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Old 04-22-2006, 04:07 PM   #1
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Any talk or notice of the debit fraud?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/techno...i-business-hed


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From Citibank to SunTrust, credit unions to community banks, America's financial institutions are scrambling to deal with the biggest cyber-heist of customer debit-card numbers to date.

The huge computer-hacking incident, which took place more than a month ago, has led to potentially millions of dollars in theft by a global ring of hackers using the stolen debit information and personal-identification numbers, industry experts said this week.

In recent weeks, the nation's banks have quietly tried to extinguish the problem by closing hundreds of thousands of debit-card accounts and providing customers new cards, account numbers and PINs, industry officials said.

Exact figures are unknown -- some banks have reported numbers; others have not. It is thought that at least 350,000 accounts across the country were defrauded, involving more than $10 million in losses, according to some experts.

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Anybody thinking sites will eventually be hit by these?
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:25 PM   #2
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ahh fuck it, ill go make some threads about the assorted fart smells one can produce.
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:28 PM   #3
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no one cares about posts anymore unless you're posting drama relating to ratios being down
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Old 04-22-2006, 04:32 PM   #4
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Well umm if you had customers that had these cards they would not rebill anymore and that should be drama, no?
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:15 PM   #5
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Well umm if you had customers that had these cards they would not rebill anymore and that should be drama, no?
i totally agree, which is why i read...& responded to your thread

i guess big issues don't bother anyone here....they wanna hear about the latest board whore drama, o well ; )
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:34 PM   #6
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i used to know some people from the credit card scene

they dont get your card number from ebay or ccbill....

if you want to protect your card so you wont get fucked over do the following:

1) at gas stations or anywhere else you use your debit card, always put your hand over the digits.... without those 4 numbers, your card is useless

2) DONT shop at little shitty online stores..... they store your credit card, and they dont have good scripts ... so its easily hackable...

3) try to avoid spam phishing mails from paypal, those are a KILLER... if they get all that information, they can have your Bank login and password...to transfer funds out to other accounts across europe

let me know if you need anymore help ;)
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Old 04-22-2006, 05:46 PM   #7
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i hope that information was useful to anyone lol
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Old 04-22-2006, 06:09 PM   #8
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well it would be useful if these bank would give out some info on how hackers are getting there hands on 350,000 account numbers. I'm sure some asshat working at 7-11 didn't get them all. and if their computers are that easily hacked, then they have no business being in the banking business. Inside job maybe?
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i know for a fact that some of these are "inside jobs"

There were a few last year and after tracking down some of the fraud charges , many were found to have been made to accounts before the user even got a credit card, the only other possibility besides an "inside job" would be USPS , but they have so many other things they get to steal that credit card fraud would be too complicated..

Add ontop of that , all the credit companies outsource their phone support to pakistan , and you have a situation ripe for fraud..

When i call visa i get pakistan and some dude that asks for credit card number etc , everything they need , so your telling me they outsource this cheap ass job to pakistan and these guys are making enough that they couldnt just write down or remember credit card details of 1 person each per day and make a profit..

If you were making $2 per hour and barely scraping by and guys called up all day with credit card numbers you wouldnt "skim" a little ? doubt it..

but i doubt it stops there i m sure these guys could do it on their own , but its more than likely the call center bosses , that pay the employees bonus to record a certain amount of cc's per day , boss man collects the numbers " en masse" at the end of the day . if anything every goes wrong he blames everything on the $2 an hour employees, and they all quit and work at the next call center , because theres nothing they can legally do about it.
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i hope that information was useful to anyone lol
yea it was usefull...everyone knows you used to deal with people in the "cc scene"

great public relations for a new guy
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Old 04-22-2006, 06:30 PM   #11
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i know for a fact that some of these are "inside jobs"

There were a few last year and after tracking down some of the fraud charges , many were found to have been made to accounts before the user even got a credit card, the only other possibility besides an "inside job" would be USPS , but they have so many other things they get to steal that credit card fraud would be too complicated..

Add ontop of that , all the credit companies outsource their phone support to pakistan , and you have a situation ripe for fraud..

When i call visa i get pakistan and some dude that asks for credit card number etc , everything they need , so your telling me they outsource this cheap ass job to pakistan and these guys are making enough that they couldnt just write down or remember credit card details of 1 person each per day and make a profit..

If you were making $2 per hour and barely scraping by and guys called up all day with credit card numbers you wouldnt "skim" a little ? doubt it..

but i doubt it stops there i m sure these guys could do it on their own , but its more than likely the call center bosses , that pay the employees bonus to record a certain amount of cc's per day , boss man collects the numbers " en masse" at the end of the day . if anything every goes wrong he blames everything on the $2 an hour employees, and they all quit and work at the next call center , because theres nothing they can legally do about it.
Even if security was tight at these centers in pakistan. How much would it cost to place a tiny recorder in someones ear, like a hearing aid?

When i get someone in pakistan, i call the "stolen card" line, & then say oops, wrong extension/#, can you direct me to customer service. They typically will not transfer you to outsourced customer service people.
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haha, nice. I wonder whose database got hacked.
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Old 04-22-2006, 08:16 PM   #13
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haha, nice. I wonder whose database got hacked.
I belive they mention something about officemax.
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I've been having issues with my business account as of recently because of this "quiet" move that the banks pulled. I spoke to a supervisor today and he litlerally said this was due to a "3rd party biller" that was recently hacked, so they reissued everyone new cards. he said he didn't know which one it was, but after a few searches i think i found the culprit.
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