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Old 04-23-2006, 05:48 PM   #1
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Just saw Fahrenheit 9/11 again

Probably the 3rd time its happened to be on Cinemax, HBO or one of those that I've just had it in the background while working.

It still manages to get me a little pissed off about the state of things..

How do you feel?
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Old 04-23-2006, 05:51 PM   #2
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yeah it still really pisses me off too... :@
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it's sad how fucked up things are and osama is still out there almost 5 years later
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Its sad you believe anything that was in that movie.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:15 PM   #5
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Its sad you believe anything that was in that movie.


There is more truth in that movie than in the White House ....

There is less spin in that movie than in the White House..

Wake up, kiddo ....


PS: maybe I should believe that Saddam has WMD, that he can deliver then in 15 minutes, that he has mobile labs, that he bought yellow cake from Nigeria, the he is to use aluminium tubing for missile, that he will gaz troops penetrating a red line around Baghdad .. and so on ...

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Old 04-23-2006, 06:16 PM   #6
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Its sad you believe anything that was in that movie.
its really sad that anyone could watch that movie , and come away with that conclusion..

Why would you make such an idiotic comment.. parts of the movie were interviews.. they speak for themselves..

What you mean to say is " the overall conclusion of moore is faulty yadda yadda , thats fine , but to say "its sad you believe anything that was in that movie " is 10 times more idiotic than any conspiracy theory i have ever heard."

Your telling me every single thing in the movie was false.. get a grip .. you have such a chip on your shoulder..

Moore is a hypocrite and knowingly hyped misleading information to "stir shit" , that doesnt mean everything he says or does is wrong.. it means he is about as credible as bush is..= not very..

You dont have to be an artist to know a painting sucks.. you can even explain it improperly or lie, but it doesnt mean the painting is "great" just because its "detractors" are idiots.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:43 PM   #8
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http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Ok weak minded ones that believe a Mikey Fatass Moore film.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Im sure you will ignore it, but read away. 4 pages of the lies he puts forth.
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Hehe I was watching it too... Despite the fact that I hate Michael Moore, there wasn't really anything else on.

Mission Impossible 1 followed by 2 on Universal channel right now btw
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:48 PM   #10
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http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Ok weak minded ones that believe a Mikey Fatass Moore film.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Im sure you will ignore it, but read away. 4 pages of the lies he puts forth.
so let me get this straight - everything your gov tells is true, and anyone who questions it isnt?
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There is more truth in that movie than in the White House ....

There is less spin in that movie than in the White House..

Wake up, kiddo ....


PS: maybe I should believe that Saddam has WMD, that he can deliver then in 15 minutes, that he has mobile labs, that he bought yellow cake from Nigeria, the he is to use aluminium tubing for missile, that he will gaz troops penetrating a red line around Baghdad .. and so on ...

Have any used tinfoil hats for sale ????

The FACT is Saddam DID have WMD, although many were shipped out of Iraq and into Syria before the war.

He even used WMD against civilians in Halabja in 1988, and against Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, etc..

There was alot we didn't know about Saddam's capabilities. His regime cloaked alot of its programs.

The world is alot better off without Saddam.

WMD was only one of many many reasons to take him out.
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The FACT is Saddam DID have WMD, although many were shipped out of Iraq and into Syria before the war.

He even used WMD against civilians in Halabja in 1988, and against Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, etc..

There was alot we didn't know about Saddam's capabilities. His regime cloaked alot of its programs.

The world is alot better off without Saddam.

WMD was only one of many many reasons to take him out.
Odd how he wouldn't use these WMDs in battle as his country got taken over. Saving them for a rainy day in Syria? If so, why aren't we in Syria right now getting them? Probably the same reason O.J. isn't out looking for Nicole's killer.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:53 PM   #13
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I haven't seen the other film that was linked discrediting Moore. I know Moore can play games with stuff and turn words around. However, any film that boasts Ann Coulter taking a part in it, already loses all credibility.
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Its sad you believe anything that was in that movie.
Yeah
I ain't saying it's 100% false but never judge a book by it's cover
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I ain't saying it's 100% false but never judge a book by it's cover
Ive actually researched it quite a bit. I have a Michael Moore site Ive had since 2004. Do some research on it.
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The FACT is Saddam DID have WMD, although many were shipped out of Iraq and into Syria before the war.

He even used WMD against civilians in Halabja in 1988, and against Iran in the Iran-Iraq war, etc..

There was alot we didn't know about Saddam's capabilities. His regime cloaked alot of its programs.

The world is alot better off without Saddam.

WMD was only one of many many reasons to take him out.
bla bla bla ....

I'm getting attacked tomorrow by the street bully ... I have to go... got to pack my guns & knives and ship them to my neighboor ....


You are pathetic
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so let me get this straight - everything your gov tells is true, and anyone who questions it isnt?
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I don't believe anything politicians say.

So anything and everything is possible.
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Michael Moore is a fat sack of shit. I'm sure there's at least some truth to what he's presenting, and I certainly wouldn't discredit the entire movie. I just think he spins a bit too much himself to make a point. I'd rather he just deliver his investigation and conclusions and let me make up my own mind about it. The fact of the matter though is he does not.
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Fahrenheit 9/11 is alright....but Fahrenheit 69 is da shit!!!

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First let me get this straight Saddam was a monster but he sent his wmd's away, when his country was going to get invaded. Dont you realize how stupid that sounds.
Also I love all the people cry about Michael Moore who puts out a 2 hr movie but the 40 hours a week of right wing bullshit is fine. Also ever think they attack Michael Moore with a whole movie because he was telling the truth?
First off who ever thought documentaries have to be balanced knows nothing about them.
This whole balanced bullshit was a marketing term you bought from fox who is so far from balanced.
Also if you ever watched Michael Moores TV nation he attacked Clinton on a regular basis.
A documentaries job is to make you think nothing more.
Also if you go to his site he backs up everything in 911 with links to the actual articles.Not hear say and opinion like the I hate michael moore movie.
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First let me get this straight Saddam was a monster but he sent his wmd's away, when his country was going to get invaded. Dont you realize how stupid that sounds.
Also I love all the people cry about Michael Moore who puts out a 2 hr movie but the 40 hours a week of right wing bullshit is fine. Also ever think they attack Michael Moore with a whole movie because he was telling the truth?
First off who ever thought documentaries have to be balanced knows nothing about them.
This whole balanced bullshit was a marketing term you bought from fox who is so far from balanced.
Also if you ever watched Michael Moores TV nation he attacked Clinton on a regular basis.
A documentaries job is to make you think nothing more.
Also if you go to his site he backs up everything in 911 with links to the actual articles.Not hear say and opinion like the I hate michael moore movie.
Umm sorry thats not what a fucking documentary is for.

Read the link I posted above.
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My favourite scene is, where they are shaving that young army recruts hair ...you will kow if you have seen the movie....
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Odd how he wouldn't use these WMDs in battle as his country got taken over. Saving them for a rainy day in Syria? If so, why aren't we in Syria right now getting them? Probably the same reason O.J. isn't out looking for Nicole's killer.
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The FACT is Saddam DID have WMD, although many were shipped out of Iraq and into Syria before the war.
You really said this??

I knew watching Fox News rots the brain and removes that capacity to think but seriously...
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Fuck fahrenheit 911.. its a bunch of disinformation!

Michael Moore refuses to discuss the illuminati and the 9/11 conspiracy.. why?
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You have to be objective about the whole thing. M.Moore made that doc. to make money, of course. With that in mind, you can't really take him at his word... no doubt it is derived from a version of the truth. But, his main agenda is making bank... not spreading the truth.
You just have to keep an open mind, and look into the things that are getting you fired up....
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The one thing that gets me about conspiracy theories is this...

If we, the "minions" are capable of coming up with all of these great conspiracy theories and there are so many that share the same ideas...

why is it so impossible to fathum the thought that maybe the world leaders and their highly educated and highly paid staff wouldn't be able to come up with these particular ideas that we are speaking of in advance and make them a reality?

Conspiracy theories usually do have some substance or reason behind them... I think that the people running countries could potentially have the ability to come up with master plots like 9/11 and certainly have the ablity to put it in motion. Only thing I see as a fuckup is their inability to cover it up properly and now they are all running in circles. Should have looked at all of the potentials before they proceeded... would have made the conspiracy theorists seem alot less credible...oh well...tsk..tsk... learn for next time.

Saddam, WMD....good one! the man was captured in a hole in the ground... this is definitely someone we should consider as a threat to humanity.

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You people that thing it's improbably that he'd have shipped his supposed WMD's to Syria..

Which has been more effective in making America looking bad... Iraq fighting back and failing miserably as they did the first time around... or playing the victim and letting the global media and public opinion do it's thing?
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Michael Moore and Rush Limbaugh

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Ok weak minded ones that believe a Mikey Fatass Moore film.

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

Im sure you will ignore it, but read away. 4 pages of the lies he puts forth.



im th inking this guy is actually a fed

a gay fed...undercover to try and pin some shit on this industry


who else could be so stupid
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im th inking this guy is actually a fed

a gay fed...undercover to try and pin some shit on this industry


who else could be so stupid
Ahh wonderful rebuttle. That will teach him.
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Ahh wonderful rebuttle. That will teach him.

teach who? rebuttle to what?

i think you are an asshat

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I have always loved the term "asshat".... just never seems to get old.
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Probably the 3rd time its happened to be on Cinemax, HBO or one of those that I've just had it in the background while working.

It still manages to get me a little pissed off about the state of things..

How do you feel?
That was Cinemax, channel 16 on Cable Tica, in the afternoon. Was watching it in the background too. Of course it's riddled with holes and some spin of its own, but a few of the points can be backed up with facts and are too egregious to ignore.

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Michael Moore is a big stupid rotten fat fuck. Anyone who buys into that garbage is insane.
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The one thing I took away from that movie is the mother of the soldier who was killed.

While I wouldn't wish that on anyone, it was SHE who suggested to her son that the best thing for her son to do was to enlist, because she couldn't provide him with some of the things the military could. In fact, she was in a position to suggest to MANY that the military was a viable option.

Then when her son was killed, it was someone else's fault. What about the other people who enlisted on her advice and were subsequently killed? Does she take responsibility for that?

They made the army recruiters out to be very predatory in that movie, and perhaps they are. But if she's suggesting it to people who will listen to her, is she any different? Moore raises some interesting points, but also edits his movies to put the absolute best spin to get HIS point across.

More and more lately I'm getting the impression that those who join the military believe they have every right to all of the benefits that the military provides, but can pick and choose when and where they want to go to war. If you're not prepared to go when you're ordered to...because you ARE being paid, simply don't enlist.
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I've never seen the film. =o
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