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Fred Quimby · 04-20-2006, 07:18 AM

Mexico demands humane treatment for its citizens who migrate to the U.S., regardless of their legal status, but Mexico provides no protections for migrants on its own soil and just shoots them onsite.

The level of brutality Central American migrants face in Mexico was apparent Monday, when police conducting a raid for undocumented migrants near a rail yard outside Mexico City shot to death a local man, apparently because his dark skin and work clothes made officers think he was a migrant.

Virginia Sanchez, who lives near the railroad tracks that carry Central Americans north to the U.S. border, said such shootings in Tultitlan are common.

''At night, you hear the gunshots, and it's the judiciales [state police] chasing and killing the migrants,'' she said. ''It's not fair to kill these people. It's not fair in the United States and it's not fair here.''

?In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that:

Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.
Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.
Immigrants are denied equal employment rights.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.
Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities.
Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process."

If mexico can shoot illegals, why cant we?

Mr Dickovitch · 04-20-2006, 07:20 AM

Mexico is a piece of shit.

All these Mexican protests were organized by all the Mexican media companies that profit from people who can't speak English. All the Mexican TV and Radio stations won't make money anymore if people in the US all speak English so they organized these 'protests' to fill their pockets with more money.

Fuck Mexico! If their country sucks so bad they should go protest there. Unfortunately though they can't do that because they'd be shot in the head because Mexico is a giant piece of shit.

CherryLipsRosa · 04-20-2006, 07:25 AM

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Matt 26z · 04-20-2006, 07:27 AM

I think we should be fair to the Mexicans. We will enact THEIR immigration policy here in the US!

Sad thing is, that list isn't even illegal immigrants. That's how they treat their LEGAL immigrants!

What goes around comes around!

Antonio · 04-20-2006, 07:29 AM

lol, why do you even compare the two, as far as human rights are concerned there should be a difference b/n a third World country and a developed country

Matt 26z · 04-20-2006, 07:34 AM

Oh, poor Mexico. Just a little 3rd world country. SO THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO FUCK PEOPLE OVER!

Seriously, the people of Mexico need to do something about their leaders. They live in a free democracy though, so they should have done that by now. Why do they continue to elect people into power who for the last centry have driven the country into the toilet? Somebody needs to step up down there and do what's best for Mexico.

KingK7 · 04-20-2006, 07:38 AM

Aye caramba!

The Duck · 04-20-2006, 07:43 AM

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Egomancer · 04-20-2006, 07:48 AM

Well, US should apply to the mexicam immigrants the same treatment Mexico does apply to their immigrants.

I think this will solve the problem!

Egomancer

CDSmith · 04-20-2006, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

lol, why do you even compare the two, as far as human rights are concerned there should be a difference b/n a third World country and a developed country

Mexico is a 3rd world country now?

KRL · 04-20-2006, 08:04 AM

Mexico is corrupt and elitist run. That's the main problem. You have 2 classes of super rich and super poor and very little in between.

Yesterday's immigration raids in the US of Iffco Systems in 9 states which manufactures all the wood crates and pallets you see everywhere to move goods is great example of the government making matters worse. Over 1000 people were arrested along with 7 company execs. Over half their employees were using fake ss #'s.

So what does that do? I think its going to really piss off a lot of people and that now the May 1 protests will go forward. They were thinking not to do it, but with hardcore crackdowns I'm sure its going to push it forward.

If you're going to do something, then get the border managed and secured properly first. What good does it do to arrest 1000 people that you're just going to dump over the border who will be able to come right back?

Just more political scamming to make the public think the govt is doing something to fix a broken system. What a waste of money and resources.

1/2 thought out and executed plans always fail.

Fred Quimby · 04-20-2006, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

I think its going to really piss off a lot of people and that now the May 1 protests will go forward. They were thinking not to do it, but with hardcore crackdowns I'm sure its going to push it forward.

such protests will make immigrants look anti-American, annoy the public and alienate lawmakers who are wavering about how to reshape U.S. immigration policy. They worry, too, that thousands will get fired.

Encouraging students to skip school "just adds fuel to the argument that we don't care about our children's education," said Jose Lagos, a community organizer with Honduran Unity in Miami

Manowar · 04-20-2006, 08:25 AM

Damn, those fuckers

Matt 26z · 04-20-2006, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Mexico is corrupt and elitist run. That's the main problem. You have 2 classes of super rich and super poor and very little in between.

Which is exactly why the people of Mexico need to wake the fuck up and change things. Instead of marching in OUR streets, they should all head back to Mexico and revolt.

Easier said than done, but they don't have anything to lose at this point. Why doesn't the Mexican media that pretty much organized the marches here rile people up to overthrow the Mexican government at all levels?

Living right next to us, Mexico should NOT look the way it does. Their leaders are seriously fucking them over.

CyberHustler · 04-20-2006, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Mexico is corrupt and elitist run. That's the main problem. You have 2 classes of super rich and super poor and very little in between.

Sounds familiar for some reason...

Tanker · 04-20-2006, 08:56 AM

I agree they should all march on the Mexican government there are literally millions and millions of them that want a better life surely they can all gather the same as they are able to do in the states.

Lets pay for them all to fly back to Mexico city and send them with all the protesting gear they need! Including lots of press to watch it all take place

Vicente Fox wants a solution lets send him one!

CyberHustler · 04-20-2006, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker

I agree they should all march on the Mexican government there are literally millions and millions of them that want a better life surely they can all gather the same as they are able to do in the states.

Lets pay for them all to fly back to Mexico city and send them with all the protesting gear they need! Including lots of press to watch it all take place

Vicente Fox wants a solution lets send him one!

you pay... i aint payin'

dynastoned · 04-20-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Mexico is corrupt and elitist run. That's the main problem. You have 2 classes of super rich and super poor and very little in between.

Yesterday's immigration raids in the US of Iffco Systems in 9 states which manufactures all the wood crates and pallets you see everywhere to move goods is great example of the government making matters worse. Over 1000 people were arrested along with 7 company execs. Over half their employees were using fake ss #'s.

So what does that do? I think its going to really piss off a lot of people and that now the May 1 protests will go forward. They were thinking not to do it, but with hardcore crackdowns I'm sure its going to push it forward.

If you're going to do something, then get the border managed and secured properly first. What good does it do to arrest 1000 people that you're just going to dump over the border who will be able to come right back?

Just more political scamming to make the public think the govt is doing something to fix a broken system. What a waste of money and resources.

1/2 thought out and executed plans always fail.

BigCashCrew · 04-20-2006, 03:20 PM

I know a guy who just got married and was in Mexico building houses for Habitat for humanity. He and his wife were arrested for something. She was released on 20k and he stayed in prison for 2 years. He had to wait 1 year for a trial. He finally got out after they paid a ton of money. The shitty thing is his wife filed for divorce while he was in prison. He said it was hell and they treated him like total shit.

Fred Quimby · 04-20-2006, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

You have 2 classes of super rich and super poor and very little in between.

So wait, the super rich mexicans are NOT sneaking into the US?

CDSmith · 04-20-2006, 04:18 PM

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escorpio · 04-20-2006, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

If mexico can shoot illegals, why cant we?

Because it's wrong.

L0rdJuni0r · 04-20-2006, 04:41 PM

i dont even feel like getting into this bullshit again... i dont even know why i clicked on this stupid thread.

CDSmith · 04-20-2006, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio

Because it's wrong.

Does Mexico know that?

escorpio · 04-20-2006, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Does Mexico know that?

Yes. It is not a matter of policy to shoot illegal immigrants. You are pointing to an incident and acting as if the entire nation pulled the trigger.

CDSmith · 04-20-2006, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio

Yes. It is not a matter of policy to shoot illegal immigrants. You are pointing to an incident and acting as if the entire nation pulled the trigger.

Sometimes when people say "Mexico" they are referring to their government.

escorpio · 04-20-2006, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Sometimes when people say "Mexico" they are referring to their government.

An individual commited the act, not the government. The government does not sanction the murder of immigrants.

Hope that answers your question.

Barefootsies · 04-21-2006, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BuySexProducts

Sounds familiar for some reason...

elitetec · 04-21-2006, 10:14 AM

killing people is ...

gimo33 · 04-21-2006, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCashCrew

I know a guy who just got married and was in Mexico building houses for Habitat for humanity. He and his wife were arrested for something. She was released on 20k and he stayed in prison for 2 years. He had to wait 1 year for a trial. He finally got out after they paid a ton of money. The shitty thing is his wife filed for divorce while he was in prison. He said it was hell and they treated him like total shit.

i feel sorry for him.

CDSmith · 04-21-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio

An individual commited the act, not the government. The government does not sanction the murder of immigrants.

Hope that answers your question.

I read his post a little differently, sorry.

Quote:

The level of brutality Central American migrants face in Mexico was apparent Monday, when police conducting a raid for undocumented migrants near a rail yard outside Mexico City shot to death a local man, apparently because his dark skin and work clothes made officers think he was a migrant.

Police work for the government.

I hope this answers your question.

escorpio · 04-21-2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

I read his post a little differently, sorry.

Police work for the government.

I hope this answers your question.

The police department is made up of individuals. An individual violated policy.

Libertine · 04-21-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Quimby

Mexico demands humane treatment for its citizens who migrate to the U.S., regardless of their legal status, but Mexico provides no protections for migrants on its own soil and just shoots them onsite.

The level of brutality Central American migrants face in Mexico was apparent Monday, when police conducting a raid for undocumented migrants near a rail yard outside Mexico City shot to death a local man, apparently because his dark skin and work clothes made officers think he was a migrant.

Virginia Sanchez, who lives near the railroad tracks that carry Central Americans north to the U.S. border, said such shootings in Tultitlan are common.

''At night, you hear the gunshots, and it's the judiciales [state police] chasing and killing the migrants,'' she said. ''It's not fair to kill these people. It's not fair in the United States and it's not fair here.''

?In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that:

Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.
Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.
Immigrants are denied equal employment rights.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.
Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.
Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities.
Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process."

If mexico can shoot illegals, why cant we?

Are you seriously trying to argue that people who leave Mexico should be held responsible for the actions of the government of the very country they are trying to get out of? What sort of absurd logic is that?

Libertine · 04-21-2006, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith

Police work for the government.

I hope this answers your question.

So when Rodney King got his ass kicked, that was US government policy?

04-20-2006, 07:18 AM	#1
Fred Quimby Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 5,430	Lets Talk about killing illegal immigrants in MEXICO Mexico demands humane treatment for its citizens who migrate to the U.S., regardless of their legal status, but Mexico provides no protections for migrants on its own soil and just shoots them onsite. The level of brutality Central American migrants face in Mexico was apparent Monday, when police conducting a raid for undocumented migrants near a rail yard outside Mexico City shot to death a local man, apparently because his dark skin and work clothes made officers think he was a migrant. Virginia Sanchez, who lives near the railroad tracks that carry Central Americans north to the U.S. border, said such shootings in Tultitlan are common. ''At night, you hear the gunshots, and it's the judiciales [state police] chasing and killing the migrants,'' she said. ''It's not fair to kill these people. It's not fair in the United States and it's not fair here.'' ?In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that: Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse. Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights. Immigrants are denied equal employment rights. Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens. Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service. Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy. Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities. Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process." If mexico can shoot illegals, why cant we? __________________

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Mr Dickovitch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,070	Mexico is a piece of shit. All these Mexican protests were organized by all the Mexican media companies that profit from people who can't speak English. All the Mexican TV and Radio stations won't make money anymore if people in the US all speak English so they organized these 'protests' to fill their pockets with more money. Fuck Mexico! If their country sucks so bad they should go protest there. Unfortunately though they can't do that because they'd be shot in the head because Mexico is a giant piece of shit.

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I think we should be fair to the Mexicans. We will enact THEIR immigration policy here in the US! Sad thing is, that list isn't even illegal immigrants. That's how they treat their LEGAL immigrants! What goes around comes around!

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Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	lol, why do you even compare the two, as far as human rights are concerned there should be a difference b/n a third World country and a developed country

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	Oh, poor Mexico. Just a little 3rd world country. SO THAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO FUCK PEOPLE OVER! Seriously, the people of Mexico need to do something about their leaders. They live in a free democracy though, so they should have done that by now. Why do they continue to elect people into power who for the last centry have driven the country into the toilet? Somebody needs to step up down there and do what's best for Mexico.

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