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woj 04-28-2006 10:54 PM

50 reasons not to see it...

pr0 04-28-2006 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash
So have you seen it? Never seen a movie critique based on not seeing the movie. If you see it then still think its a pile of shit, so be it. Also, even with all the witnesses and known facts of the movies I listed, the directors still chose to be controversial and infuse their own speculative version of events. I could name 50 other notable movies where this has also occurred, its called Hollywood, no need to get all riled up over nothing.

Ok then, for the sake of my family here on GFY, i'll watch the movie.

But be prepared for me to pick it apart & bring tears to some eyes :winkwink:

And just for the record...the only peice of shit in the same class that was even halfway enjoyable would be "The perfect storm".

stickyfingerz 04-28-2006 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
Ok then, for the sake of my family here on GFY, i'll watch the movie.

But be prepared for me to pick it apart & bring tears to some eyes :winkwink:

And just for the record...the only peice of shit in the same class that was even halfway enjoyable would be "The perfect storm".

Just trying to figure out why you came on bashing it without ever seeing the movie.....

pr0 04-28-2006 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Just trying to figure out why you came on bashing it without ever seeing the movie.....

I can smell a p.o.s. from a mile away.

stickyfingerz 04-28-2006 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
I can smell a p.o.s. from a mile away.

You may want to take a shower. Just an fyi. That smell aint a mile away. :winkwink:

lazycash 04-28-2006 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
Ok then, for the sake of my family here on GFY, i'll watch the movie.

But be prepared for me to pick it apart & bring tears to some eyes :winkwink:

And just for the record...the only peice of shit in the same class that was even halfway enjoyable would be "The perfect storm".

Fair enough, if you see it and think it was horrible and pure exploitation then I can live with that. Although after reading your rant its hard to believe you could possibly go into the movie from an ojective standpoint.

pr0 04-28-2006 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash
Fair enough, if you see it and think it was horrible and pure exploitation then I can live with that. Although after reading your rant its hard to believe you could possibly go into the movie from an ojective standpoint.

I'll go into completely objectively. As i said...i enjoyed one such film, "perfect storm", infact i watched it yesterday night.

stev0 04-28-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
Just a bump to remind people NOT to see this huge pile of steaming shit

lol... have you even seen it yet?? or is this all speculation...?

stev0 04-28-2006 11:56 PM

nm,i should start reading the second page of these threads.. haha

NewbieNudes 04-29-2006 02:59 AM

Want to see what really happened then look at this.

http://www.loosechange911.com/flight93.htm

Cellphones DONT work at 500mph and 30,000 feet.

chshkt 04-29-2006 03:29 AM

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chshkt 04-29-2006 03:53 AM

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pussyluver 04-29-2006 03:57 AM

I saw the movie yesterday afternoon. Very disappointed, don't waste your money. A ton of inaccuracy as far as I can tell.

There seemed to be an attempt at a political statement about the military being inept and communication with the executive branch impossible. Kinda went over the top on that, no matter what you believe or your political point of view.

Thought I would be all choked up about having to relive that part of US history. The film did not invoke a tear.

To the loved ones of United 93 victims, my deepest sympathies. To the makers and producers of this film :321GFY. A refund would not be out of the question. People just walked out of the film without any emotion on their faces... Well other than I just blew $8 for the ticket. Maybe the popcorn and drinks were ok?

:2 cents:

Choppa 04-29-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0
Pure speculative bullshit. The only part they could even hope to get right is the dudes getting on the plane....the plane taking off, & the descent into the ground.

So hey, lets base an entire movie (90+ mins) on what "might" or "might not" have happened on a plane....and make money off these retards that probably bought the 9-11 alan jackson cd singles for their ipod.


Seriously, if you go see this giant load of dramatic soap opera SHIT, you should be ashamed of yourself. :2 cents:

And i hope the director of the films gets a real bad case of herps


yeah they always have to make it into a hollywood melodrama...whatever happended on that ill fated flight the truth if known would have been the better way to pursue the movie...ps Towlie you rock :pimp

pr0 04-29-2006 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pussyluver
I saw the movie yesterday afternoon. Very disappointed, don't waste your money. A ton of inaccuracy as far as I can tell.

There seemed to be an attempt at a political statement about the military being inept and communication with the executive branch impossible. Kinda went over the top on that, no matter what you believe or your political point of view.

Thought I would be all choked up about having to relive that part of US history. The film did not invoke a tear.

To the loved ones of United 93 victims, my deepest sympathies. To the makers and producers of this film :321GFY. A refund would not be out of the question. People just walked out of the film without any emotion on their faces... Well other than I just blew $8 for the ticket. Maybe the popcorn and drinks were ok?

:2 cents:

HERE WE GO PEOPLE REVIEW #1 is in!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Splum 04-29-2006 12:17 PM

To the naysayers saying this story is inaccurate they have the ACTUAL FLIGHT RECORDER FROM FLIGHT 93 (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...61hijack1.html) which chronicles the passengers attempt to smash into the cockpit and CELLPHONES CAN WORK AT 30,000 FEET (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...air-cell_x.htm) and some of the phone calls were from IN-FLIGHT PHONES

Obviously some of the filler in the middle of this movie is probably not accurate to a tee but I find it very disturbing that such an event with as much evidence as this event has is being disputed by some really strange people on this board. I am pretty confident most people in this business are not that insane and I find the lack of support for this movie and these events on this board quite shameful. This REALLY happened people and there is a ton of evidence to prove it happened, independent people around the country were contacted by people on this flight. I dont know what some of these people in this threads agenda is but it is pretty sickening.
The families of the victims want this movie to be seen
(http://www.apple.com/trailers/univer...ook_large.html)

Those people were heroes stop fucking pissing on their memory by claiming you know better than their own family. Some of you people make me fucking disgusted.

Splum 04-29-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyluver
Well other than I just blew $8 for the ticket. Maybe the popcorn and drinks were ok? :2 cents:

Thanks for your donation to the Flight 93 Memorial fund (http://www.nasites.com/cmprojects/pr...ment_FINAL.pdf)

pr0 04-29-2006 01:26 PM

"I find the lack of support for this movie and these events on this board quite shameful."

Cashing in on a tragedy is 2x as bad.

p1mpdogg 04-29-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp
I WONT be seeing that.


you fucker, you probbly planned it! cory is an a-rab!!!!!!

Screaming 04-29-2006 05:19 PM

Im going to see it.

Young 04-29-2006 05:27 PM

I saw the movie. 70% of the movie revolves around the ATC's, FAA, and NORAD command centers. All of which are documented and have recordings to go off of.

The other 30% which is based on United 93 takes very little creative liberty. Almost every scene after hijacking is based on telephone calls from the people on the plane.

So yes...this thread is a worthless pile of shit.

Sexxxy Sites 04-29-2006 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
Pure speculative bullshit. The only part they could even hope to get right is the dudes getting on the plane....the plane taking off, & the descent into the ground.

So hey, lets base an entire movie (90+ mins) on what "might" or "might not" have happened on a plane....and make money off these retards that probably bought the 9-11 alan jackson cd singles for their ipod.


Seriously, if you go see this giant load of dramatic soap opera SHIT, you should be ashamed of yourself. :2 cents:

And i hope the director of the films gets a real bad case of herps

Pretty much applicable to any movie made about any historical event so I am I to assume that you do not watch any movies about any historical event?

Scootermuze 04-29-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
I flew on several planes just before 9-11.....& tried to use my cellphone about 100x, and it never EVER worked. Thats why they had an expensive ass phone you could pay to use.

But i guess magically 30 people used their cellphone that day........riiiight

My cellphone consipiracy aside....its still a pretty stupid film idea....point blank

It's not a conspiracy...

The plane was logged at an altitude of 40k ft. when the calls started coming in..

At&t engineers and commerical pilots have said that cell phones are pretty much worthless once a plane leaves the runway.. and at best, a max of 10k ft. ..
But supposedly 13 calls made it to their destination... And I'm sure the hijackers were ok with all these folks making phone calls.. :)

But there are those in here that know so much more than the engineers and pilots.. So it'll continue to be a conspiracy theory... :)

Sexxxy Sites 04-29-2006 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
"I find the lack of support for this movie and these events on this board quite shameful."

Cashing in on a tragedy is 2x as bad.

Am I to take it that you do not view movies about historical events whose subject line is that of tradgedy ie. war movies in historical times or modern times?

Sexxxy Sites 04-29-2006 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
It's not a conspiracy...

The plane was logged at an altitude of 40k ft. when the calls started coming in..

At&t engineers and commerical pilots have said that cell phones are pretty much worthless once a plane leaves the runway.. and at best, a max of 10k ft. ..
But supposedly 13 calls made it to their destination... And I'm sure the hijackers were ok with all these folks making phone calls.. :)

But there are those in here that know so much more than the engineers and pilots.. So it'll continue to be a conspiracy theory... :)

There are those that know so much more than the "engineers and pilots", namely those family members that received calls from flight 93. A successful call being made via cell phone is dependent upon altitude and location. I have made a few successful calls from an aircraft and some that were not successful.

x3guide 04-29-2006 07:33 PM

Well worth watching. Several valid points among the many invalid ones. A bit heavy on the blabbering about a missile hitting the Pentagon and not a plane, but other than that it's interesting and probably more accurate than the Fox News version.

pr0 04-29-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sexxxy Sites
There are those that know so much more than the "engineers and pilots", namely those family members that received calls from flight 93. A successful call being made via cell phone is dependent upon altitude and location. I have made a few successful calls from an aircraft and some that were not successful.

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/20...0801007089.htm

http://www.rense.com/general12/ld.htm

minusonebit 04-29-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum
OK you fucking heartless bastards, there is one reason I am seeing this film. :)

10% of the first three days proceeds go to the Flight 93 Memorial fund, even if you are tinfoil hat freak(like some in this thread obviously) you still cant argue these innocent people should be honored respectfully. Even the families of the victims gave their approval to this film.
http://www.flight93memorialproject.org/

10% of the first three days? Fucking A. If you want to donate, send them a check.

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scootermuze
It's not a conspiracy...

The plane was logged at an altitude of 40k ft. when the calls started coming in..


At&t engineers and commerical pilots have said that cell phones are pretty much worthless once a plane leaves the runway.. and at best, a max of 10k ft. ..
But supposedly 13 calls made it to their destination... And I'm sure the hijackers were ok with all these folks making phone calls.. :)

But there are those in here that know so much more than the engineers and pilots.. So it'll continue to be a conspiracy theory... :)

I assume you have a link that shows the time the calls were made, and logs of the altitude at that time right? Produce the links bub. I think you are full of shit.

stickyfingerz 04-29-2006 08:04 PM

Ahh now they cloned the voices of the relatives, and knew exactly what , say a wife would say to her husband. Probably knew all the personal details like. And tell Grand ma ma Dillard that I love her. You sir a a fookin fool. :1orglaugh

Webby 04-29-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
There is no pipe involved sorry.

That has got to be the saddest statement on GFY.

At least if there was a pipe it would explain why you are obsessed and manage to find a political theme/agenda in every thread.

Check for the communists under your bed tonight - cos they are evil :winkwink:

pussyluver 04-29-2006 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum
Those people were heroes stop fucking pissing on their memory by claiming you know better than their own family. Some of you people make me fucking disgusted.

The people of Flight 93 were heroes, no question. I do not believe this film did them justice. They deserve more. Perhaps yet another movie will be made? I don't know if that would be wise or not. Please do not mistake my comments about the victims of United 93 and the makers of this film.

I could go into the details of the inaccuracies and the unreasonableness of some of the scenes and story line. That would best be done in a conversation, not on a board. I would only extract emotional responses from people that didn't even see the film.

See the film you you want. Again, I don't think it is a fair representation of the facts. I read the reports and background information on United 93 since that horrible day. This film just doesn't cut it.

Splum 04-29-2006 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
The plane was logged at an altitude of 40k ft. when the calls started coming in.. At&t engineers and commerical pilots have said that cell phones are pretty much worthless once a plane leaves the runway.. and at best, a max of 10k ft. ..
But supposedly 13 calls made it to their destination... And I'm sure the hijackers were ok with all these folks making phone calls.. :)

You are a liar.
I dont know what makes you think they dont work at high altitudes, the FCC had to BAN ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION above 10000 feet in fact because it would interfere with critical flight controls.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...air-cell_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...s-planes_x.htm

Also may I remind you that there were IN FLIGHT PHONES ON UNITED 93.

Kevin - The PNN 04-29-2006 09:29 PM

I watched it - overall I thought it was a good job. I am sure some of it was BS, but remembering the events from that day is good. If you fail to stake the time to remember - and think how easy of a target we are, we will remain an easy target. If nothing else - there is value in that.

pr0 04-29-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin - The PNN
I watched it - overall I thought it was a good job. I am sure some of it was BS, but remembering the events from that day is good. If you fail to stake the time to remember - and think how easy of a target we are, we will remain an easy target. If nothing else - there is value in that.

Everyone will always be an easy target, so long as we live in a free society. Its the fear mongers who feast on controlling your weak minds that win.

They bring up just how easy we can perish everyday...& everyday they take away another freedom in the cause of fighting terrorism.

Splum 04-29-2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
Everyone will always be an easy target, so long as we live in a free society. Its the fear mongers who feast on controlling your weak minds that win.

They bring up just how easy we can perish everyday...& everyday they take away another freedom in the cause of fighting terrorism.

As I recall from your sig you frequently get high, I dont know off of which drugs but I am pretty sure it has done some brain damage to you. You may want to do something about that. Also in your location field on your profile it says you are in the matrix, again now all your posts make sense to me. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh and I say these things with some sense of sadness for your life not to be mean spirited at all.

Sexxxy Sites 04-29-2006 10:13 PM

The matrix? This explains alot.

J$tyle$ 04-29-2006 10:16 PM

It's on A&E right now for whoever is interested (PST)

Scootermuze 04-29-2006 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum
You are a liar.
I dont know what makes you think they dont work at high altitudes, the FCC had to BAN ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATION above 10000 feet in fact because it would interfere with critical flight controls.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...air-cell_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...s-planes_x.htm
Also may I remind you that there were IN FLIGHT PHONES ON UNITED 93.

From your links...:
Cell phones usually don't work at high altitudes. When they do, they simultaneously communicate with hundreds of cell towers on the ground, clogging networks.....

Amazing for something that usually doesn't work, but 13 calls worked.. and they were supposedly calls from cell phones...

Here are some more liars for ya.. :)

"The idea of being able to use a cellphone while flying is completely impractical. Once through about 10,000 feet, the thing is useless, since you are too high and moving too fast (and thus changing cells too rapidly) for the phone to provide a signal." (AVWeb, 1999)

..... even at the latter altitude (and below), the handoff problem appears. Any airliner at or below this altitude, flying at the normal speed of approximately 500 mph, would encounter the handoff problem (Dewdney 2003). An aircraft traveling at this speed would not be over the cellsite long enough to complete the electronic "handshake" (which takes several seconds to complete) before arriving over the next cellsite, when the call has to be handed off from the first cellsite to the next one. This also takes a few seconds, the result being, in the optimal case, a series of broken transmissions that must end, sooner or later, in failure.

Wow.. lots of liars out there.. :)

Splum 04-30-2006 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
From your links...:
Cell phones usually don't work at high altitudes. When they do, they simultaneously communicate with hundreds of cell towers on the ground, clogging networks.....

Amazing for something that usually doesn't work, but 13 calls worked.. and they were supposedly calls from cell phones...

Where the fuck is your information coming from lol? Conspiracy website no doubt if you read it on the internets it must be true! I noticed you didnt provide links lol. Here Ill even put some more proof out there for you from an impartial technical journal...

Quote:

Our research shows clearly that, in violation of FCC and FAA rules, calls are regularly made from commercial aircraft. Results from our analysis imply that calls from on board scheduled commercial aircraft in the eastern United States occur at a rate of one to four per flight. In addition, we saw other signals that suggest that at least one passenger neglects to turn off his or her cellphone on most flights.
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/mar06/3069/2

pr0 04-30-2006 10:05 AM

You're all sheep. Sheep i say...if you pay to see this movie.

Fetish 04-30-2006 11:04 AM

Whether alot of it was speculation or not, I do not really care. The movie was very well done and the audience was very emotional. What really interested me was not what went down on the plane as much as the confusion between the Military and the FAA.

DBS.US 04-30-2006 11:10 AM

The movie was made for one thing, making money. lots and lots of money:2 cents:

StuartD 04-30-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0
this has ZERO (0) to do with politics.

PURE HEARTLESS GREED BULLSHIT COOKED UP FOR IGNORANT FUCKS & REDNECKS :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

Make up your mind, does it have 0 to do with politics or is it about a Bush election win?

stickyfingerz 04-30-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
From your links...:
Cell phones usually don't work at high altitudes. When they do, they simultaneously communicate with hundreds of cell towers on the ground, clogging networks.....

Amazing for something that usually doesn't work, but 13 calls worked.. and they were supposedly calls from cell phones...

Here are some more liars for ya.. :)

"The idea of being able to use a cellphone while flying is completely impractical. Once through about 10,000 feet, the thing is useless, since you are too high and moving too fast (and thus changing cells too rapidly) for the phone to provide a signal." (AVWeb, 1999)

..... even at the latter altitude (and below), the handoff problem appears. Any airliner at or below this altitude, flying at the normal speed of approximately 500 mph, would encounter the handoff problem (Dewdney 2003). An aircraft traveling at this speed would not be over the cellsite long enough to complete the electronic "handshake" (which takes several seconds to complete) before arriving over the next cellsite, when the call has to be handed off from the first cellsite to the next one. This also takes a few seconds, the result being, in the optimal case, a series of broken transmissions that must end, sooner or later, in failure.

Wow.. lots of liars out there.. :)

Still waiting for you link to the logs of the cell phone call times, and the logs of the altitude of the aircraft at that time. You fuckin liar....

directfiesta 04-30-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Still waiting for you link to the logs of the cell phone call times, and the logs of the altitude of the aircraft at that time. You fuckin liar....

what an idiot.

stickyfingerz 04-30-2006 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta
what an idiot.

Yes he is an idiot.

stickyfingerz 04-30-2006 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze
It's not a conspiracy...

The plane was logged at an altitude of 40k ft. when the calls started coming in..

At&t engineers and commerical pilots have said that cell phones are pretty much worthless once a plane leaves the runway.. and at best, a max of 10k ft. ..
But supposedly 13 calls made it to their destination... And I'm sure the hijackers were ok with all these folks making phone calls.. :)

But there are those in here that know so much more than the engineers and pilots.. So it'll continue to be a conspiracy theory... :)


Where is the link to this information? Please post it. Prove you are not a fuckin liar.

candyflip 04-30-2006 11:36 AM

If they really wanted to honor these folks, they wouldn't stalling on the $60+ million memorial they want to build.

BlueWire 04-30-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
JFK hundreds of witnesses in & around the book depository, the grassy nole, SMELLED gunpowder, saw/heard shots, people etc.

Titanic - hundreds of surviving witnesses

Alive - surviving cannibals

Plane crash (supposed cellphone calls)

anyone see a common ground?

Know what else....these movies were made DECADES after. This film was made.

This film was made for one reason & one reason only. GREEEEEED

I am a movie buff, i've seen thousands of films & i know a pile of shit when i see it. And i don't need to see the film to critique its philosophy of greed.


JFK situation is still one of the most debated events in history as to what EXACTLY really happend

Titanic....As the ship goes down, you're in the middle of fucking nowhere without a light in sight. They have NOW discovered that the ship went down in THREE pieces, not two....yet these "eye witnesses" couldnt figure that out......So really...how much of the events were REALLY accurate.


Take a movie for what its worth. Its a hollywood depiction that is MAYBE half accurate....just like the rest of these other movies.

I hate bush...i'm open to the conspiracy theories...i'd still like to see the movie. I just can't see myself bashing like you are but I'll wait to see it to make FINAL decision on that i guess :upsidedow


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