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Old 04-22-2006, 04:29 PM   #1
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You're Fired!

I genuinely hope this post isn't offensive to anyone, but I have a sensitive situation I need advice on how to deal with:

I have a new CCBill program. As such- I'm pretty tolerant because we need all the traffic we can get, but one affiliate is really pushing the limits of acceptability:

He sends TONS of traffic, so much I've had to increase my dedicated server account. And not one sale from him.

I know it isn't the sites, because other affiliates are getting great ratios.

Also, niche has nothing to do with it, because his site is the same niche as the site he's sending traffic to.

His traffic just SUCKS. Most of it is from places I can't pronounce.

Can I respectfully ask him not to send anymore? Is that acceptable behavior from a sponsor?

Or do I need to bite my lip, and hope that more productive affiliates migrate to the program as time goes on?

Every day feels like a kick in the pocket!
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:34 PM   #2
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:39 PM   #3
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For how long? Strange that he still push traffic to your site if it doesn't convert. Contact him and try to help convert the traffic. Tell him to show you the sites he sends traffic from etc.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:41 PM   #4
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ha ha it's not you.. but I'd love to try some of your traffic.

Also, I don't have any consoles, pops, cross, or up upsales on the sites, but was considering a link to a toy store.. tried to check yours out but got a cookie msg...?
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:43 PM   #5
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I'm not a program owner, but... in all do logic, it is YOUR program and you should be allowed to decide who you accept as an affiliate and who you don't.

But as mentionned, before firing him, talk to him and see whats up. If he can change his traffic or whatnot.

If nothing comes out of it, send him packing and wish good luck finding a sponsor that can convert traffic from Pakistan or whatever country he's getting it from
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:43 PM   #6
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For how long? Strange that he still push traffic to your site if it doesn't convert. Contact him and try to help convert the traffic. Tell him to show you the sites he sends traffic from etc.
Well Pap, it's been almost a month now, literally a zillion hits.

I found it strange he'd keep sending, too. Almost like he knows his stuff doesn't convert and jumps from new sponsor to new sponsor. With ratios this low, I don't believe his traffic would convert anywhere. Not convinced it's real traffic.

I think there's something else going on...
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:47 PM   #7
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I'm not a program owner, but... in all do logic, it is YOUR program and you should be allowed to decide who you accept as an affiliate and who you don't.

But as mentionned, before firing him, talk to him and see whats up. If he can change his traffic or whatnot.

If nothing comes out of it, send him packing and wish good luck finding a sponsor that can convert traffic from Pakistan or whatever country he's getting it from
You and Pap seem to be thinking along the same lines, and I think you're both right.. very level-headed. Either of you know a way to determine whether the traffic is actually 'human' traffic as opposed to tech spins and hit bots?

I am 100% convinced I'm somehow being scammed, because an experienced affiliate would find a sponsor that converted better with his traffic, and a noob wouldn't have this MASSIVE volume of traffic. Somthing is up... but I don't know how to prove it...
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:50 PM   #8
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Yes, not only CAN you tell him you no longer want his traffic, you SHOULD tell him you no longer want it.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:52 PM   #9
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Yes, not only CAN you tell him you no longer want his traffic, you SHOULD tell him you no longer want it.
Ok, Peaches- I'm gettin' close to biting that bullet, and doing just that.

Just want to make sure such actions aren't grounds for a public bashing here, or anywhere else.

Thanks you guys.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:56 PM   #10
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Well Pap, it's been almost a month now, literally a zillion hits.

I found it strange he'd keep sending, too. Almost like he knows his stuff doesn't convert and jumps from new sponsor to new sponsor. With ratios this low, I don't believe his traffic would convert anywhere. Not convinced it's real traffic.

I think there's something else going on...
that sucks man, but as I said be sure to hit him up first and be nice to him. Good luck!
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:59 PM   #11
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You and Pap seem to be thinking along the same lines, and I think you're both right.. very level-headed. Either of you know a way to determine whether the traffic is actually 'human' traffic as opposed to tech spins and hit bots?

I am 100% convinced I'm somehow being scammed, because an experienced affiliate would find a sponsor that converted better with his traffic, and a noob wouldn't have this MASSIVE volume of traffic. Somthing is up... but I don't know how to prove it...

Look at the incoming links. If they are all the same, then you know something is up.

But, it wouldn't make sense to be hitbotting a sponsor, unless its a rival program just wanting to mess with you.

Anyhow, have you talked to the guy?
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:04 PM   #12
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that sucks man, but as I said be sure to hit him up first and be nice to him. Good luck!
Alright, that's what I'm gonna do. And, thanks! By the way- if I can ever return the favor, let me know. I'd be happy to be your sounding board, too.
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:07 PM   #13
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Look at the incoming links. If they are all the same, then you know something is up.

But, it wouldn't make sense to be hitbotting a sponsor, unless its a rival program just wanting to mess with you.

Anyhow, have you talked to the guy?
Well, the incoming links are not all the same... but they're all from the same part of the world. So, I'm still suspicious. Haven't talked to him, yet, but I'm going to. Thanks, and let me know if you ever need anything.
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:30 PM   #14
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:32 PM   #15
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