back then:

Larry Walters , adult industry 1st amendment attorney, supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00003.html

Greg Dumas supports .XXX:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00056.html

Parry Asftab who supports .XXX
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00038.html
While i share her mission to protect children, she misunderstands technology and her "facts" about the deceptive marketing are really out of date. her point is something is better than nothing

My post, which points out some interesting issues:
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00053.html


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the message board where they post the recent email submissions (2006):
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

the email address to write in:
[email protected]

Companies taking a public stand against .XXX:
http://www.fightthedotxxx.com/

-------------------
Great interview by MJ with Stuart Lawley of ICM (part 1)
http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=231312

Part 2
http://www.avnonline.com//index.php?...tent_ID=231419

see last paragraph:

last paragraph:

Are any supporters now backing away?
To date we have received over a thousand emails and letters of support from adult webmasters from all over the world.

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over a thousand adult wembasters emailing him!??!!?!?!?? yea right. how about 1,000 adult webmasters posting up on the ICANN board to make a stand??

ICANN does read the posts, and they are on public record. My original post back in 2004 was one of like 3 people to post up. More people need to post to make their opinions heard.

I'll be posting up shortly.



Fight the .$$$ !
Please email a "I object to .xxx" to [email protected] ASAP since our fate might be determined at their Wed meeting.

Dave

polish_aristocrat 05-07-2006 11:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by davecummings
Please email a "I object to .xxx" to [email protected] ASAP since our fate might be determined at their Wed meeting.

Dave
:thumbsup

they may delay the decision again though

RogerV5 05-07-2006 07:22 PM
i did, i support it!

Zester 05-07-2006 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks
I have been sending my opinion to the email addy, but don't receive any confirmation :(
your spam software is probably killing it.
check the "spam" folder, or "junk" folder or whatever, if nothing works, try a free email like hotmail

NTSS 05-07-2006 11:08 PM
.xxx Will Have a Catastrophic Effect on the Entire Online Porn Industry!
 
If it goes through it may intially be on a voluntary basis. Eventually it will become mandatory. After this happens the entire online porn industry will have to be completely re-wired so to speak.

Think about it...your back links, reciprocal links, sponsor links, every gallery and free site ever submitted to your TGP or link list, not to mention your search engine positions etc. EVERYTHING...ALL GONE!


Let your voice be heard!

Send an email opposing .xxx
[email protected]

Xplicit 05-08-2006 12:02 AM
Ive sent icann seperate letters from 3 different names.

BUMP for the thread!

polish_aristocrat 05-08-2006 04:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xplicit
Ive sent icann seperate letters from 3 different names.

BUMP for the thread!
i have sent 5

all different style :winkwink:

that was at the beginning where there were only 50 letters or so

Nikki_Licks 05-08-2006 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesouth
walters is just another scumbag lawyer looking to line his pockets

If any of you hire that guy to do so much as make a phone call for you, then you are a traitor to this industry

just like he is
FUCK YOU LARRY, I know you cruise through here from time to time but not once habve you ever had the balls to answer my posts you spineless cocksucker
I wonder what that TURNCOAT Walters sent in. It would be interesting to see his version if you can read the text for all the drool on it because of the anticipation of the money he is going to fuck webmasters out of.

I am sure he will play both sides of the fence to cover his worthless ass while bilking webmasters for defense retainers. I for one will never attend any board or function to witness him spew diarrhea from his worthless pie hole, nor will I give my money to be defended by a true asshat like this.

I think we all would be well served if "ALL" webmasters boycott him and put your monies with an Attorney that will not stab you in the back while smiling in your face.

He reminds me of this BIG fucking crook I had to deal with when I first came into this industry.

I AGREE FULLY WITH mikesouth....:thumbsup ...FUCK YOU LARRY :321GFY :321GFY

seeric 05-08-2006 07:53 AM
some people jsut have no balls, but will cry when it happens.


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