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05-10-2002, 04:53 AM
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Amateur niche info...
hallo, im making a amateur paysite, and im in the process of buying content, but i would like some info from someone who knows this niche very well, im not really sure what i should pick when i look at the sets, ofcourse amateur hungry surfers donīt want glamour models, but i need some guidelines... will ugly mainstream girls be what im looking for or, does the models still need to look very hot?..
I some movies with a model and she had a zit beside her nose, beside that she looked hot so i didnīt know if i should buy her stuff.... help me out here please.. nick |
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05-10-2002, 04:57 AM
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Have a look at our amateur sets, if you find anything you like write us an email....curently we are running some opening offers and are customising prices alot depending on what you need
 Find us at www.cool-content.com
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05-10-2002, 06:42 AM
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all amateur models at chickpixxx.com
they all have pic and video sets at fantastic rates check out our amateur girls or take a peek at our content cd's on sale now! good luck on your search
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05-10-2002, 08:02 AM
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Second of all, if you don't know you're niche you shouldn't be building a site. You better start surfing. |
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05-10-2002, 08:12 AM
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05-10-2002, 10:05 AM
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why do you want to start a paysite? why amateur? why not shot your own content? the cost of shooting your own works out to be about the same - and when you consider that nodoby will have ever seen the girl before - the value of shooting your own takes it way up. couple that with the idea - that the content now looks truelly amateur. |
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05-10-2002, 10:44 AM
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05-10-2002, 11:03 AM
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Um.... Are you sure that shouldn't be "your niche"? If you're going to get snippy about the language and grammar in a post, you might want to tighten up your own, first.  Just giving you shit, Nina - I do agree with your point about doing some research before building the site.
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05-10-2002, 01:34 PM
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xxxtera If you have to ask what the niche amateur means stay away. Open a site about something you know. If this does not persuade you go to our site and see what "Amateur Model Content" really is about. |
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05-10-2002, 01:35 PM
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05-10-2002, 02:12 PM
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Holy fuck what a bunch of lame replies, im asking here as a part of my research!!! Im not a retard i know what an amateur is..doh i just want to do this 100% right so thats why i asked in here.. i'm sure that many of the current "Amateur" paysites aint amateurs for shit... And i have worked in the teen, anal, cumshot, bukkake, asian niche and want to do something new..and all i get is remarks about my grammar, I really donīt give a fuck about typos... this wasnīt grammar class last i checked.
I always post serious things here, but i guess it's not what i'm supposed to do, so let me find some funny links, and some jokes for you guys..... I come here for a fun input in my day too, but mostly i want to read some interesting info, on this business. Nick |
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05-10-2002, 02:56 PM
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Jesus - lighten up, xxxtera!
On a board called "Go Fuck Yourself", you're going to catch some shit, man - that's just the way it is. For the record, my post about grammar was a poke at Nina for having mangled grammar in her post, while taking you to task over your grammar. You want serious advice on the amateur niche? Here you go; * Put some real money into this project, and commission exclusive content sets. The girls don't have to be absolutely new/unknown; as long as they aren't too recognizable/already over-distributed, they'll do nicely. If you give surfers something they haven't seen before, and can't see elsewhere, it will increase the likelihood that they'll whip out that CC and spend. * Do not, under any circumstances, use known pornstars on your site tour. If you don't know who the "name" pornstars of the moment are, that's some more research for you to do.... * Do not promise a level of access to the girls that you cannot supply. In other words, don't have a pic of a girl with a tag line that says "chat with me live" unless you can deliver the promised chat * Take a look at the big amateur link sites like <a href="http://www.amateurindex.com/">Amateur Index</a> and get a feel for how the amateur market is pitched on the free site level. Sure, a lot of the sites on there look like crap (and some of them ARE crap), but you'll get some valuable insight into the niche. If nothing else, you'll start to recognize things you shouldn't be doing. There! Now you can't say that no one on GFY ever gave you a serious, constructive response. Now.... go fuck yourself!!
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05-10-2002, 03:40 PM
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TopCashQ: Thanks alot for a very informative reply
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05-10-2002, 03:43 PM
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send me an ICQ msg or email on [email protected]
have a look at our content.
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05-10-2002, 04:06 PM
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 To answer your question... "Amateur" is seen by surfers in many different ways just like it is seen differently between a lot of content providers. To me, amateur means that the girl is not a pro AND the images are not the kind of thing you might find in a magazine. Most of the established content providers who advertise that they shoot amateur teens are actually shoot in more of a "pro-am" style. BrettJ shoots true amateur content for his Dorm Angels site and he does well with it. By Charly's definition, Brett is a "Bonehead with a camera, trying to see some pussy..." but I personally know Brett and I can tell you that he is a very smart guy who is making money doing what he likes. All types of amateur sites sell if you market them correctly. I would suggest you decide what YOU can market best then buy from a content provider who can deliver the type of amateur content that you want....or, shoot it yourself if you like. Good Luck with your project V |
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05-10-2002, 04:11 PM
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Your grammar wasn't really the point... it was your questions... they seem a little elementary when thinking about building an amateur site. But now you've gone and made me feel a little pang of guilt... if you want to talk more about the amateur market you can always icq me... 116038101 |
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05-10-2002, 04:21 PM
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AaronM: Thank you for the info, that was exactly why I asked in the first place, I got very confused when I looked for content, the Amateur providers where very different quality wise ect. so I thought I would ask here for info, before I bought alot of crap.
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05-10-2002, 04:35 PM
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05-10-2002, 11:15 PM
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My biggest pet peeve about how most sites do amateur is that if a girl is ugly, they just call her amateur and that works. I am an amateur, have been doing my own site for over 3 years and, it's true, you don't have to be a hottie to do well, but I think it's important for the girl to look her best. Guys who like amateur like it because they want to see real girls who are attainable (or more so than a porn star). Guys who like a real amateur site like mine.. not trying to toot my own horn, just using mine as an example... they like it for the personality of it. That's what's hardest to get by doing an amateur niche paysite, you can't get the personality of the girl thru to the guy very easily unless the girl is a part of the site. I have a diary on mine, so my members get to read my thoughts or just see what I've been up to and I don't ever make it up. I also have member chats and a voyeur cam, so guys can get a certain relationship going with me... this is what makes amateurs a viable commodity..not average looks and bad photography. IMHO ; )
Here are some examples of good amateur sites.. http://www.clubcatalina.com that's mine ; ) http://www.kristinasworld.com way hot girl http://www.racquelsworld.com Sure these are single girl type sites, but you can see a good example of what amateur surfers are looking for.. and if you want any help with anything, feel free to icq me 86215052 And, in my signature is some of this content I am talking about.. |
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05-11-2002, 12:20 AM
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Amateur is the girl next door posing for her husband, boyfriend or a mate for the kicks of it.
The thought of the watcher is = This girl is so loose and free she is doing this for the kicks. She will fuck the cameraman after the shoot because she is easy and likes fucking. Therefore if I was there she would fuck me. Girls do not need to be good looking, in fact pretty at the best. What they have to be is believable and look new to the modelling game. Unless a girl is exceptional it's best to keep it to a maximum of 4-5 sets of a girl. 1 set will work fine, you are trying to get over that this girl is not a pro model that comes back for money. She is doing this for the kicks not the bucks. She can be a horny rich bitch or a girl living in a squat. She should not have professional make up, not "pose" too much. It has to look instant fast and fun. This girl was doing it so she could get laid, not paid. The photographer can be pro or amateur, most pro photographers can and do shoot amateur style. The most important thing is the look on her face, there are a lot of shooters that can get the look. But 100s that cannot. It is not, do I want to fuck her. It's, does she want to fuck the nearest guy/guys she can find, right now. As Aaron said, there are many interpretations on "amateur style". But beware that you get the interpretation your surfer wants and not what the content provider wants you to have. |
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