Trials or No Trials? Resellers and Sposors opinions wanted!

[Azlord]

Well, I have been seen threads about trials, limted trials etc. What's the general vote? Do you like trials, are they making you more money? Or is it just a easy way for surfers to get all your content?

[vvq]

programs these days need trials. unless you're offering extremely good solo girl sites, or other very very very micro niche specific type sites.

[madawgz]

trials always work the best!

[rick-e]

Originally Posted by madawgz

trials always work the best!

you got 90+ posts a day

[Sosa]

as an affiliate I try not to push sponsors that have trials and only pay $2-3 on that trial. I have seen most of thsoe not convert into a rebill so I make a whole $2-3... I prefer the 50/60 or 60/60 revshare even if it is trial or a full month sale.

[Azlord]

Originally Posted by Sosa

as an affiliate I try not to push sponsors that have trials and only pay $2-3 on that trial. I have seen most of thsoe not convert into a rebill so I make a whole $2-3... I prefer the 50/60 or 60/60 revshare even if it is trial or a full month sale.

So you like the trials only if it's 50% of the full membership, or PPS perhaps?

Thanks for the input. Keep it coming ;-)

[Far-L]

We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.

[Azlord]

Originally Posted by Far-L

We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.

Are your multiple daily updates all exclusive shit? Or are you mixing exclusive and non-exclusive throughout the week?

Thanks for the comment.

[Pornwolf]

Originally Posted by Far-L

We do trials and convert the traffic consistently between 28% and 35% of the time overall - our processor DHD tells us we have the best conversions of all the sites using their gateway. That is fact - not typical sponsor hype.

Surfers can't steal our movie content - our proprietary video security has even earned respect on hacker boards... but I am not sure that is the reason for our conversions or retention. I chalk it up more so to our multiple daily updates and customer service.

Very interesting Far-L. I can't even imagine the amount of Amateur surfers you have typing in your site daily. It must be huge.

[Karupted Charles]

Originally Posted by vvq

programs these days need trials. unless you're offering extremely good solo girl sites, or other very very very micro niche specific type sites.

So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


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[RRRED]

Originally Posted by SPW Guru

So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


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OMG that is the BEST post of all time!!!

[tyler.]

trials for sure

[SiMpLe]

Originally Posted by SPW Guru

So not true. We do not, have not and will not offer trials. With the amount of content we offer we are not worried about site rippers believe me. Its plain and simple psychology.


The male body does not have enough blood to think with both its heads at the same time. Horny guys surf around and find a girl they just have to see more of. They eventually decide to dig in the wallet and pay to get what they want.

Once inside they jerk off and life is grand. The blood then leaves the penis and flows back to the brain. They realize they just paid for what they could get for free and know if they cancel now they only get charged a few dollars.

Now comes the no trial option. They are still so horny they need to see the girl and they overcome the $30 instead of $3 because it?s what they want when the dick is in control. They get in jerk off and feel bad after just like the trial. However they already paid for 30 days so they don?t cancel right away. Instead a week/day goes buy and sure enough they get horny again. They think hmm I just paid for this site let me surf around. Now they find 10 more models they love they jerk off and are happy again. More time passes and they still surf around. Now they realize what they bought and they don?t feel ripped off anymore. They are excited about the updates and can?t wait to get home to the computer. Yet again there is more to enjoy and they are hooked.

Think of it this way. A trial is a one night stand. When you meet her in the club you end up paying for drinks dinners and all sorts of shit that?s when you?re willing to open the wallet before you get what you want. Once you bang the bitch you really don?t ever want to see her again and you fell a bit dirty for sleeping with such a whore.

A membership is like a marriage yeah you hate to pay the dues but you got a great piece of ass you can get when you want it and you?re comfortable with what you know.


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Can I contract you out for my boxcover copy

[Pornwolf]

My highest converting sites has no trials @ a $29.95 a month pricepoint. It crushes the trial having sites from most sponsors. CRUSHES THEM.

[Matt_WildCash]

Trials = good conversions and average recurring
Full memberships only = bad conversions but great recurring

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Very interesting Far-L. I can't even imagine the amount of Amateur surfers you have typing in your site daily. It must be huge.

Actually it is good but by no means huge. We really don't have many webmasters now but we were also the number one converting and retaining site in our CE days when there were 15000 plus webmasters throwing traffic at us.

We do well off our brand recognition for type-in traffic generated by Spice Channel which promotes our brand, our dvd advertising, etc. However, If I told you what our self generated type-in converted at people would think I was full of hype which we all know is spelled "CRAP" backwards.

[Blazing]

We DO NOT offer trials and our top converting sites convert all day long at 1:500 on full monly signups.

IMHO.. if the Full Monthly transactions convert at better than 1:700 from ALL traffic.. ( the good, the bad and the ugly ) then there isnt any need for a trial!!

Come check us out..

WWW.BLAZINGBUCKS.COM

[beemk]

pps = trials
revshare = full joins

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

My highest converting sites has no trials @ a $29.95 a month pricepoint. It crushes the trial having sites from most sponsors. CRUSHES THEM.

i promote a site that does the exact same. wonder if its the same site, its the same price. if they went to trials i would probably make a lot less $ on revshare.

[Karupted Charles]

Originally Posted by beemk

pps = trials
revshare = full joins


i promote a site that does the exact same. wonder if its the same site, its the same price. if they went to trials i would probably make a lot less $ on revshare.

We all know its us just call a spade a spade

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Azlord

Are your multiple daily updates all exclusive shit? Or are you mixing exclusive and non-exclusive throughout the week?

Thanks for the comment.

All our stuff is completely exclusive. We sit on over 23 years of amateur content - Homegrown Video was literally the first distributor of "homemade porn".

But we just add the old stuff for the fans that have literally been with us for over 20 years and who want to see their old faves in un-cut remastered glory... Now we also have award winning series like "Deepthroat Virgins", "Natural Bush", "Amateur Anal Attempts" "Creampie Club" "Horny Over 40" "College Student Bodies" "Cherries" (barely legal) "Sex Kittens" (barely legal lez) "Eye Contact" (pov bj) "Latina Cherries" "Housewives Unleashed" "Horny Over 40", and a few more...

We put out 6 to 8 titles per month with 5 to 6 scenes per 90min running time. Most of these are long running series that are also very deep in content.

I really don't know any other company that comes close in this regard so that is obviously a selling point.

[SCORE Ralph]

What beemk said... we offer trials, monthly, and 3 month subs. Of course, trials reel in the most subs, 3 months bring in the most $ per transaction, but monthly subs make the most $ per sub + rebills.

[RRRED]

Originally Posted by aspwm

What beemk said... we offer trials, monthly, and 3 month subs. Of course, trials reel in the most subs, 3 months bring in the most $ per transaction, but monthly subs make the most $ per sub + rebills.

Ralph I miss you!!!

[Azlord]

Originally Posted by Far-L

All our stuff is completely exclusive. We sit on over 23 years of amateur content - Homegrown Video was literally the first distributor of "homemade porn".

But we just add the old stuff for the fans that have literally been with us for over 20 years and who want to see their old faves in un-cut remastered glory... Now we also have award winning series like "Deepthroat Virgins", "Natural Bush", "Amateur Anal Attempts" "Creampie Club" "Horny Over 40" "College Student Bodies" "Cherries" (barely legal) "Sex Kittens" (barely legal lez) "Eye Contact" (pov bj) "Latina Cherries" "Housewives Unleashed" "Horny Over 40", and a few more...

We put out 6 to 8 titles per month with 5 to 6 scenes per 90min running time. Most of these are long running series that are also very deep in content.

I really don't know any other company that comes close in this regard so that is obviously a selling point.

Thanks for the comments. I am soaking in as much knowledge as I can from this thread.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Azlord

Thanks for the comments. I am soaking in as much knowledge as I can from this thread.

Well... unfortunately it is what I am not saying in this thread that is probably the most telling... you only see hints about what our retention is like.

But if you knew how long we held off from offering recurring rev to webmasters that would give you a better idea...

[Paparazzi]

Originally Posted by beemk

pps = trials
revshare = full joins

I agree

[bigdog]

I prefer trials, trials usally convert way better