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camperjohn64 · 10-22-2008, 11:53 AM

So I am looking for new ways to get links to my site. Sure this has been talked about before, but I am looking for the uncommon ways that not everyone thinks about. I'm not talking about the obvious "start an affiliate program" methods.

1 - What ways do you get traffic to your sites that are uncommon, but effective?

2 - What ways do you get links to your sites, through automated means?

camperjohn64 · 10-22-2008, 04:58 PM

So that's it? Nobody has "off the wall" ways to get traffic other than the affiliate and SEO techniques?

Maybe this was just a boring topic...oh well I tried...

Rorschach · 10-22-2008, 06:49 PM

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free sites
pic & movie galleries
pic posts
toplists
banner exhanges
link dumps
FFAs
tgp / mgp trading
thunderball / linkex etc
social news posting
social networking spam
blog pings
wiki spam
referrer spam
blog comment spam
rss spam
blog dir/ rss dir submissions
cloaked links from mainstream sites
blog templates with footer links
tube sites with embeddable clips

that should keep you busy for a while

webmasterchecks · 10-22-2008, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by joebloggs
I've written a beginners guide to link building for webmasters who want to start the process of improving the link profile of their sites.

This is not an expert's guide, so don't flame me

Top 10 Link Building Techniques

Most webmasters who are interested in promoting their sites via search engines such as Google are aware of the importance of backlinks when trying to rank for their chosen keywords.

One of the things that set Google's patented algorithm apart from the lesser search engines was their use of link popularity to guide their SERP (search engine results page) positioning. As a result, backlinks matter - you can't do without them if you want to rank well in the major search engines.

Regardless of which methods you choose to promote your site, you should be aware of the following general guidelines that can make or break a campaign.

 Black Hat Versus White Hat ? You'll hear these terms a lot. Techniques that are considered white hat are those that the search engines endorse, while black hat techniques are those that the search engines disapprove of. If you pursue a black hat strategy you run the risk of being penalised or even banned from the search engine indexes. If you're reading this article, that's not a good thing.

 PageRank ? This is a logarithmic scale from 0-10. Sites with PageRank 10 have the highest level of importance in Google's eyes while sites with a PageRank 0 have the least. Install the Google toolbar. Make a note of your site's PageRank by moving your mouse over the green bar. Ideally, you want links from pages that have a higher PageRank value than your own. A site's PageRank is determined by the number and quality of its incoming links among other factors.

 Nofollow ? This link attribute was introduced in 2005 by Google to thwart blog spam, whereby posts are made purely for the purposes of gaining backlinks. MSN and Yahoo also respect this attribute. Nofollow tells the search engine that the link isn't meant to be a vote of confidence for the target page, thus eliminating its SEO value. There's a great Firefox plugin that highlights nofollow links in pink, saving you from having to check the source code of every prospective page. Links can also bring traffic directly to your site, so if you do gain backlinks with nofollow attributes, they may still be useful, especially on high traffic/high relevancy pages.

 Relevancy ? A few years ago this mattered much less. Then, the quantity (PageRank) of incoming links was the most important factor in a site's link profile. Nowadays quality (i.e. relevancy) is at least as important. So if your site is about fishing, you'll want links from other sites about fishing, or thereabouts.

 Spam ? Any user generated approach to building backlinks can open the door to spam. Nobody likes spam, not the search engines, nor bloggers, nor users. Build your links for people, as well as for search engines and participate in the communities you're targeting for promotion. This is crucial if you're serious about your reputation.

 Automation ? Keep it to a minimum. This is a hard subject to generalise about, since automation could refer to sophisticated black hat php techniques or the use of relatively innocuous link management software.

 Anchor Text ? This is the most important thing to remember when link building. Anchor text is the text that is used to visually represent a hyperlink on a webpage. Search engine spiders use the anchor text of links to help determine the subject matter (and thus the keywords ) of the target page. Therefore, you want to use keywords that you're trying to rank for in the links and, crucially, make sure that the keywords are on the page that you're linking to.

It also helps to have keywords in your domain name, so that when someone links to you (without your control) using, e.g. yourkeywords.com, the search engine will use the url as the default anchor text. This is most applicable to viral/linkbait approaches but has value whenever you receive an unoptimized backlink from a third party.

1) Link Exchange

What is it? You contact another webmaster proposing that you link to them and that they link to you.

Hat Colour: Dark Grey

Pros: Large volume of links can be acquired relatively quickly. Anchor text can be arranged to suit. Exchanging links can open the door to wider affiliations between sites and has the effect of shaping web communities.

Cons: Google cracked down on reciprocal links a long time ago, so if the links are traded from site A to Site B without any triangulation, the value of the respective links goes down a great deal.

Should you do it? Use a three way liking structure if one of the potential link partners has more than one indexed domain. This makes it less likely that Google will discount the exchange (as it's not a reciprocal link in the classic sense) but don't expect miracles from link trades, even if a lot of PageRank is involved. Web sites with fully automated link exchange processes are close to the black hat border and so are probably not suitable for sites that have a reputation to uphold.

2) Buying Links

What is it? You contact a Webmaster directly or through a link rental network and offer money in exchange for (generally high PageRank) links from their site.

Hat Colour: Grey to black.

Pros: The advantages are potentially greater than those of exchanged links (due to their non ? reciprocal nature). Many agencies (no names) use this method to quickly buy powerful backlinks for their clients.

Debate in the industry seems to reveal a consensus that there are cases where paid links are legitimate, if they're serving a form of display advertising in their own right.

Cons: Matt Cutts, Google's anti search engine spam guru, has written a lot about the subject and has stated that paid links are an unacceptable means of acquiring links. Several high profile sites have been penalised for selling links by having their PageRank taken away so that their outgoing links have no value, while several have even been de-listed completely from the index.

This is easily the most controversial and potentially confusing item in the list.

Should you do it? Possibly, if you're careful. Make sure that the link is on a relevant page and in a location that won't appear spammy if checked manually.

By Joe Lewis

Supz · 10-22-2008, 08:13 PM

If you want to get good quality link trades and not have to worry about people dropping your links or not getting listed check out thunder-ball dot net. signup add your domains, and search by niche for link trades.

Eriic · 10-22-2008, 08:18 PM

Pay everyone $19.00 per month per link and lots of people would love to link to you.

camperjohn64 · 10-22-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach

hmmm

hardlinks
free sites
pic & movie galleries
pic posts
toplists
banner exhanges
link dumps
FFAs
tgp / mgp trading
thunderball / linkex etc
social news posting
social networking spam
blog pings
wiki spam
referrer spam
blog comment spam
rss spam
blog dir/ rss dir submissions
cloaked links from mainstream sites
blog templates with footer links
tube sites with embeddable clips

that should keep you busy for a while

See this is what I was looking for. "blog templates with footer links" is really a good idea.

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papill0n · 10-23-2008, 01:34 AM

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Corleone · 10-23-2008, 03:40 AM

not a bad thread.. giving me some ideas ;)

camperjohn64 · 10-23-2008, 03:44 AM

Well here is what I've been doing and its stupid but it's working. I have about 5000 videos that are mainstream. I have been posting them on youtube, with a link to my site that says "More like this".

People are actually clcking on it and coming. Now it's not alot, but, I'm not looking for the fast and easy traffic building system, I am looking for a consistant, slowly building of lots and lots of traffic. Youtube is pretty consistant.

Buying traffic is easy and you can get lots of traffic really fast, but it stops when you run out of money. My youtube posts are getting traffic day after day.

What other ideas...?

chupachups · 10-23-2008, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach

hmmm

hardlinks
free sites
pic & movie galleries
pic posts
toplists
banner exhanges
link dumps
FFAs
tgp / mgp trading
thunderball / linkex etc
social news posting
social networking spam
blog pings
wiki spam
referrer spam
blog comment spam
rss spam
blog dir/ rss dir submissions
cloaked links from mainstream sites
blog templates with footer links
tube sites with embeddable clips

that should keep you busy for a while

Really good post Rorschach!

10-22-2008, 11:53 AM	#1
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	Good ways to get links to your site So I am looking for new ways to get links to my site. Sure this has been talked about before, but I am looking for the uncommon ways that not everyone thinks about. I'm not talking about the obvious "start an affiliate program" methods. 1 - What ways do you get traffic to your sites that are uncommon, but effective? 2 - What ways do you get links to your sites, through automated means? __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

10-22-2008, 04:58 PM	#2
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	So that's it? Nobody has "off the wall" ways to get traffic other than the affiliate and SEO techniques? Maybe this was just a boring topic...oh well I tried... __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

10-22-2008, 07:04 PM	#4
webmasterchecks Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,685	Originally Posted by joebloggs I've written a beginners guide to link building for webmasters who want to start the process of improving the link profile of their sites. This is not an expert's guide, so don't flame me Top 10 Link Building Techniques Most webmasters who are interested in promoting their sites via search engines such as Google are aware of the importance of backlinks when trying to rank for their chosen keywords. One of the things that set Google's patented algorithm apart from the lesser search engines was their use of link popularity to guide their SERP (search engine results page) positioning. As a result, backlinks matter - you can't do without them if you want to rank well in the major search engines. Regardless of which methods you choose to promote your site, you should be aware of the following general guidelines that can make or break a campaign.  Black Hat Versus White Hat ? You'll hear these terms a lot. Techniques that are considered white hat are those that the search engines endorse, while black hat techniques are those that the search engines disapprove of. If you pursue a black hat strategy you run the risk of being penalised or even banned from the search engine indexes. If you're reading this article, that's not a good thing.  PageRank ? This is a logarithmic scale from 0-10. Sites with PageRank 10 have the highest level of importance in Google's eyes while sites with a PageRank 0 have the least. Install the Google toolbar. Make a note of your site's PageRank by moving your mouse over the green bar. Ideally, you want links from pages that have a higher PageRank value than your own. A site's PageRank is determined by the number and quality of its incoming links among other factors.  Nofollow ? This link attribute was introduced in 2005 by Google to thwart blog spam, whereby posts are made purely for the purposes of gaining backlinks. MSN and Yahoo also respect this attribute. Nofollow tells the search engine that the link isn't meant to be a vote of confidence for the target page, thus eliminating its SEO value. There's a great Firefox plugin that highlights nofollow links in pink, saving you from having to check the source code of every prospective page. Links can also bring traffic directly to your site, so if you do gain backlinks with nofollow attributes, they may still be useful, especially on high traffic/high relevancy pages.  Relevancy ? A few years ago this mattered much less. Then, the quantity (PageRank) of incoming links was the most important factor in a site's link profile. Nowadays quality (i.e. relevancy) is at least as important. So if your site is about fishing, you'll want links from other sites about fishing, or thereabouts.  Spam ? Any user generated approach to building backlinks can open the door to spam. Nobody likes spam, not the search engines, nor bloggers, nor users. Build your links for people, as well as for search engines and participate in the communities you're targeting for promotion. This is crucial if you're serious about your reputation.  Automation ? Keep it to a minimum. This is a hard subject to generalise about, since automation could refer to sophisticated black hat php techniques or the use of relatively innocuous link management software.  Anchor Text ? This is the most important thing to remember when link building. Anchor text is the text that is used to visually represent a hyperlink on a webpage. Search engine spiders use the anchor text of links to help determine the subject matter (and thus the keywords ) of the target page. Therefore, you want to use keywords that you're trying to rank for in the links and, crucially, make sure that the keywords are on the page that you're linking to. It also helps to have keywords in your domain name, so that when someone links to you (without your control) using, e.g. yourkeywords.com, the search engine will use the url as the default anchor text. This is most applicable to viral/linkbait approaches but has value whenever you receive an unoptimized backlink from a third party. 1) Link Exchange What is it? You contact another webmaster proposing that you link to them and that they link to you. Hat Colour: Dark Grey Pros: Large volume of links can be acquired relatively quickly. Anchor text can be arranged to suit. Exchanging links can open the door to wider affiliations between sites and has the effect of shaping web communities. Cons: Google cracked down on reciprocal links a long time ago, so if the links are traded from site A to Site B without any triangulation, the value of the respective links goes down a great deal. Should you do it? Use a three way liking structure if one of the potential link partners has more than one indexed domain. This makes it less likely that Google will discount the exchange (as it's not a reciprocal link in the classic sense) but don't expect miracles from link trades, even if a lot of PageRank is involved. Web sites with fully automated link exchange processes are close to the black hat border and so are probably not suitable for sites that have a reputation to uphold. 2) Buying Links What is it? You contact a Webmaster directly or through a link rental network and offer money in exchange for (generally high PageRank) links from their site. Hat Colour: Grey to black. Pros: The advantages are potentially greater than those of exchanged links (due to their non ? reciprocal nature). Many agencies (no names) use this method to quickly buy powerful backlinks for their clients. Debate in the industry seems to reveal a consensus that there are cases where paid links are legitimate, if they're serving a form of display advertising in their own right. Cons: Matt Cutts, Google's anti search engine spam guru, has written a lot about the subject and has stated that paid links are an unacceptable means of acquiring links. Several high profile sites have been penalised for selling links by having their PageRank taken away so that their outgoing links have no value, while several have even been de-listed completely from the index. This is easily the most controversial and potentially confusing item in the list. Should you do it? Possibly, if you're careful. Make sure that the link is on a relevant page and in a location that won't appear spammy if checked manually. By Joe Lewis __________________ Webmasterchecks Affiliate Payments - fully compatible with nats/mpa3

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10-23-2008, 03:44 AM	#11
camperjohn64 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,531	Well here is what I've been doing and its stupid but it's working. I have about 5000 videos that are mainstream. I have been posting them on youtube, with a link to my site that says "More like this". People are actually clcking on it and coming. Now it's not alot, but, I'm not looking for the fast and easy traffic building system, I am looking for a consistant, slowly building of lots and lots of traffic. Youtube is pretty consistant. Buying traffic is easy and you can get lots of traffic really fast, but it stops when you run out of money. My youtube posts are getting traffic day after day. What other ideas...? __________________ www.gimmiegirlproductions.com

10-22-2008, 06:49 PM	#3
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	hmmm hardlinks free sites pic & movie galleries pic posts toplists banner exhanges link dumps FFAs tgp / mgp trading thunderball / linkex etc social news posting social networking spam blog pings wiki spam referrer spam blog comment spam rss spam blog dir/ rss dir submissions cloaked links from mainstream sites blog templates with footer links tube sites with embeddable clips that should keep you busy for a while

10-22-2008, 08:13 PM	#5
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,057	If you want to get good quality link trades and not have to worry about people dropping your links or not getting listed check out thunder-ball dot net. signup add your domains, and search by niche for link trades.

10-22-2008, 08:18 PM	#6
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10-23-2008, 01:34 AM	#9
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10-23-2008, 03:40 AM	#10
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	not a bad thread.. giving me some ideas ;)