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seeric 04-26-2006 01:34 PM

why would anyone email webmaster lists with consumer spam?

that has to be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

DutchTeenCash 04-26-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K
why would anyone email webmaster lists with consumer spam?

that has to be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

yeah that wonders me too

Quickdraw 04-26-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K
why would anyone email webmaster lists with consumer spam?

that has to be the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.

yet it happens, often.

studiocritic 04-26-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
dude...having worked for several programs, i can tell you that the webmaster databases were always kept seperate from users lol

this thread is useless to be honest...there are so many possibilities, its not even remotely usefull as a litmus test for spamming sponsors

so why don't you call it a day

if you don't like the thread, you've got my permission to participate in any of the other ones available at gfy.com now! :thumbsup

pr0 04-26-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic
if you don't like the thread, you've got my permission to participate in any of the other ones available at gfy.com now! :thumbsup

it's harder to discredit & otherwise make fun of other posts :winkwink:

studiocritic 04-26-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
it's harder to discredit & otherwise make fun of other posts :winkwink:

fair enough :1orglaugh

oh well.. i've got no end goal or motive here, just venting and sharing.

people can draw their own conclusions

-HF 04-26-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid
That said, a catchall can be spammed by using a dictionary spam approach, it doesn't necessarily mean it's the sponsors

and what dictionary exactly does one use to find the domains the emails used for sponsor signups are on? especially when out of several hundred domains only the handful used for sponsor sign ups are hit?

additionally to the already mentioned [email protected] style accounts, i also had my username@epass hit with the same kind of spam today. now i do not really know any dictionary sporting words including numbers or underscores. would i need to update my dictionary, you reckon?

TheSenator 04-26-2006 02:35 PM

I just farted and spam came out.

buddyjuf 04-26-2006 02:45 PM

studiocritic yo,

you have to see that all of your spam posted in this thread is the "exact same", meaning that it is from the same SPAMMER

now what are the odds that all these companies sold your list to the same spammer? you know what I mean?

could it just be that somehow this spammer has all your [email protected] and sending all the spam there?

think about it before you go hitting on the sponsors

rowan 04-26-2006 02:46 PM

I think you should use more unique addresses, like sponsor<randomnumber>@yourdomain.com.

My epass email also gets spammed - something I didn't realise until I set up forwarding as they filter their webmail - but I've only ever sent or received payments to/from a small group of webmasters and programs.

I really don't get it, why spam webmasters with "consumer" stuff.....

woj 04-26-2006 02:48 PM

50.........

Dollarmansteve 04-26-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan
I really don't get it, why spam webmasters with "consumer" stuff.....

its not done intentionally. When a list has 1.5 million emails, 1,499,000 could be consumers and 1000 could turn out to be webmasters. No mailer would ever send to a webmaster-only list - it wouldnt make them any money (and that is the reason they are in business..)

People need to realize that just because the address getting spammed is a 'webmaster' email address doesnt imply that the entire list is made up webmaster email addresses.

BlackCrayon 04-26-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
its not done intentionally. When a list has 1.5 million emails, 1,499,000 could be consumers and 1000 could turn out to be webmasters. No mailer would ever send to a webmaster-only list - it wouldnt make them any money (and that is the reason they are in business..)

People need to realize that just because the address getting spammed is a 'webmaster' email address doesnt imply that the entire list is made up webmaster email addresses.

of course but where do they get it from is what i'd like to know. i really doubt spammers add a program name to domains they mail to. some spammers are really stupid though and don't remove webmaster@ or admin@ or even .gov or .edu domains. for the past couple weeks i've been getting bounce backs from a stock spammer using all that and more.

dcortez 04-26-2006 04:37 PM

I just posted another thread related to this topic.

In any case, we have the same problem - consumer/surfer spam is being sent to our *UNIQUE* sponsor email addresses. These adresses are not obvious (or guessable) and it looks like the sponsors have somehow let the affiliate email addresses out.

What's up with that?

Is our affiliate application/data leaked, lost, hacked and/or distributed?

-HF 04-26-2006 06:22 PM

when i read the sponsor names involved, it seems they all use the same billing service.

granted i didn't check on all of them, but those that i am familiar with seem to.

and even the epassporte mail being spammed would suit that picture.

Deraj 04-26-2006 06:39 PM

bump for this thread.. i receive bullshit spam from sponsors all the time.. not naming names.. but i have notified them and they haven't done shit to stop it. I would think that one would realize anyways that spamming Adult Webmasters with anything but good deals on drugs and alcohol would be a complete waste of time/money !
:1orglaugh:

Joey B. Lo 04-26-2006 06:41 PM

not us. spam sucks!

dcortez 04-26-2006 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -HF
when i read the sponsor names involved, it seems they all use the same billing service.

granted i didn't check on all of them, but those that i am familiar with seem to.

and even the epassporte mail being spammed would suit that picture.

Ditto that. The billing processor seems to be common to most of the sponsor email spam.

studiocritic 04-27-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez
Ditto that. The billing processor seems to be common to most of the sponsor email spam.

and again, no one cries foul, does anything about it.. if this is indeed the case, i predict this biller will lose $0 in business over leaking info.

CuriousToyBoy 04-27-2006 11:56 PM

Why ANY sponsor, whether they accept mail or not, would EVER send mail to webmasters is beyond me.

We accept compliant mail, if we got a complaint from a webmaster along these lines, accounst would be cancelled forthwith.

Done accordinging to the established provisions there is NOTHING wrong with email.

And there you go, you have it from a sponsor... the problem is.. people confuse SPAM with MAIL. There is a HUGE difference.

The only people that whinge and whine and complain about legitimate email marketing are those who cannot do it themselves. IMHO.

In your case, someone may well have backdoored your PC mate... seems TOO many coinceidences ....

NOTE FOR ALL:
To test if someone is sucking your emails from the inside, set up an email address that is NOT used anywhere, but is set up in your email client. If you receive mail addressed to that, you have been hacked.

It happened to me a long time ago and ended up with a reformat and reinstall to get rid of it.

2c

rowan 04-28-2006 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
its not done intentionally. When a list has 1.5 million emails, 1,499,000 could be consumers and 1000 could turn out to be webmasters. No mailer would ever send to a webmaster-only list - it wouldnt make them any money (and that is the reason they are in business..)

People need to realize that just because the address getting spammed is a 'webmaster' email address doesnt imply that the entire list is made up webmaster email addresses.

The whole point of this thread was to show that unique email addresses used to sign up to a single sponsor are receiving consumer spam. That address has to get on your big list somehow...

u-Bob 04-28-2006 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hentaikid
That said, a catchall can be spammed by using a dictionary spam approach, it doesn't necessarily mean it's the sponsors

I don't use a catchall but i do use seperate email addresses for every sponsor. Those are UNIQUE addresses, containing a combination of a string based on the sponsors name and a random string.

Thing is, I'm getting spam to [email protected] (the address i used to signup) and not to
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
....

What are the chances of a spammer guessing a random strig like that...

Ian 04-28-2006 05:26 AM

Spam's outta control lately. I usually get 1-200 a day. Lately it's been about 800 a day. :Oh crap

xcitecash 04-28-2006 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by studiocritic
oh, and sponsors understand this:

i don't care if you sold it, or got hacked.

it's the same thing with exception to that one is by malice, the other by ignorance.

there's no room for either in these times

being new to what we do on the web as previously we have been in production for a long time. how are we supposed to learn if this is what we have to deal with
I once had a problem i really didnt understand when through ccbill for some reason when i tried to e-mail OUR affiliates with passcodes it sent 2000 or more (i dont know) e-mails to what i can only think was from their database

I got so much shit and didnt and still dont understand what happened

If there is no room for ignorance in your world then how are those who are just starting supposed to learn I know some on here are anti newbie but the world isn't and can't be like that

what is so offensive about spam e-mail that you just cant delete them ?

i am with you guys 100% if its done through malice BTW

if anyone can explain briefly why it happened to me through ccbill i would be gratefull


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