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pocketkangaroo 04-27-2006 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Would you STFU and go piss on SOS's thread instead?

You're wrong. End of story.

Sorry if the actual law bothers you. If you felt that his actions were defamatory, you would contact the owners of GFY.com to have it removed. If it wasn't removed, you'd send a C & D. Then you would go after them. The defamatory content is on their site and their servers. This has been established in many cases already in the US.

However, even if you could sue SOS for the damages and GFY was not liable for their own site, you would need GFY to provide proof it was him that posted. This would require IP checks, etc. I would have your lawyer do that first before filing a suit as any court in the country is going to ask you to prove he posted it.

You also have to prove that damages occured by the statements that were made. According to YOU, they didn't:

https://gfy.com/9592200-post13.html

Unless something has changed in the past 3 and a half weeks, you'd have a hard time explaining that.

Finally, the copyright issue is again with GFY, not SOS. I'd advice you to point your lawyer in the direction of the recent rulings between Perfect 10 and Google.

However, maybe Canadian law is totally different. But unless your suit completely spits in the face of past legal precedent, you'll be laughed out of court (and most lawyer's offices).

AaronM 04-27-2006 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
haha I love it, my sentiments exactly.

I dunno why, I see this shit and I'm reminded of High school bullies for some reason


Probably because you just got home from school a few hours ago.

Do your homework and go to bed. Us adults have business to discuss.

BusterBunny 04-27-2006 09:53 PM

i'd still hit it

Alky 04-27-2006 09:53 PM

how do you prove who is actually posting under sonofsam's username?

NoWhErE 04-27-2006 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Probably because you just got home from school a few hours ago.

Do your homework and go to bed. Us adults have business to discuss.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Took you long enough to answer. Did you forget to breathe again and pass out?

Spudstr 04-27-2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Look man...If you aren't bright enough to have followed all of the facts and seen through SOS's bullshit by now then there is no way to show you the light.

It's none of your business...If you can provide me with his address then I will handle my business and thank you for the information, if not then please stop wasting my time.

Whether I have any legal ground to stand on or not should not be a concern for any of you. If you people hate me so much then how about if you provide me with his addy and then let me piss away my money on legal fees?

i know SOS, why would he put up bullshit? its simple. he paid fora product turned out to be not in full. that wasn't clear on the funds. you kept the money instead of refunding him. and gave no content. if anything i'd be a judge would probably ask you questions instead of going after him once he hears the whole story.

All in all posting on a forum about this all the time is crying out for attention. Are you that depressed/ill that you have to keep this up?

jonesy 04-27-2006 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Sorry if the actual law bothers you. If you felt that his actions were defamatory, you would contact the owners of GFY.com to have it removed. If it wasn't removed, you'd send a C & D. Then you would go after them. The defamatory content is on their site and their servers. This has been established in many cases already in the US.

However, even if you could sue SOS for the damages and GFY was not liable for their own site, you would need GFY to provide proof it was him that posted. This would require IP checks, etc. I would have your lawyer do that first before filing a suit as any court in the country is going to ask you to prove he posted it.

You also have to prove that damages occured by the statements that were made. According to YOU, they didn't:

https://gfy.com/9592200-post13.html

Unless something has changed in the past 3 and a half weeks, you'd have a hard time explaining that.

Finally, the copyright issue is again with GFY, not SOS. I'd advice you to point your lawyer in the direction of the recent rulings between Perfect 10 and Google.

However, maybe Canadian law is totally different. But unless your suit completely spits in the face of past legal precedent, you'll be laughed out of court (and most lawyer's offices).

the diarrhea your spweing is deafining.

pocketkangaroo 04-27-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
the diarrhea your spweing is deafining.

Please tell me what was not correct in that statement.

sonofsam 04-27-2006 10:10 PM

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https://gfy.com/9592200-post13.html
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https://gfy.com/9592200-post13.html
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AaronM 04-27-2006 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Took you long enough to answer. Did you forget to breathe again and pass out?


No, I was on a phone call with somebody else who saw this thread and is also interested in suing him.

Now I am ICQing with yet another person who is providing me with various other info....

Sorry, this is not play time. The world does not revolve around responding to you on GFY.

ricks 04-27-2006 10:18 PM

I don't understand. A known scammer like AaronM can sue somebody for just pointing out the obvious?

jonesy 04-27-2006 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
Please tell me what was not correct in that statement.

not tonight im high on percocets from a root canal i had.

but i will point out one your first paragraph - ive followed numerous cases where people have sued and won in libel cases regarding public forums ect

if this threads still up friday ill post some exapmles

you do the same of your claim

also aaron may have said that sos's claims arent hurting his biz but all it would take would be one post saying they wouldnt buy from aaron because of the SOS situation, so that falls through your wet bag ... as well as comparing google and perfect 10 to sos and aaron

CDSmith 04-27-2006 10:19 PM

Aaron.... didn't you send sammy a conten disk last year? I thought you did.

If so, what address did you send it to?

NoWhErE 04-27-2006 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Sorry, this is not play time. The world does not revolve around responding to you on GFY.


You can't be serious? That would mean my guidance counselor lied to me! This cannot be!

Noooo


Nooooooooo


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr
i know SOS, why would he put up bullshit? its simple. he paid fora product turned out to be not in full. that wasn't clear on the funds. you kept the money instead of refunding him. and gave no content. if anything i'd be a judge would probably ask you questions instead of going after him once he hears the whole story.

Looks to me like your friend has lied to you and left out a lot of the story. i can't blame you for taking his side based on this.

This thread seems to have served it's purpose now. I have an address that I believe is his so I'm done here.

If anybody else can verify this addy then I would appreciate it.

Thank you.

LexiLexxx 04-27-2006 10:22 PM

Slander woudl be good, and I seen this comming.

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith
Aaron.... didn't you send sammy a conten disk last year? I thought you did.

If so, what address did you send it to?


He had me send it to his Mother's house and I don't have record of that addy any longer.


Seems that sonofsam is a fitting name for him because some of the info I just received includes a man, possibly his father, and his name is Samual Bani.

Kinda clever, actually. :1orglaugh

ricks 04-27-2006 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM


Seems that sonofsam is a fitting name for him because some of the info I just received includes a man, possibly his father, and his name is Samual Bani.

Isn't it against the rules to be posting personal info here?

You are such an asshole AaronM, anybody who deals with you is an idiot.:helpme

onlineriches 04-27-2006 10:26 PM

SOS, throw your HD into a lake and run for the hills :1orglaugh

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Isn't it against the rules to be posting personal info here?

You are such an asshole AaronM, anybody who deals with you is an idiot.:helpme


Go away, cockroach.

ricks 04-27-2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Go away, cockroach.

Stop scamming, asshole.

s2kcord 04-27-2006 10:29 PM

So these kinds of threads dont affect your business?

iwantchixx 04-27-2006 10:30 PM

so you take his money, relinquish any rights to use the content and now sue him over words on a message board?

You sound like a real class act Aaron.

You must be broke again and need money.

You're lucky Sam is too nice of a guy because anyone else would fuck you up beyond medical repair for that kind of shit.

pocketkangaroo 04-27-2006 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
not tonight im high on percocets from a root canal i had.

but i will point out one your first paragraph - ive followed numerous cases where people have sued and won in libel cases regarding public forums ect

if this threads still up friday ill post some exapmles

you do the same of your claim

also aaron may have said that sos's claims arent hurting his biz but all it would take would be one post saying they wouldnt buy from aaron because of the SOS situation, so thats falls through your wet bag ...

And they all contacted the forum or blog and demanded it be removed first. The lawsuit only took place after the forum or blog did not remove the defamatory content in a swift manner.

In those cases they also proved who posted the defamatory content. You can't go in and say "well everyone on GFY knows SonofSam is So and So". You have to proof it through various means. Without that, all SOS would need to do is say "I didn't post it" and the case is done. Otherwise he could sue Bill Gates and say it was him posting under SonOfSam.

And the post claiming it didn't hurt business is actually pretty damning. He would have to state he lied in that post. It's like getting in a car accident and bragging to friends how great you feel, then going to court a month later saying how hurt you are.

Either way, I'm just saying he has a much better chance of going after GFY than he does SOS. The first thing a good defense lawyer will ask is why no steps were made to delete the defamatory comments if it was so bad for business.

No hard feelings in the argument. Feel free to hit me up if you want to discuss cases and so forth. I've had too much experience with this stuff and am always up for looking through other cases and such.

onlineriches 04-27-2006 10:30 PM

AaronM looks like that fat kid everyone picked on in school who never fought back. Now it would appear he now deals with it by sueing everyone he can. :1orglaugh

What a joke.

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Stop scamming, asshole.


I've never scammed anybody in my life.

Troll elsewhere.

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlineriches
AaronM looks like that fat kid everyone picked on in school who never fought back. Now it would appear he now deals with it by sueing everyone he can. :1orglaugh

What a joke.


Hey newbie.....Since you know that I sue everyone....Please show proof of me suing 3 people.

Go ahead.....I'm sure you wouldn't toss such accusations around without proof...would you?

ricks 04-27-2006 10:34 PM

:321GFY
Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
I've never scammed anybody in my life.

Troll elsewhere.

You scammed sonofsam and bragged about it on GFY you fucking tool.

onlineriches 04-27-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Hey newbie.....Since you know that I sue everyone....Please show proof of me suing 3 people.

Go ahead.....I'm sure you wouldn't toss such accusations around without proof...would you?

Is that not what I JUST did? :winkwink:

jonesy 04-27-2006 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
And they all contacted the forum or blog and demanded it be removed first. The lawsuit only took place after the forum or blog did not remove the defamatory content in a swift manner.

In those cases they also proved who posted the defamatory content. You can't go in and say "well everyone on GFY knows SonofSam is So and So". You have to proof it through various means. Without that, all SOS would need to do is say "I didn't post it" and the case is done. Otherwise he could sue Bill Gates and say it was him posting under SonOfSam.

And the post claiming it didn't hurt business is actually pretty damning. He would have to state he lied in that post. It's like getting in a car accident and bragging to friends how great you feel, then going to court a month later saying how hurt you are.

Either way, I'm just saying he has a much better chance of going after GFY than he does SOS. The first thing a good defense lawyer will ask is why no steps were made to delete the defamatory comments if it was so bad for business.

No hard feelings in the argument. Feel free to hit me up if you want to discuss cases and so forth. I've had too much experience with this stuff and am always up for looking through other cases and such.

hard feelings? nah im as soft as cupid right now :1orglaugh
im on cloud 9 baby gettin a good laugh from all this
take it easy man

if this did go down id love to be in that court room
now THAT would be fucking funny

pocketkangaroo 04-27-2006 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
hard feelings? nah im as soft as cupid right now :1orglaugh
im on cloud 9 baby gettin a good laugh from all this
take it easy man

if this did go down id love to be in that court room
now THAT would be fucking funny

2 vicodins after getting back from the United Center watching the Bulls kick ass in a semi-drunken stooper. It's going good here too. :thumbsup

Someone should literally setup a mock courtroom and hire an impartial judge to hear the cases and broadcast a feed. Sponsors would be lining up at the door.

AaronM 04-27-2006 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
:321GFY

You scammed sonofsam and bragged about it on GFY you fucking tool.


Gee, I wonder what the world looks like through the eyes of somebody who doesn't understand sarcasm?

Donny 04-27-2006 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
:321GFY

You scammed sonofsam and bragged about it on GFY you fucking tool.

You're not that dense. You already know Aaron was not literally saying he scammed SOS. He was being funny and sarcastic, not literal.

jonesy 04-27-2006 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
2 vicodins after getting back from the United Center watching the Bulls kick ass in a semi-drunken stooper. It's going good here too. :thumbsup

Someone should literally setup a mock courtroom and hire an impartial judge to hear the cases and broadcast a feed. Sponsors would be lining up at the door.

dude why you gotta fuck with me and shit on the heat like that!
:1orglaugh

ricks 04-27-2006 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
You're not that dense. You already know Aaron was not literally saying he scammed SOS. He was being funny and sarcastic, not literal.

What is so funny about scamming SOS? What is so funny about taking somebody's money and providing nothing in return and then laughing and posting about it later on a message board?:321GFY

ricks 04-27-2006 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM
Gee, I wonder what the world looks like through the eyes of somebody who doesn't understand sarcasm?

I don't understand why you think it is funny to scam somebody and laugh about it later? Wow, you are cool Mr. Sarcasm.:321GFY

Donny 04-27-2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
What is so funny about scamming SOS? What is so funny about taking somebody's money and providing nothing in return and then laughing and posting about it later on a message board?:321GFY


To each their own, I guess. I don't get how a real man can sit behind an anonymous nickname and take jabs at people. No spine, I guess. No balls.

pocketkangaroo 04-27-2006 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
dude why you gotta fuck with me and shit on the heat like that!
:1orglaugh

I need to bask in the glory of this win till Sunday when a mad Shaq starts dunking on our faces again. :(

ricks 04-27-2006 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
To each their own, I guess. I don't get how a real man can sit behind an anonymous nickname and take jabs at people. No spine, I guess. No balls.

Yep, anonymous nickname like 'Donny' and 'AaronM'. This is a message board you twat, who isn't using an anymous nickname. Retard.:1orglaugh

jonesy 04-27-2006 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo
I need to bask in the glory of this win till Sunday when a mad Shaq starts dunking on our faces again. :(

yup :1orglaugh

NoWhErE 04-27-2006 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Yep, anonymous nickname like 'Donny' and 'AaronM'. This is a message board you twat, who isn't using an anymous nickname. Retard.:1orglaugh


It pains me to say my mother chose my name... NoWhErE.

I have no family name because I have no family. They all died in a tragic emu accident.

Donny 04-27-2006 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Yep, anonymous nickname like 'Donny' and 'AaronM'. This is a message board you twat, who isn't using an anymous nickname. Retard.:1orglaugh

Hey, dumb ass, my legal full first name happens to be "Donny". And both my name and Aaron's have been posted here. We hide from nobody.

ricks 04-27-2006 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
Hey, dumb ass, my legal full first name happens to be "Donny". And both my name and Aaron's have been posted here. We hide from nobody.

Ok tool, so what is your's and Aaron's real names?

Belinda 04-27-2006 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricks
Ok tool, so what is your's and Aaron's real names?

His name is Donny... I have seen his license.

uno 04-27-2006 11:43 PM

Seriously aaron, I love you, but drop this fucking bullshit. You've both handled this the wrong way, but enough. Let the fucking kid go. You are a bigger person than that to do all you have done to this poor fucking kid. Just drop it and be the bigger man. You got your money regardless and he got shit. Isn't that satisfaction enough for you. At the very least come to some sort of amicable resolution. I'd be happy to mediate for it.

The Sultan Of Smut 04-27-2006 11:44 PM

You guys still chat on icq? Do you exchange nude pics as well?

Donny 04-27-2006 11:45 PM

Ricks, do you use wikipedia very often? Damn, I love that site.

jonesy 04-27-2006 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
We hide from nobody.

http://www.jonesy.info/images/donnymakeup.jpg

i dont give a fuck what anyone says

i would not fuck with this guy

Donny 04-27-2006 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy
http://www.jonesy.info/images/donnymakeup.jpg

i dont give a fuck what anyone says

i would not fuck with this guy


Damn right! :)

sonofsam 04-27-2006 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny
Hey, dumb ass, my legal full first name happens to be "Donny". And both my name and Aaron's have been posted here. We hide from nobody.

what are you talking about?

when i posted aarons real name, he has rochard remove it


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