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And you still aren't reading. It wasn't a module in mpa2. It was built in. It was a great program otherwise. Some programs wanted to use it, since it was the best at the time (NATS wasn't even around then)... but they didn't want to use the shaving feature. Of course, you know that, right? You wouldn't just assume that a program would automatically steal just because they were capable of doing it.. right? Right? |
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That is like saying you are sticking with DOS because Windows has that annoying calculator function that I will never use. |
baddog shut the fuck up you washed up biker dork
christ you're annoying.... |
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I?m also still waiting to hear more about this mysterious ?someone? who sent you the URL in the first place. |
There are alot of programs that I worry about shaving my stats, but Naughtybank is not one of them.
Those guys should teach other programs how to run a site that converts and rebills. I have people rebilling for over a year on their site. |
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Mpa3 never had a shave module you said. You never had mpa2. Then why do you have this anti shaving thing?
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That doesn't change the fact that with MPA2 you made it easy to fuck over webmasters. You sold software with a build in shave module you never thought it would back fire on you? I will NEVER use a program using your software you helped programs owners STEAL from honest webmasters in my book you are scum. |
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Not all programs are bad because they have an MPA package at some point. I hate Microsoft for their crappy software but I'd never stop doing business with anyone who uses Windows because of it. |
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But Windows users have this undying determination to continue working through so many crashes, blue screens and reboots :1orglaugh |
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But you know as well as me there are programs that used it because it was there and the temptation were to big. I have nothing against NaughtyBank or any other program running MPA3 but there are so many sponsors its easy to find a replacement. |
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I just can't shake it out of my head that MPA did have a shave feature and kinda still stay away from affiliate programs using that program. |
Mpa3 never had a shave module you said. You never had mpa2. Then why do you have this anti shaving thing?
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Franck, Verbal Kint, TheSenator, and all others with questions are hereby invited to come to my office (bring a PHP and SQL expert if you dont know it yourself) and get full access to the source code to see for yourself how it is built - and stop being so childish and accuse top notch people of things with unsubstantiated rubbish.
This is business, not a kindergarden, and you should treat people like you want to be treated yourself. This is ridiculus. Jayman stood up and said what is right here and you should listen to him and other well respected program owners alike. If you dont take my invitation serious, then you are not serious yourself. Call me anytime to schedule it all. We are located in Los Angeles. Looking forward to seeing you all here. Oystein |
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one thing i don't understand is if there was a shaving feature in mpa2 then the tables in sql would be named mpa2_ etc.
so the php removal tool would have to alter the mpa2_* stuff. it would not be altering mpa3_* unless there was some sort of shaving feature in mpa3. that is unless of course you just decided in mpa2 to plan ahead and call everything mpa3. |
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Im not saying they shave... I just wonder why that code is there if they never had mpa2 and there is no shaving module in mpa3. Looks like nobody is gonna answer that. |
Oysten, possible you are right but comments like "offesting webmaster fraud" put MPA back to old status in the eyes of many webmasters. What would be really smart is to come up with a straight attitude and admit you were aware of what you were doing and you have regretted it.
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This reminds me of a story called "Family Doctor". A middle-aged couple and their teenage daughter all go to the same doctor. 2hp |
Jake: You think i have something to benefit by accusing you of shaving?
I didn't say or imply you guys shaved. I just found that link VERY interesting and thought i'd share it... if there is nothing wrong with it, then you guys have nothing to worry about. the fact that you guys took the page down though, probably made it look worse then what it was. :2 cents: |
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Why would you have posted this thread if you didn't want to cause harm? Releasing something like this to the wonderful assuming folks of GFY was only going to lead to problems. You should have known that. Actions like this only show how you don't think before you act. |
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Know it all, whiny, crybaby, punk ass 19 year old kids should keep their mouths shut and their eyes and ears open. You starting this thread has caused you more long term damage than you will ever know. |
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if you havn't noticed, i don't give a fuck what people think about me... unlike most of you cowards, i will say what is on my mind... regardless of bullshit board politics so go fuck yourself baddog :thumbsup |
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Explains why Julia Blue was such a success :1orglaugh |
I have to wonder why you thought send me that link was going to work in your favor.
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MPA seems like a very solid product and the customers that I have spoken to that use them are very happy with the software and support.
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Really? How is that? Zero monetary investment and it makes money. How much did you spend to make no money? |
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If a program knew it had a shave feature, they obviously thought about what could be the outcome years later and the possible allegations ... no ? |
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I try to not make presumptions about the thought processes of others. |
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MPA3 is a great software, and I dont see anybody here question that. People are questioning the integrity of the people behind it. |
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Not sure if this is correct or not, but I think when a MP3 is installed, what is done is first copying or renaming ALL old tables into new tables. From Mpa2 to Mpa3
To speed up that process, you first do the rename / copy part, verify data is handled correct and THEN you "drop unused" fields. Setup process is usually done through scripts, like the SQL script (did not see the code, was 404), since they had a lot of old customers wanted to upgrade, and most likely a lot of new customers because of the version update, then I could suspect they delay the "boring part", wich is writing new install scripts. As they would already have a install script for Mpa2, and they already have the database converter script it is most likely a lot faster setting up the DB for Mpa2 and then do the upgrade to Mpa3. Then you dont need "2 sets of install scripts", 2 sets of install scripts is also bad, especially after a version update since you need to change same data 2 places, giving higher riscs for errors whenever a bug is detected. I do have a server with a Mpa3 copy installed, no longer active, as a programmer I ofcourse spend a lot of time going through all the files (many are encoded though) and also spend alot of time going through the database structure, and there was absolutely nothing showing evidence of any kind of shaving mechanism build into mpa3. Oystein your office is a long way away from Denmark, can you just E-mail me the full source instead?? :pimp |
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