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Barefootsies 04-28-2006 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bizarredollars
Never had any problems with Verotel, always pay on time.. support could be better, but no major issues.

True dat. But on the whole, they pay when they say, and no complaints from the customers.

:thumbsup

Bryan Ex 04-28-2006 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Definately best to chat with Verotel direct on this before doing anything

I have tried... but it seems nobody is home right now at Verotel. I'm trying to decide between incorporating myself and going with CCBillEU or using Verotel and letting them do it given costs are almost the same. So far I've had all my questions answered from CCBill the first day I wrote to them but I'm still digging through message boards to get my answers on Verotel.

Anyone know how they manage to get around the EU presence stipulation of providing EU ID?

Liquid Minds 04-28-2006 04:34 AM

Hi,
Just reading this thread.
Thanks for the good remarks and positive feedback on our company. :thumbsup
I see there are some questions though.

To give some short answers:
-Yes, we can bill for canadian companies.
-It's no problem also if you already use another processor.
-Yes, we can be integrated with NATS or MPA3.

If anybody has any specific questions just let me know and hit me up on icq or send me an e-mail [email protected]

Liquid Minds 04-28-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Ex
I have tried... but it seems nobody is home right now at Verotel. I'm trying to decide between incorporating myself and going with CCBillEU or using Verotel and letting them do it given costs are almost the same. So far I've had all my questions answered from CCBill the first day I wrote to them but I'm still digging through message boards to get my answers on Verotel.

Anyone know how they manage to get around the EU presence stipulation of providing EU ID?


Hi Bryan hit me up on icq and I'll give you some answers.
(the message board is not really active). I'm much quicker. :)

Barefootsies 04-28-2006 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Ex
I have tried... but it seems nobody is home right now at Verotel. I'm trying to decide between incorporating myself and going with CCBillEU or using Verotel and letting them do it given costs are almost the same. So far I've had all my questions answered from CCBill the first day I wrote to them but I'm still digging through message boards to get my answers on Verotel.

Anyone know how they manage to get around the EU presence stipulation of providing EU ID?

If you've tried their phone already, you may want to try their live chat. I prefer not talking on the phone, and the Dutchies speak or slaughter English with their accent to the point I prefer the live chat option.

E-mail support is a bit... :error

So I would try one of the other two options. Phone, or live chat.

:2 cents:

Liquid Minds 04-28-2006 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej_E4A
was thinking about it, but the initial fee is insane....i mean its not like we are trying to get the only merchant account possible, just another method....not worth it at this point in time...
:2 cents:


Hi Mark,

You know I'm trying to get the fee lowered for you guys. :winkwink:

Liquid Minds 04-28-2006 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan Ex
Cool... thanks Dcat, but that also raises two more questions. Does the 1500 bucks setup cover that or am I looking at additional costs as well AND will I be looking at annual costs for corporate compliance in addition to the Visa charges? I'm not trying to nickle & dime my business operations but do need to decide how to best set up billing for the long term. I'd hate to pay the Verotel set up fee only to find out later I still had to incorporate when I could do the same with CCBill for half the cost and be in the country of my choosing.

Hmmm... why does Verotel charge twice what others do for Visa anyway?

Hi,
For a Verotel Pro account there's a one time fee of 1500,- dollar and a weekly fee of 7 dollar 50 cent. (that fee is for the yearly Mastercard registration but we collect it weekly).


If an Api needs to be installed (your choice and not neccessary) than there's a one time fee for that also).

Further there are noo costs.

Tuga 04-28-2006 04:53 AM

Yes I use them.

Liquid Minds 04-28-2006 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra
care to elaborate on that? the issue of using the 'stichting' foundation that Verotel creates for you w/ other NL-based business interests just came up yesterday between a friend and myself... interested to here any caveats or warnings from your experience..!


It depends on the situation if you can use it for another billing compnay or not. So if you want to know your specific details, just let me know.

Bansheelinks 04-28-2006 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Minds

To give some short answers:
-Yes, we can bill for canadian companies.
-It's no problem also if you already use another processor.
-Yes, we can be integrated with NATS or MPA3.

What are you talking about? No problem? VISA and MC rules stipulate you may not use multiple processors for multiple regions. If you are, say, with CCBill in the US region, you are not supposed to use Verotel as well, which is of the EU region. Mind clarifying your statement above, Danny?

Fetish 04-28-2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
You are "almost" correct and agree on the cross-border rules - tho it's a matter of checking small print and establishing the scenario.

A workaround is easy and 100% in keeping with any card company rules.

What is the workaround?

artman 04-28-2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish
What is the workaround?

signing over your domain to them

Webby 04-28-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish
What is the workaround?

Just have corps in different jurisdictions you want to do business in. For processing purposes there are only two relevant banking regions - EU and US.

Tho.. have said before, it's best chatting direct to Verotel to check what they can offer and as solutions. Tell em the problem, - ask for the solution :thumbsup

Fetish 04-28-2006 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Just have corps in different jurisdictions you want to do business in. For processing purposes there are only two relevant banking regions - EU and US.

Tho.. have said before, it's best chatting direct to Verotel to check what they can offer and as solutions. Tell em the problem, - ask for the solution :thumbsup

What if you have a US corp with a US merchant account and processor and an EU corp for an EU merchant account cascading on the same sites. That does not violate the rules?

Webby 04-28-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish
What if you have a US corp with a US merchant account and processor and an EU corp for an EU merchant account cascading on the same sites. That does not violate the rules?

To be honest, I've never actually read any "rules" that say any individual site must have processors from the same banking region. Other folks may wish to comment on this.

Yes, we have sites where processors are from differing banking regions and on the same site, but they comply with the basic requirements of having a "presence" in the relevant banking region and never had any problems and our main base is not even in any of these banking regions. However, the corp structure is in place to cover any trading activity in whatever regions as needed.

Dunno why.. but any "site" could be "managed" or shared by several corps and it's up to these corps to decided how to conduct their business - not visa.

dcortez 04-28-2006 10:56 AM

We have been using Verotel for many years and they have never let us down.

Payments are ALWAYS on time and their multi-currency options allow us to effectively reach our international markets.

Webby 04-28-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dcortez
We have been using Verotel for many years and they have never let us down.

Payments are ALWAYS on time and their multi-currency options allow us to effectively reach our international markets.

Agree Dino! :thumbsup

Bryan Ex 04-28-2006 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Minds
If anybody has any specific questions just let me know and hit me up on icq or send me an e-mail [email protected]

Danny's da man! Pretty much all my questions have been answered with regards to Verotel and I'm good to go. I will no longer need to host free pay sites...LOL


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